Lets listen to a person who lived in both socialist and capitalist systems has to say.

[Theowl32]

Don't worry. This isn't for the board American leftists. Their ability to see and hear have long been taken from them. Scary, when you think about it.

Anyway listen to what she says.

 

[Mac1958]

Good thing no one is calling for us to be Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.

A mixed economy means you're moving along a spectrum of government involvement. Not government ownership. Which, as she says, is actual socialism.

I don't know why this is so difficult for right wingers to grasp.

 

[occupied]

Socialism, as in state ownership of the means of production, is all but dead as an alternative to plutocracy. Plutocrats in every other part of the world gang up on any economy that seeks to become textbook socialist. We may never know if socialism could work or not because it has never been allowed to exist in peace.

 

[Moonglow]

Why are the commies in China kicking our asses then?

 

[rightnow909]

Good thing no one is calling for us to be Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.

no one but Ocasio Cortez... Pelosi... Ilhan... and other knuckleheads

but not to worry... we have the rinos to save us

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Good thing no one is calling for us to be Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.

A mixed economy means you're moving along a spectrum of government involvement. Not government ownership. Which, as she says, is actual socialism.

I don't know why this is so difficult for right wingers to grasp.

Now insert politicians for “government involvement “ (because they are the government) and tell us again who doesn’t understand.

 

[Mac1958]

no one but Ocasio Cortez... Pelosi... Ilhan... and other knuckleheads

but not to worry... we have the rinos to save us

Links, please?

 

[Mac1958]

Now insert politicians for “government involvement “ (because they are the government) and tell us again who doesn’t understand.

Socialism is government ownership. As the lady says.

Clearly many on the Right don't know this. Why does she?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Socialism, as in state ownership of the means of production, is all but dead as an alternative to plutocracy. Plutocrats in every other part of the world gang up on any economy that seeks to become textbook socialist. We may never know if socialism could work or not because it has never been allowed to exist in peace.

Would you care to elaborate why socialism hasn’t been allowed to exist in peace?
I cant wait for this one!

 

[g5000]

Don't worry. This isn't for the board American leftists. Their ability to see and hear have long been taken from them. Scary, when you think about it.

Anyway listen to what she says.

I cannot convey the hilarity of the irony of you completely missing her point.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Socialism is government ownership. As the lady says.

Clearly many on the Right don't know this. Why does she?

Socialism is government ownership. As the lady says.

Clearly many on the Right don't know this. Why does she?

I understand it just fine. Now address my post .

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I cannot convey the hilarity of the irony of you completely missing her point.

Go ahead. I’ll wait.

 

[g5000]

Go ahead. I’ll wait.

She's tired of idiots assigning the "socialism" label incorrectly.

 

[Mac1958]

I understand it just fine. Now address my post .

Let's see:

"A mixed economy means you're moving along a spectrum of politician involvement. Not government ownership. Which, as she says, is actual socialism."

No. That does not make sense. That is not socialism. Maybe it is in your world. I can't help that.

 

[Mac1958]

She's tired of idiots assigning the "socialism" label incorrectly.

A Trumpster specialty. Every single fucking day here.

 

[hadit]

Socialism, as in state ownership of the means of production, is all but dead as an alternative to plutocracy. Plutocrats in every other part of the world gang up on any economy that seeks to become textbook socialist. We may never know if socialism could work or not because it has never been allowed to exist in peace.

Ah yes, the old "We just haven't done it right yet" gambit. The only way Socialism can ever work is if it's done in a group of people voluntarily who literally place the good of the group above their own interests, like the early Church did.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Let's see:

"A mixed economy means you're moving along a spectrum of politician involvement. Not government ownership. Which, as she says, is actual socialism."

No. That does not make sense. That is not socialism. Maybe it is in your world. I can't help that.

So just democratic socialism?

 

[Mac1958]

So just democratic socialism?

We won't agree on what THAT means, either.

I'll say it for the thousandth time. I can't make it more clear than this:

The goal is to find the optimal place on the continuum between government involvement/cost and smart capitalism. Excessive government creates too much of a drag on the dynamics of capitalism, but too much under-regulated capitalism creates too many imbalances in the system and will invariably lead to overcompensation in the opposite direction.

If that makes sense, great. If not, I don't know what else to tell you.

 

[occupied]

Would you care to elaborate why socialism hasn’t been allowed to exist in peace?
I cant wait for this one!

Can you think of a socialist/communist regime that was not immediately subject to attack by every economic/political/military resource of the West? No one can say what these nations would have been had they not been burdened with defense and trade embargoes. As an experiment Socialism is still untried. It's all academic. Socialism is dead because capitalists will destroy whole counties and their economies to see it never happens.

 

[MinTrut]

Democrats: Not remotely socialist.

Socialists: Not remotely Democrat.

Confusing Democrats with socialists is like believing Mengele was tortured by children rather than the other way around.