MAGA and die hard Trump supporters..... The difference

[YoursTruly]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

 

[westwall]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

Come back in a year.

 

[martybegan]

Come back in a year.

The old "demand perfection right now or whatever you are trying to do is a failure" trope.

 

[Mac1958]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

There's definitely a group of influencers and politicians who are in various degrees of giving up on him, and it's for the reasons you mention. If enough influencers jump on board (and they definitely do influence), this will get more interesting.

They can see that he latched on to MAGA purely for his own use. But there may be enough energy to keep MAGA going without him if they get their way.

The mindless rubes who are constantly having to spin and make excuses for him? They'll take longer, as we'll see on this board.

 

[YoursTruly]

The old "demand perfection right now or whatever you are trying to do is a failure" trope.

I don't think anyone demands perfection. But dang it. There's just so many flip flops and about faces from Trump. And it's not even been a year.

 

[martybegan]

There's definitely a group of influencers and politicians who are in various degrees of giving up on him, and it's for the reasons you mention. If enough influencers jump on board (and they definitely do influence), this will get more interesting.

They can see that he latched on to MAGA purely for his own use. But there may be enough energy to keep MAGA going without him if they get their way.

The mindless rubes who are constantly having to spin and make excuses for him? They'll take longer, as we'll see on this board.

LOL, if a bunch of Jew haters decide to jump ship I'm sure progressives have plenty of room for them on their own poop deck.

 

[martybegan]

I don't think anyone demands perfection. But dang it. There's just so many flip flops and about faces from Trump. And it's not even been a year.

Bullshit, it's the standard lefty trope we see over and over again.

 

[YoursTruly]

LOL, if a bunch of Jew haters decide to jump ship I'm sure progressives have plenty of room for them on their own poop deck.

^^^^ Trying to make out like if you don't support Trump, then you must be a democrat/progressive.

Bro, Trump is leaning way more left than MAGA. All those things I listed in the OP, aren't hoaxes. They're real. Whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[YoursTruly]

Come back in a year.

For what? To add more left leaning/socialist stuff to Trumps list?

 

[martybegan]

^^^^ Trying to make out like if you don't support Trump, then you must be a democrat/progressive.

Bro, Trump is leaning way more left than MAGA. All those things I listed in the OP, aren't hoaxes. They're real. Whether you want to admit it or not.

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Once again thinking that everything has to line up perfectly or the only solution is to vote for the other guy, even if you disagree with the other guy on 80% of the shit they believe in.

Are you one of those morons that denies the binary nature of our elections, especially at the federal level?

 

[BackAgain]

I don't think anyone demands perfection. But dang it. There's just so many flip flops and about faces from Trump. And it's not even been a year.

 

[westwall]

For what? To add more left leaning/socialist stuff to Trumps list?

To see what is really happening. Trump is being undermined from all directions. It takes time to get rid of the deep state traitors.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The 30 or so percent approval rating that he's managed to salvage likely reflects the die hards.

I can't imagine it going any lower than that but who knows.

Of course, when I say say ''die hards,'' I'm referencing these types...

 

[g5000]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

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Um...no.

You all voted for a traitor who attempted to overthrow our democracy.

It does not get more diehard than that.

You can't try to distance yourself from that now that you are finally seeing your massive mistake.

Sorry.

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[Billiejeens]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

We? ???????

 

[g5000]

We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic.

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[Billiejeens]

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Um...no.

You all voted for a traitor who attempted to overthrow our democracy.

It does not get more diehard than that.

You can't try to distance yourself from that now that you are finally seeing your massive mistake.

Sorry.

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Your entire J6 narrative has completely fallen apart.
You must be the last one to understand that.

 

[martybegan]

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Um...no.

You all voted for a traitor who attempted to overthrow our democracy.

It does not get more diehard than that.

You can't try to distance yourself from that now that you are finally seeing your massive mistake.

Sorry.

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And yet the 2025 midterm elections happened as they happened.

You hyperbole spewing sack of shit.

 

[YoursTruly]

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Admittedly, It seems like that. The GOP has become laughable. And not at all what MAGA voters wanted out of this administration and congress.

 

[martybegan]

Admittedly, It seems like that. The GOP has become laughable. And not at all what MAGA voters wanted out of this administration and congress.