Lois Lerner Admits-2010 She Was Told To Target Conservative Groups

[Geaux4it]

Phony scandal.

As covered on Hannity and the video here as well

-Geaux

Hannity: Lois Lerner Contradicts 'Rogue Agents in Cincinnati' Excuse for IRS Scandal


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[JoeB131]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

 

[asterism]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

There is a Constitutional right to equal protection of the laws though.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The political bias displayed in applying this scrutiny violates that clause.

 

[The Rabbi]

That phony scandal just wont die, will it?
What happens when we find out Valerie Jarrett cooked this one up?

 

[JoeB131]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

There is a Constitutional right to equal protection of the laws though.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The political bias displayed in applying this scrutiny violates that clause.

None of which was done here.

The Teabagging groups were trying to perpetrate frauds. They were claiming to be social welfare agencies when in fact they were gearing up to work in elections.

Because they wanted to keep the identities of their donors secret, which is a big no-no in tax law.

 

[JoeB131]

That phony scandal just wont die, will it?
What happens when we find out Valerie Jarrett cooked this one up?

Again, the only people who care don't count.

You lost the election.

 

[The Rabbi]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

There is a Constitutional right to equal protection of the laws though.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The political bias displayed in applying this scrutiny violates that clause.

None of which was done here.

The Teabagging groups were trying to perpetrate frauds. They were claiming to be social welfare agencies when in fact they were gearing up to work in elections.

Because they wanted to keep the identities of their donors secret, which is a big no-no in tax law.

You keep repeating this like it's true. It isn't.

 

[depotoo]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

yeah, they were so fraudulent, none got denied, just held for a year or so.

 

[depotoo]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

There is a Constitutional right to equal protection of the laws though.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The political bias displayed in applying this scrutiny violates that clause.

None of which was done here.

The Teabagging groups were trying to perpetrate frauds. They were claiming to be social welfare agencies when in fact they were gearing up to work in elections.

Because they wanted to keep the identities of their donors secret, which is a big no-no in tax law.

IF you think that is true then you must think it true of Organizing for America,

 

[The Rabbi]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

yeah, they were so fraudulent, none got denied, just held for a year or so.

Facts are to Joe what kryptonite is to Superman.

 

[asterism]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

There is a Constitutional right to equal protection of the laws though.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The political bias displayed in applying this scrutiny violates that clause.

None of which was done here.

The Teabagging groups were trying to perpetrate frauds. They were claiming to be social welfare agencies when in fact they were gearing up to work in elections.

Because they wanted to keep the identities of their donors secret, which is a big no-no in tax law.

It's perfectly acceptable, which is why the 501c(4) tax exemption was eventually granted to almost all of these groups. The bias and violation of the equal protection clause was the selective scrutiny based on names alone, the unlawful disclosure of application information, and the lengthy delays imposed as a tools to suppress operations.

 

[depotoo]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

yeah, they were so fraudulent, none got denied, just held for a year or so.

Facts are to Joe what kryptonite is to Superman.

you would think embarassment would set in at some time.

 

[The Rabbi]

yeah, they were so fraudulent, none got denied, just held for a year or so.

Facts are to Joe what kryptonite is to Superman.

you would think embarassment would set in at some time.

You need a level of intellect and shame to experience embarrassment.

 

[g5000]

Exactly where in the OP video is Lois Lerner saying she has been ordered to target conservative groups?

She doesn't.

The title of this topic is a lie, which makes THAT is a phony scandal.

Phony scandal.

Yep.

 

[Avatar4321]

yeah, they were so fraudulent, none got denied, just held for a year or so.

Facts are to Joe what kryptonite is to Superman.

you would think embarassment would set in at some time.

For embarassment to set in, one has to be humble enough to accept reality

 

[OriginalShroom]

Remember way back when this scandal first broke and the left tried to equate it the IRS investigation of the NAACP, if they broke the law at one of their conventions.

That meme got dropped.

Then they tried to claim that the six liberal groups that were targeted by the IRS proved there was nothing going on.. Except that the Liberal groups got their approvals in weeks instead of the years some have taken.

Now it's this that JoeB is trying to push. What a joke. It won't last long.

 

[The Rabbi]

Exactly where in the OP video is Lois Lerner saying she has been ordered to target conservative groups?

She doesn't.

The title of this topic is a lie, which makes THAT is a phony scandal.

Phony scandal.

Yep.

She admits the scrutiny was 1) coming from higher levels in the IRS, not from low level people in Cincinnatti, 2) politically motivated.
That means the administration's account of this was a lie.
That means the Maryland representative who said he had solved the problem was lying.
That means this administration is responsible for politicizing the IRS and FEC, and who knows who else.
That means the administration has no respect for the rule of law, specifically the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United.

If that isn't a scandal to you you're dead from the neck up.

 

[g5000]

A lot of smoke in this topic to cover up the fact the woman does not say in the video she has been ordered to target right wing groups.

That the video was posted as evidence of such demonstrates that some people are on some very powerful hallucinatory drugs. They are hearing things.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Not really.

She just pointed out that Citizens United decision allowed this kind of fraud, and the FEC was powerless to stop it unless the IRS caught the fraud.

You guys are just upset the IRS caught the fraud.

YOu know, there isn't a constitutational right to a tax exemption, right?

There is a Constitutional right to equal protection of the laws though.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.​

The political bias displayed in applying this scrutiny violates that clause.

The equal protection clause only applies to homosexual "marriages" in lib-land.

 

[g5000]

We have several omissions.

First, we do not know how many left wing groups were set aside for extra scrutiny.

Second, we do not know how many total groups applied for tax exempt status during the period in question. The timeframe must match up with the timeframe in which it is claimed right wing groups were targeted.

Third, we do not know what proportion of the applications were from right wing groups, and what proportion were from left wing groups.

Consequently, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know if right wing groups were targeted out of proportion to their representation.

That no one is even asking these questions indicates they are, once again, not the slightest bit interested in discerning the truth.


Truth is always the first casualty in partisan hackery.