Liberals Aren’t Liking This Newly-Discovered Photo Of The 1924 Democratic Convention…

[Faun]

In the beginning the KKK were white Southern Christian Conservatives....

Now they aren't always Southern.

They were southern democrats...remember Abe? he was a republican. Now go get your Jim and Jane book it's reading hour....

LOL

The one thing that hasn't changed is that the south was, and is, the conservative Bible Belt.

 

[Syriusly]

In the beginning the KKK were white Southern Christian Conservatives....

Now they aren't always Southern.

They were southern democrats...remember Abe? he was a republican. Now go get your Jim and Jane book it's reading hour....

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

 

[Syriusly]

Just to point out- I haven't seen a single 'Conservative' object to the lies in the OP.

Either they have endorsed the lies- or given tacit approval to them with their silence.

That is the legacy of the modern Conservatives.

 

[Rambunctious]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

They were white...and maybe christian but to say the were political conservatives is inaccurate. I bet many of you history changing libs don't even know there were Black slave owners in the south. There were black businessmen that fought with the south. You all are so cut and dry, black and white no grey.
http://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

 

[Syriusly]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

They were white...and maybe christian but to say the were political conservatives is inaccurate.

Absolutely accurate

1. Believed in the supremacy of State's rights over the Federal government- check
2. Believed in a smaller Federal government- check.

 

[Syriusly]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

I bet many of you history changing libs don't even know there were Black slave owners in the south. There were black businessmen that fought with the south. You all are so cut and dry, black and white no grey.
http://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

LOL- and there were Democrats who opposed slavery.

You are all so cut and dry, black and white, no grey.

Of course there were African American slave owners- does that somehow make slavery okay? Or have anything to do with the fact that the KKK was formed by Southern White Christian men?

 

[Syriusly]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

There were black businessmen that fought with the south.

'black businessmen that fought with the south'......

There were blacks who fought with the Confederates- they fell into 2 groups:

1. Slaves who came with their masters who were officers- as servants and accompanied them onto the battlefield.
2. Slaves who were forced to construct fortifications for the Confederacy

There is no record of any serving officially because it was not until March 13, 1865, the Confederate Congress passed a law to allow black men to serve in combat roles- 3 weeks before the end of the war.

Of course 200,000 blacks served in the Union Army- a large portion of them escaped slaves who risked summary execution if captured by Confederates.

 

[Rambunctious]

• Believed in the supremacy of State's rights over the Federal government- check

• Believed in a smaller Federal government- check.

Both sides believed that back then, we had all fought for freedom of oppression and over taxation from the King. Lincoln hated what he had to do but he did it to save the nation. States rights were applauded by everyone and the federal government was not big back then so I don't know what you are talking about. Conservatives and liberals today do not link up with the conservatives and liberals of the past. Oranges and apples.

 

[Rambunctious]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

There were black businessmen that fought with the south.

'black businessmen that fought with the south'......

There were blacks who fought with the Confederates- they fell into 2 groups:

1. Slaves who came with their masters who were officers- as servants and accompanied them onto the battlefield.
2. Slaves who were forced to construct fortifications for the Confederacy

There is no record of any serving officially because it was not until March 13, 1865, the Confederate Congress passed a law to allow black men to serve in combat roles- 3 weeks before the end of the war.

Of course 200,000 blacks served in the Union Army- a large portion of them escaped slaves who risked summary execution if captured by Confederates.

Interesting read;

http://www.theroot.com/yes-there-were-black-confederates-here-s-why-1790858546
Freehling is right. A few thousand blacks did indeed fight for the Confederacy. Significantly, African-American scholars from Ervin Jordan and Joseph Reidy to Juliet Walker and Henry Louis Gates Jr., editor-in-chief of The Root, have stood outside this impasse, acknowledging that a few blacks, slave and free, supported the Confederacy.


How many supported it? No one knows precisely. But by drawing on these scholars and focusing on sources written or published during the war, I estimate that between 3,000 and 6,000 served as Confederate soldiers. Another 100,000 or so blacks, mostly slaves, supported the Confederacy as laborers, servants and teamsters. They built roads, batteries and fortifications; manned munitions factories—essentially did the Confederacy’s dirty work.

What were Douglass’ sources in identifying black Confederates? One came from a Virginia fugitive who escaped to Boston shortly before the Battle of First Manassas in Virginia that summer. He saw “one regiment of 700 black men from Georgia, 1000 [men] from South Carolina, and about 1000 [men with him from] Virginia, destined for Manassas when he ran away.”

For historians these are shocking figures. But another eyewitness also observed three regiments of blacks fighting for the Confederacy at Manassas. William Henry Johnson, a free black from Connecticut, ignored the Lincoln administration’s refusal to enlist black troops and fought as an independent soldier with the 8th Connecticut Volunteer Infantry. He also wrote for the Pine and Palm, a black paper, and blamed the Union loss at Manassas partly on black Confederates: “We were defeated, routed and driven from the field. … It was not alone the white man’s victory, for it was won by slaves. Yes, the Confederates had three regiments of blacks in the field, and they maneuvered like veterans, and beat the Union men back. This is not guessing, but it is a fact.”

 

[Pogo]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

They were white...and maybe christian but to say the were political conservatives is inaccurate. I bet many of you history changing libs <snip>

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... "history changing libs"?

What "lib" put up a picture of a December 1924 funeral march on a Wisconsin street and claimed it was the New York Democratic convention?

What "lib" declared "libs aren't liking" said photo from Wisconsin?

What "lib" tried to sell a 93-year old archive photo as "newly discovered"?

What "lib" dug an 11-year-old cadaver out of his grave to augment a bullshit story?

What "lib" puts up a bloghole big enough to drive a truck through and then doesn't even sign their name?

What "lib" then posts it as a thread, and when it's shown to be bullshit, runs away and hides?

 

[Rambunctious]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... "history changing libs"?

What "lib" put up a picture of a December 1924 funeral march on a Wisconsin street and claimed it was the New York Democratic convention?

What "lib" declared "libs aren't liking" said photo from Wisconsin?

What "lib" tried to sell a 93-year old archive photo as "newly discovered"?

What "lib" dug an 11-year-old cadaver out of his grave to augment a bullshit story?

What "lib" puts up a bloghole big enough to drive a truck through and then doesn't even sign their name?

What "lib" then posts it as a thread, and when it's shown to be bullshit, runs away and hides?

Are you going to take that to the grave with you? Libs always change history to cover their ugly past. You keep going on about that stupid picture and you ignore the reality of the whole original point.

You are not being honest with yourself. I know it makes democrats uncomfortable to be once so aligned with the KKK but it's a fact. All of your butt hurt shouting and complaining will never change that fact. Picture or no picture.

 

[Syriusly]

• Believed in the supremacy of State's rights over the Federal government- check

• Believed in a smaller Federal government- check.

Both sides believed that back then, we had all fought for freedom of oppression and over taxation from the King. Lincoln hated what he had to do but he did it to save the nation. States rights were applauded by everyone and the federal government was not big back then so I don't know what you are talking about. Conservatives and liberals today do not link up with the conservatives and liberals of the past. Oranges and apples.

No- both sides didn't believe in that then.

First of all- 'we' hadn't all fought for freedom of oppression- virtually no one was alive who fought in the in the Revolution- and a large portion of Americans opposed the Revolution.

States Rights were specifically named by the Confederacy as why the Confederate States were entitled to leave the United States- and States Rights have been one of the rallying cries of Conservatives ever since. When Goldwater went through the former Confederate states in 1964 he was extolling the Conservative platform of 'States Rights' to oppose Federally mandated integration.

But i do find it amusing that after you tried to equate today's Democrats to the founding of the KKK in 1865, that you want to instruct me that 'Conservatives and liberals' today don't equate with the Conservatives and liberals of the past.

Today's Democrats embrace Americans of all colors and faiths- and reject every tenet of the KKK. And of course the KKK would not want to be associated with an organization like the Democratic Party- which includes 95% of African American voters, and a majority of Jewish American voters.

 

[Syriusly]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... "history changing libs"?

What "lib" put up a picture of a December 1924 funeral march on a Wisconsin street and claimed it was the New York Democratic convention?

What "lib" declared "libs aren't liking" said photo from Wisconsin?

What "lib" tried to sell a 93-year old archive photo as "newly discovered"?

What "lib" dug an 11-year-old cadaver out of his grave to augment a bullshit story?

What "lib" puts up a bloghole big enough to drive a truck through and then doesn't even sign their name?

What "lib" then posts it as a thread, and when it's shown to be bullshit, runs away and hides?

Are you going to take that to the grave with you? Libs always change history to cover their ugly past. .

What 'ugly past'?

You are the one applauding a bullshit lie.

 

[Rambunctious]

No- both sides didn't believe in that then.

Were you alive back then? How do you know what they believed and did not believe? There was no concept of a "big Government" back then. They had states rights issues as always but to say one side was liberal and the other was conservative is short sighted and foolish.

That was a very different time than today. The fact remains: people that referred to themselves as southern democrats back then were supportive of the KKK.

You can post till the end of time but that will still remain the truth. You can find link after link or puke out liberal nonsense all you want but you can never change that history.

 

[Rambunctious]

What 'ugly past'?

You are the one applauding a bullshit lie

What lie am I applauding?

 

[Syriusly]

They were white Southern Christian Conservatives.

Now they aren't always Southern.

Still white Christian conservatives.

There were black businessmen that fought with the south.

'black businessmen that fought with the south'......

There were blacks who fought with the Confederates- they fell into 2 groups:

1. Slaves who came with their masters who were officers- as servants and accompanied them onto the battlefield.
2. Slaves who were forced to construct fortifications for the Confederacy

There is no record of any serving officially because it was not until March 13, 1865, the Confederate Congress passed a law to allow black men to serve in combat roles- 3 weeks before the end of the war.

Of course 200,000 blacks served in the Union Army- a large portion of them escaped slaves who risked summary execution if captured by Confederates.

Interesting read;

http://www.theroot.com/yes-there-were-black-confederates-here-s-why-1790858546
Freehling is right. A few thousand blacks did indeed fight for the Confederacy. Significantly, African-American scholars from Ervin Jordan and Joseph Reidy to Juliet Walker and Henry Louis Gates Jr., editor-in-chief of The Root, have stood outside this impasse, acknowledging that a few blacks, slave and free, supported the Confederacy.


How many supported it? No one knows precisely. But by drawing on these scholars and focusing on sources written or published during the war, I estimate that between 3,000 and 6,000 served as Confederate soldiers. Another 100,000 or so blacks, mostly slaves, supported the Confederacy as laborers, servants and teamsters. They built roads, batteries and fortifications; manned munitions factories—essentially did the Confederacy’s dirty work.

What were Douglass’ sources in identifying black Confederates? One came from a Virginia fugitive who escaped to Boston shortly before the Battle of First Manassas in Virginia that summer. He saw “one regiment of 700 black men from Georgia, 1000 [men] from South Carolina, and about 1000 [men with him from] Virginia, destined for Manassas when he ran away.”

For historians these are shocking figures. But another eyewitness also observed three regiments of blacks fighting for the Confederacy at Manassas. William Henry Johnson, a free black from Connecticut, ignored the Lincoln administration’s refusal to enlist black troops and fought as an independent soldier with the 8th Connecticut Volunteer Infantry. He also wrote for the Pine and Palm, a black paper, and blamed the Union loss at Manassas partly on black Confederates: “We were defeated, routed and driven from the field. … It was not alone the white man’s victory, for it was won by slaves. Yes, the Confederates had three regiments of blacks in the field, and they maneuvered like veterans, and beat the Union men back. This is not guessing, but it is a fact.”

Odd isn't it that there is no Confederate records of these 'three regiments of blacks in the field?

Also from your article:
Parker’s ordeal sheds light on black Confederate soldiers at Manassas. First impressed into Confederate service as a laborer, he was then ordered to man a battery and to fire on Union troops. After the battle, he resumed his status as laborer, working burial duty. Prompted by the first Confiscation Act, he found freedom behind Union lines and in New York City.

His case was representative. Confederates impressed slaves as laborers and at times forced them to fight. In effect, they put guns to their heads, forcing them to fire on Yankees.

Still not sure what this has to do with the White Conservative Christian men who formed the KKK.

Or the lies of the OP.

 

[Syriusly]

What 'ugly past'?

You are the one applauding a bullshit lie

What lie am I applauding?

The entire OP is a bullshit lie that you are applauding.

 

[Rambunctious]

Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan were into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party. There is no changing that snowflakes! sorry!

 

[Rambunctious]

Odd isn't it that there is no Confederate records of these 'three regiments of blacks in the field?

 

[Rambunctious]

The entire OP is a bullshit lie that you are applauding.

No it is not...it may be a mistake but I showed yesterday how that mistake was made...no one lied. They were maybe mislead but no one lied that I can see.