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When did we start this revision to history. FDR won over 80% of the Jewish vote in his run for the presidency. All 4 times. Hitler tried to denounce him by portraying FDR as Jewish (much like Southern leaders tried portraying Lincoln as black).

After Pearl Harbor he doesn't bee line it for Japan but jumps to Europe to stop Hitler from overrunning Britian and Palestine, two heavily Jewish populated area's first. He put thousands of Jewish leaders in government. Helped NY's first Jewish governor win. NY's first jewish senator win. Illinois first Jewish Governor Win...

People try this revisionist history BS that he didn't let Jews in the country. Nearly a quarter of all German Jews found refuge in the US under FDR (more than any other country).

 

[bripat9643]

When did we start this revision to history. FDR won over 80% of the Jewish vote in his run for the presidency. All 4 times. Hitler tried to denounce him by portraying FDR as Jewish (much like Southern leaders tried portraying Lincoln as black).

After Pearl Harbor he doesn't bee line it for Japan but jumps to Europe to stop Hitler from overrunning Britian and Palestine, two heavily Jewish populated area's first. He put thousands of Jewish leaders in government. Helped NY's first Jewish governor win. NY's first jewish senator win. Illinois first Jewish Governor Win...

People try this revisionist history BS that he didn't let Jews in the country. Nearly a quarter of all German Jews found refuge in the US under FDR (more than any other country).

FDR's troubling view of Jews

What FDR said about Jews in private
His personal sentiments about Jews may help explain America's tepid response to the Holocaust.

President Franklin Roosevelt sits at the steering wheel of his automobile… (Associated Press )

In May 1943, President Franklin Roosevelt met with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill at the White House. It was 17 months after Pearl Harbor and a little more than a year before D-Day. The two Allied leaders reviewed the war effort to date and exchanged thoughts on their plans for the postwar era. At one point in the discussion, FDR offered what he called "the best way to settle the Jewish question."

Vice President Henry Wallace, who noted the conversation in his diary, said Roosevelt spoke approvingly of a plan (recommended by geographer and Johns Hopkins University President Isaiah Bowman) "to spread the Jews thin all over the world." The diary entry adds: "The president said he had tried this out in [Meriwether] County, Georgia [where Roosevelt lived in the 1920s] and at Hyde Park on the basis of adding four or five Jewish families at each place. He claimed that the local population would have no objection if there were no more than that."

Roosevelt's "best way" remark is condescending and distasteful, and coming from anyone else it would probably be regarded as anti-Semitism. But more than that, FDR's support for "spreading the Jews thin" may hold the key to understanding a subject that has been at the center of controversy for decades: the American government's tepid response to the Holocaust.

Here's the paradox. The U.S. immigration system severely limited the number of German Jews admitted during the Nazi years to about 26,000 annually — but even that quota was less than 25% filled during most of the Hitler era, because the Roosevelt administration piled on so many extra requirements for would-be immigrants. For example, starting in 1941, merely leaving behind a close relative in Europe would be enough to disqualify an applicant — on the absurd assumption that the Nazis could threaten the relative and thereby force the immigrant into spying for Hitler.

Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president.

Every president's policy decisions are shaped by a variety of factors, some political, some personal. In Roosevelt's case, a pattern of private remarks about Jews, some of which I recently discovered at the Central Zionist Archives in Jerusalem and from other sources, may be significant.

In 1923, as a member of the Harvard board of directors, Roosevelt decided there were too many Jewish students at the college and helped institute a quota to limit the number admitted. In 1938, he privately suggested that Jews in Poland were dominating the economy and were therefore to blame for provoking anti-Semitism there. In 1941, he remarked at a Cabinet meeting that there were too many Jews among federal employees in Oregon. In 1943, he told government officials in Allied-liberated North Africa that the number of local Jews in various professions "should be definitely limited" so as to "eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany."

. . . . . .
​

 

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FDR's troubling view of Jews

What FDR said about Jews in private
His personal sentiments about Jews may help explain America's tepid response to the Holocaust.

President Franklin Roosevelt sits at the steering wheel of his automobile… (Associated Press )

In May 1943, President Franklin Roosevelt met with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill at the White House. It was 17 months after Pearl Harbor and a little more than a year before D-Day. The two Allied leaders reviewed the war effort to date and exchanged thoughts on their plans for the postwar era. At one point in the discussion, FDR offered what he called "the best way to settle the Jewish question."

Vice President Henry Wallace, who noted the conversation in his diary, said Roosevelt spoke approvingly of a plan (recommended by geographer and Johns Hopkins University President Isaiah Bowman) "to spread the Jews thin all over the world." The diary entry adds: "The president said he had tried this out in [Meriwether] County, Georgia [where Roosevelt lived in the 1920s] and at Hyde Park on the basis of adding four or five Jewish families at each place. He claimed that the local population would have no objection if there were no more than that."

Roosevelt's "best way" remark is condescending and distasteful, and coming from anyone else it would probably be regarded as anti-Semitism. But more than that, FDR's support for "spreading the Jews thin" may hold the key to understanding a subject that has been at the center of controversy for decades: the American government's tepid response to the Holocaust.

Here's the paradox. The U.S. immigration system severely limited the number of German Jews admitted during the Nazi years to about 26,000 annually — but even that quota was less than 25% filled during most of the Hitler era, because the Roosevelt administration piled on so many extra requirements for would-be immigrants. For example, starting in 1941, merely leaving behind a close relative in Europe would be enough to disqualify an applicant — on the absurd assumption that the Nazis could threaten the relative and thereby force the immigrant into spying for Hitler.

Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president.

Every president's policy decisions are shaped by a variety of factors, some political, some personal. In Roosevelt's case, a pattern of private remarks about Jews, some of which I recently discovered at the Central Zionist Archives in Jerusalem and from other sources, may be significant.

In 1923, as a member of the Harvard board of directors, Roosevelt decided there were too many Jewish students at the college and helped institute a quota to limit the number admitted. In 1938, he privately suggested that Jews in Poland were dominating the economy and were therefore to blame for provoking anti-Semitism there. In 1941, he remarked at a Cabinet meeting that there were too many Jews among federal employees in Oregon. In 1943, he told government officials in Allied-liberated North Africa that the number of local Jews in various professions "should be definitely limited" so as to "eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany."

. . . . . .
​

Why do you feel the need to use debunked lies to support your argument? I mean I used plain fact. Basic things that are proven. Here you have the quota (actually there was never one put on paper anywhere according to a study buy Richard Breitman and Alan J Lichtman). So why do you feel the need to keep reusing lies that have not been found to be true.

Why do you keep saying what someone says in private is more important than their actual actions they take? Did he follow through with the "lets spread them out" Idea? Of course not. Oswego and NYC became two large spots where they were allowed to choose to live together. But hey, he said "lets spread them out" so that's what matters, right? Not the reality of him choosing to do the opposite?

By your belief system, Bill Cosby could be a nice guy as long as at some point in his private life someone said he said he respects women. Then all the rapes don't matter anymore because it's right there in a diary.

In what way is "severely limiting" the Jewish Refugees actually taking in a full quarter of them. That's right, more than any other allied or neutral country by far. But because it wasn't unlimited, lets call the LARGEST intake of refugees a severe limitation right? The US has taken in about 19,000 syrian Refugees out of 5 million. FDR took in over 130,000 Jewish Refugees out of just over 500,000. I mean we've taken in less than .4% of Syrian refugees. He took in about 25% of Jewish Refugees despite his isolationist leanings.

You are saying that's proof he was a racist. Ok, what refugee crisis has the US answered better? What foreign refugee crisis did a president step up and say "we'll take more than FDR took"?? Because if the LARGEST refugee adoption in US history (though not the largest worldwide refugee crisis) was FDR taking in the jews, it's not making him look anti-semitic is it?


WHEN YOU HAVE TO CREATE OR RE-USE LIES TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT IT RUINS YOUR ARGUMENT.

 

[Pogo]

Actually, during the tiki torch march the night before, and a couple of times the next day, the white supremacists were saying that "Jews will not replace us".

FDR made clear he didn't like Jews.

So....he was a white supremacist?

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

in the 1920s and 1930w, every antisemite in New York had a Jewish lawyer.

By "New York" you mean "Wisconsin" right?

Say, did any of them retain Forney Johnston? I hear that guy could make a killer argument even after he was dead.

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, during the tiki torch march the night before, and a couple of times the next day, the white supremacists were saying that "Jews will not replace us".

FDR made clear he didn't like Jews.

So....he was a white supremacist?

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

in the 1920s and 1930w, every antisemite in New York had a Jewish lawyer.

By "New York" you mean "Wisconsin" right?

Say, did any of them retain Forney Johnston? I hear that guy could make a killer argument even after he was dead.

You're just another leftwing cockroach who is incapable of committing logic.

 

[Pogo]

Actually, during the tiki torch march the night before, and a couple of times the next day, the white supremacists were saying that "Jews will not replace us".

FDR made clear he didn't like Jews.

So....he was a white supremacist?

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

in the 1920s and 1930w, every antisemite in New York had a Jewish lawyer.

By "New York" you mean "Wisconsin" right?

Say, did any of them retain Forney Johnston? I hear that guy could make a killer argument even after he was dead.

You're just another leftwing cockroach who is incapable of committing logic.

And yet I can tell at first glance that a political convention isn't held on wet trolley tracks in Wisconsin.
Go figure.

 

[bripat9643]

FDR made clear he didn't like Jews.

So....he was a white supremacist?

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

in the 1920s and 1930w, every antisemite in New York had a Jewish lawyer.

By "New York" you mean "Wisconsin" right?

Say, did any of them retain Forney Johnston? I hear that guy could make a killer argument even after he was dead.

You're just another leftwing cockroach who is incapable of committing logic.

And yet I can tell at first glance that a political convention isn't held on wet trolley tracks in Wisconsin.
Go figure.

You'll keep harping on that until you find another post you can debunk successfully. That should be in a couple of years.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Really?....... the very first selection for Supreme Court Justice, by Roosevelt, was Hugo Black. .

Remember- you lied and claimed that the Democrats placed a KKK member on the Supreme Court.

I pointed out your lie- by pointing out that Hugo Black was not a KKK member- and had not been a KKK member for over a decade when appointed to the Supreme Court.

You were just lying again.

I never lie..

All you do is lie.

Remember- you lied and claimed that the Democrats placed a KKK member on the Supreme Court.

I pointed out your lie- by pointing out that Hugo Black was not a KKK member- and had not been a KKK member for over a decade when appointed to the Supreme Court.

You were just lying again

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Ready to admit you lied about FDR nominating a KKKer to the Supreme Court?

Really?....... the very first selection for Supreme Court Justice, by Roosevelt, was Hugo Black. .

Remember- you lied and claimed that the Democrats placed a KKK member on the Supreme Court.

I pointed out your lie- by pointing out that Hugo Black was not a KKK member- and had not been a KKK member for over a decade when appointed to the Supreme Court.

You were just lying again.

I never lie..

All you do is lie.

Remember- you lied and claimed that the Democrats placed a KKK member on the Supreme Court.

I pointed out your lie- by pointing out that Hugo Black was not a KKK member- and had not been a KKK member for over a decade when appointed to the Supreme Court.

You were just lying again

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Ready to admit you lied about FDR nominating a KKKer to the Supreme Court?

Quoting your article:

Reporter Ray Sprigle’s investigation of Black’s links to the Klan revealed that he joined the organization in September 1923 and resigned almost two years later, in July 1925.

'resigned...in July 1925'

This Supreme Court Justice had at one time been a KKK member- as usual you are lying- FDR never appointed a KKK member to the Supreme Court.

Ready to admit you lied when you pretended that FDR didn't put a KKKer on the Supreme Court?


Confess.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's actual Democrat discrimination:.

Yep- Democrats nominated and elected the first- and only African American President.

And people like you whigged out.

The Democrat Party: they were against melanin before they were for it.
.

The Democratic Party- we elect people of all colors to be President.

The GOP- we elect people who tacitly endorse white supremacists to be President

Ready to admit you lied about FDR nominating a KKKer to the Supreme Court?

LOL- still promoting that lie?

Still pissed off that America elected a Democrat- and an African American- to be President?

I'm still upset that this was put in the Oval Office:
Hussein Obama..... a dirt-eating low-life crypto-Islamist back-stabbing infanticide-supporting incompetent snake with an unbroken record of failure, both as a President and as a human being.


Anything in that description that you'd care to dispute???

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's actual Democrat discrimination:.

Yep- Democrats nominated and elected the first- and only African American President.

And people like you whigged out.

BTW.....there is no such word as 'whigged.'

But there is of 'imbecile.'

I looked it up....your picture was the definition.

LOL how cute- PC boy tried to insult me?

Meanwhile- you must be soooo happy to have a white President back in the White House.....

Only half-heads judge folks by the color of their skin.

Raise your paw.

Democrats elect persons to be President regardless of whether they are white or black.

Republicans....well.........

Actually, fools elect a man based on the melanin content of his skin.

Hussein Obama had zero accomplishments, and his utter failure in the office proves it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Actually, during the tiki torch march the night before, and a couple of times the next day, the white supremacists were saying that "Jews will not replace us".

FDR made clear he didn't like Jews.

So....he was a white supremacist?

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

Now....watch me blow your skirt up:

1. "...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


2. In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


3. At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

4. At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



5. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


6. The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

7. Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



a."However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." Roosevelt

8 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

9. [The Spirit of St. Louis was built in San Diego by Ryan Airlines, and while the name "Lindbergh Field" isn't official, it has stuck as a colloquial moniker. There have been some attempts to disassociate that name from the airport on the grounds that Lindbergh's antisemitism made him a terrible choice for the hero worship that naming the airport after him implies, especially because Lindbergh himself was the target of a virtual boycott after he opposed entering World War II and made disparaging remarks about Jews (even President Franklin Roosevelt claimed he could tell Lindbergh was a Nazi). Which of the following men does NOT have a chemical element named after him?]





10. Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

 

[Slash]

Ready to admit you lied when you pretended that FDR didn't put a KKKer on the Supreme Court?


Confess.

It would probably help your cause that he was a KKK member when he was put on the Supreme Court if you didn't post an old news article with his letter resigning from the KKK dated 12 years before his appointment. I mean if you want to prove he wasn't a KKK member when FDR put him on the supreme court, you just did that really really well.

I mean Justice Black probably did more with his anti-segregation stand in Brown vs. the board of Education than nearly any other American in the fight against Civil Rights.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When did we start this revision to history. FDR won over 80% of the Jewish vote in his run for the presidency. All 4 times. Hitler tried to denounce him by portraying FDR as Jewish (much like Southern leaders tried portraying Lincoln as black).

After Pearl Harbor he doesn't bee line it for Japan but jumps to Europe to stop Hitler from overrunning Britian and Palestine, two heavily Jewish populated area's first. He put thousands of Jewish leaders in government. Helped NY's first Jewish governor win. NY's first jewish senator win. Illinois first Jewish Governor Win...

People try this revisionist history BS that he didn't let Jews in the country. Nearly a quarter of all German Jews found refuge in the US under FDR (more than any other country).

And what does this have to do with the facts provided in post #1091???


You wouldn't be fool enough to dispute that FDR, Democrat demigod, was a bigot and had hostility toward every immigrant group.....would you?


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
FDR's troubling view of Jews



You might want to check on Teddy Roosevelt's views as well, before making a fool of yourself again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ready to admit you lied when you pretended that FDR didn't put a KKKer on the Supreme Court?


Confess.

It would probably help your cause that he was a KKK member when he was put on the Supreme Court if you didn't post an old news article with his letter resigning from the KKK dated 12 years before his appointment. I mean if you want to prove he wasn't a KKK member when FDR put him on the supreme court, you just did that really really well.

I mean Justice Black probably did more with his anti-segregation stand in Brown vs. the board of Education than nearly any other American in the fight against Civil Rights.

Soooo.....you'd provide the same defense if a Republican came out of the same milieu.....racist, anti-Catholic bigotry?

And....I have no 'case'....I'm never wrong.



FDR made a KKKer his first nominee to the Supreme Court.
That's a fact.

 

[bripat9643]

Ready to admit you lied when you pretended that FDR didn't put a KKKer on the Supreme Court?


Confess.

It would probably help your cause that he was a KKK member when he was put on the Supreme Court if you didn't post an old news article with his letter resigning from the KKK dated 12 years before his appointment. I mean if you want to prove he wasn't a KKK member when FDR put him on the supreme court, you just did that really really well.

I mean Justice Black probably did more with his anti-segregation stand in Brown vs. the board of Education than nearly any other American in the fight against Civil Rights.

The fact that he resigned from the KKK doesn't help your cause one bit. The fake news will dig into the past of republicans to find something they did when they were teenagers to incriminate them. Why should anyone let these hypocrites off the hook?

 

[Slash]

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

That's the problem with the PC police like you. Roosevelt literally was the guy who allowed the greatest refugee entrance in US History... which was solely for the jewish refugees, but he made jokes in a jewish accent in private, so therefore he's an anti-semite.

It's bad when what someone DOES becomes irrelevant because of something they supposedly said in private. I mean using this same burden of proof, Trump is a child rapist right?

And I love the terms like "quietly tell his state department". Which is code for "there is zero proof of this, but if I can slip this little lie on through, it makes it seem so much worse doesn't it?"

I mean you sit there and say he wanted to "spread them thin all over the world" And instead he fully takes in over 1/4 of the German Jewish refugees here to America and lets them build their own communities. But I guess that doesn't mean squat what someone does if you can find someone's diary saying they said something else.

Next thing you'll be saying that since someone wrote in their diary Hitler said he liked the Jews, that he wasn't anti-semitic.

 

[PoliticalChic]

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

That's the problem with the PC police like you. Roosevelt literally was the guy who allowed the greatest refugee entrance in US History... which was solely for the jewish refugees, but he made jokes in a jewish accent in private, so therefore he's an anti-semite.

It's bad when what someone DOES becomes irrelevant because of something they supposedly said in private. I mean using this same burden of proof, Trump is a child rapist right?

And I love the terms like "quietly tell his state department". Which is code for "there is zero proof of this, but if I can slip this little lie on through, it makes it seem so much worse doesn't it?"

I mean you sit there and say he wanted to "spread them thin all over the world" And instead he fully takes in over 1/4 of the German Jewish refugees here to America and lets them build their own communities. But I guess that doesn't mean squat what someone does if you can find someone's diary saying they said something else.

Next thing you'll be saying that since someone wrote in their diary Hitler said he liked the Jews, that he wasn't anti-semitic.

"That's the problem with the PC police like you. Roosevelt literally was the guy who allowed the greatest refugee entrance in US History... which was solely for the jewish refugees, but he made jokes in a jewish accent in private, so therefore he's an anti-semite."

Gads, you're a moron.

You went to government school, huh?



. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



a."However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." Roosevelt

." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

[The Spirit of St. Louis was built in San Diego by Ryan Airlines, and while the name "Lindbergh Field" isn't official, it has stuck as a colloquial moniker. There have been some attempts to disassociate that name from the airport on the grounds that Lindbergh's antisemitism made him a terrible choice for the hero worship that naming the airport after him implies, especially because Lindbergh himself was the target of a virtual boycott after he opposed entering World War II and made disparaging remarks about Jews (even President Franklin Roosevelt claimed he could tell Lindbergh was a Nazi). Which of the following men does NOT have a chemical element named after him?]



.....rescuing Lipizzaner horses....
[But not Jews.]

Roosevelt's orders.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

in the 1920s and 1930w, every antisemite in New York had a Jewish lawyer.

By "New York" you mean "Wisconsin" right?

Say, did any of them retain Forney Johnston? I hear that guy could make a killer argument even after he was dead.

You're just another leftwing cockroach who is incapable of committing logic.

And yet I can tell at first glance that a political convention isn't held on wet trolley tracks in Wisconsin.
Go figure.

You'll keep harping on that until you find another post you can debunk successfully. That should be in a couple of years.

Are you implying --- but bending over backward not to say ---- that I debunked this thread?

Because that's not accurate --- the original thread posted by Geaux4it was already debunked before I got here. And then your OP, posting the same thing expecting different results, was already debunked before it was merged.

All I did was (a) (re-)supply the easily-available data for the real derivation of the photo; (b) flesh out the historical context for what actually did happen at the 1924 political convention; (c) point out what "Klanbake" refers to, needing no further source than the OP link itself; (d) question how it is that "Liberals aren't liking" a photo with a fake description (which has still never been answered); (e) question how a photo that's been around and archived for 93 years can possibly be characterized as "newly discovered" (also never answered) and (f-g) laugh uproariously at you and Geaux who bought an obviously fake-news blog hook line and sinker and STILL a month later can't summon up the cojones to admit it.

Geaux at least had the self-awareness to run away and hide. You're still here, digging yourself deeper with every post.

I did however supply the actual exposé of the Forney Johnston content. I believe I scooped that particular boner. But then again everybody was laughing so hard at the original trolley-tracks-in-Wisconsin boner they were distracted.

 

[Syriusly]

Actually, during the tiki torch march the night before, and a couple of times the next day, the white supremacists were saying that "Jews will not replace us".

FDR made clear he didn't like Jews.

So....he was a white supremacist?

Yeah FDR dislike Jews so much he appointed a Jew to be a Supreme Court justice.....

Felix Frankfurter

Henry Morgenthau was hardly FDR’s only Jewish friend and close associate. He relied on the advice and support of Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter,Samuel Rosenman, David Lilienthal, Barnard Baruch, Nathan Straus, Herbert Lehman, Benjamin Cohen and David Dubinsky;the list could go on.

As Howard Sachar writes in “A History of the Jews in America,” “Four or five thousand Jews operated at various echelons of government during the 1930s,” a complete change from the past. Roosevelt encouraged the recruitment of Jewish talent, and he was often vilified for it. I remember his being called “Roosenfelt” by the true anti-Semites of his time. No wonder Jews supported him overwhelmingly at the polls.

in the 1920s and 1930w, every antisemite in New York had a Jewish lawyer.

Thanks for providing this insight of you antisemites.

 

[Slash]

You are listing that the US didn't accept a ship of refugees while trying to remain Neutral (neither did any other country in the America's). Where are you getting the anti-semitism of that? I mean we turn away refugees of every race and creed all the time. What makes that one anti-semitic, especially since it was done by the president who accepted more jewish refugees than any world leader ever recorded?

Fully 25% of German Jewish refugees ended up in the US. Currently we won't take more than .5% of Syrian refugees. Come on. If that's not enough, give me an example of what is in real life. If your goal is to say "FDR did more for Jewish Refugees than ANY world leader at the time, and more for refugees than ANY US president EVER has", you've made it. If that's not enough for you, then why do you feel more?

The War Refugee Board was something Roosevelt started. It was HIS executive order. He didn't oppose it. He created the thing!


On bombing the Concentration Camp rail lines, John J McCloy, the US assistant Secretary of War said that Roosevelts military leadership never even brought up the idea of that to him. Historians have said that bombing probably would have been repaired within days and caused no difference, and would have ended the food supply to concentration camps, causing mass starvation anyways. Not even Jews brought up bombing the camps until well into 1944. Are Jews anti-semitic as well? The US military leaders chose instead to end the war by focusing on military installations that would allow them to permanently shut down the concentration camps rather than reduce that effort to focus on the camps which could cause more harm than good and probably not have any lasting effect.