Let’s give the Palestinians a state, why not?!

[Roudy]

Yeah! Let's give them some land in the holy land! Why not? What could possibly go wrong. Look how peaceful and lovely they were when they were given complete control of Gaza!

Historical Fact: Palestinian terrorism and war crimes. Extremely short list, just some highlights.

September 1975
Men belonging to the armed groups of the Palestinian leaders George Habash executed all the Christian villagers from Beit Mellat in the north of Lebanon, who had fallen into their hands. Nayef Hawatmeh is a member of the DFLP and his group was recently removed from the list of terror groups by the Clinton administration so he could work with Arafat. Subsequently, Israel refused to allow him to enter Gaza as Israel considers him a dangerous terrorist.


September 3, 1975
At Deir Ayach in Northern Lebanon, a monastery transformed in 1947 into a school was twenty eight years later attacked by Lebanese and Palestinians. The school had 960 children (660 Muslims) who mainly were attending at no cost. Three monks aged, respectively, 60, 78, and 93, the sole occupants of Deir Ayach on that day were murdered. The veins of the blind Boutros Sassine's arms were severed. Antoine Tamini was slaughtered, decapitated, and burned. Hanna Maksoud was found in his room, his throat cut. The Christian villagers living around the school monastery fled, and the aggressors destroyed their village.

January 15, 1976
The Palestinians arrived at Kab Elias, an Islamic Christian village situated in the Bekaa. Some ten days later, 16 Christians were killed and another 23 were injured. Following that, we witnessed the exodus of the Christians towards Zahlþ, East Beirut and Jounieh.

At the beginning of January 1976
In Damour and Jieh, two Christian towns south of Beirut, the Palestinians and Syrians went so far as to cut the fingers of Christian children to ensure that they never would be able to pull a gun's trigger. In Damour, at least 300 inhabitants were killed and their churches profaned.

January 19, 1976
The village of Hoche Barada in the Bekaa was attacked by Palestinians and Muslim Lebanese and completely pillaged and destroyed.

In 1976
The Army of Arab Lebanon, founded by the Palestinians, attacked the city of Aintoura and destroyed it. The attack was led by the Lebanese officer Ibrahim Chahine.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Samir Abou Zahr led the massacre perpetrated by the Army of Arab Lebanon on the Emir Bechir Barracks in Beirut. During this massacre, Lebanese soldiers and officers were murdered in their sleep.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Mostapha Sleiman, a member of the Army of Arab Lebanon, led the massacre of the Lebanese population in the city of Chekka.

March 10, 1976
Officer Moiin Hatoum, member of the Army of Arab Lebanon led an attack on the Khyam Barracks. Over 30 Lebanese soldiers were killed.

March 1985
Exodus of tens of thousands of Christians from Iklim El_Kharroub and the eastern part of Saida. The Palestinians and Lebanese Druze laid siege to, pillaged and burned over twenty Christian villages. Walid Joumblatt, Yasser Arafat and Syrian officers, planned these massacres.

 

[Auld Phart]

Give them New York.

 

[ozro]

Give them New York.

....and rockets will be launched into New Jersey and Connecticut.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

It wouldn't change anything if governments relocated Israelis/Jews from their ancestral homeland and let the Palestinians (Muslims) have it all. Their next move would be to focus on the Christians in Lebanon.
Their goal remains the same as that of Iran's, global intifada.
Per a United Arab Emirate's Arab: "The conflict between Palestinians and Israelis isn't about territory, it's about subjugation. We are a conquering religion."

 

[USAF 2023]

Yeah! Let's give them some land in the holy land! Why not? What could possibly go wrong. Look how peaceful and lovely they were when they were given complete control of Gaza!

Historical Fact: Palestinian terrorism and war crimes. Extremely short list, just some highlights.

September 1975
Men belonging to the armed groups of the Palestinian leaders George Habash executed all the Christian villagers from Beit Mellat in the north of Lebanon, who had fallen into their hands. Nayef Hawatmeh is a member of the DFLP and his group was recently removed from the list of terror groups by the Clinton administration so he could work with Arafat. Subsequently, Israel refused to allow him to enter Gaza as Israel considers him a dangerous terrorist.


September 3, 1975
At Deir Ayach in Northern Lebanon, a monastery transformed in 1947 into a school was twenty eight years later attacked by Lebanese and Palestinians. The school had 960 children (660 Muslims) who mainly were attending at no cost. Three monks aged, respectively, 60, 78, and 93, the sole occupants of Deir Ayach on that day were murdered. The veins of the blind Boutros Sassine's arms were severed. Antoine Tamini was slaughtered, decapitated, and burned. Hanna Maksoud was found in his room, his throat cut. The Christian villagers living around the school monastery fled, and the aggressors destroyed their village.

January 15, 1976
The Palestinians arrived at Kab Elias, an Islamic Christian village situated in the Bekaa. Some ten days later, 16 Christians were killed and another 23 were injured. Following that, we witnessed the exodus of the Christians towards Zahlþ, East Beirut and Jounieh.

At the beginning of January 1976
In Damour and Jieh, two Christian towns south of Beirut, the Palestinians and Syrians went so far as to cut the fingers of Christian children to ensure that they never would be able to pull a gun's trigger. In Damour, at least 300 inhabitants were killed and their churches profaned.

January 19, 1976
The village of Hoche Barada in the Bekaa was attacked by Palestinians and Muslim Lebanese and completely pillaged and destroyed.

In 1976
The Army of Arab Lebanon, founded by the Palestinians, attacked the city of Aintoura and destroyed it. The attack was led by the Lebanese officer Ibrahim Chahine.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Samir Abou Zahr led the massacre perpetrated by the Army of Arab Lebanon on the Emir Bechir Barracks in Beirut. During this massacre, Lebanese soldiers and officers were murdered in their sleep.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Mostapha Sleiman, a member of the Army of Arab Lebanon, led the massacre of the Lebanese population in the city of Chekka.

March 10, 1976
Officer Moiin Hatoum, member of the Army of Arab Lebanon led an attack on the Khyam Barracks. Over 30 Lebanese soldiers were killed.

March 1985
Exodus of tens of thousands of Christians from Iklim El_Kharroub and the eastern part of Saida. The Palestinians and Lebanese Druze laid siege to, pillaged and burned over twenty Christian villages. Walid Joumblatt, Yasser Arafat and Syrian officers, planned these massacres.

Haven’t you heard? It’s the Israeli’s that are killing the questions.

 

[Roudy]

Haven’t you heard? It’s the Israeli’s that are killing the questions.

Now we know why Palestinians are at the bottom of the Arab Muslim totem pole, and nobody wants them.

 

[Rigby5]

That is ridiculous lies.

It wouldn't change anything if governments relocated Israelis/Jews from their ancestral homeland and let the Palestinians (Muslims) have it all. Their next move would be to focus on the Christians in Lebanon.
Their goal remains the same as that of Iran's, global intifada.
Per a United Arab Emirate's Arab: "The conflict between Palestinians and Israelis isn't about territory, it's about subjugation. We are a conquering religion."

That is a lie.
Moslem not only are prevented by the Quran from invading anyone, but they clearly are required to stay "where the bones of their ancestors are buried". For that reason, they never invade anywhere else.

And the closest to an "ancestral homeland" for Jews is Egypt.
They were nomadic shepherds every where else.
The Bible is totally fake and is not real history.
The Hebrew left Egypt around 1200 BC.
The Hebrew did not invade the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC.
They were so brutal, arrogant, and evil, after massacring all the Canaanite women and children at Jericho, that they were attack, defeated, and made to leave, by everyone.
The Assyrians defeated them around 800 BC.
The Babylonians defeated them around 700 BC.
The Persians defeated them around 600 BC.
The Greeks defeated them around 500 BC.
The Seleucids defeated them around 400 BC.
The final defeat by the Romans was around 160 AD.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

That is ridiculous lies.


That is a lie.
Moslem not only are prevented by the Quran from invading anyone, but they clearly are required to stay "where the bones of their ancestors are buried". For that reason, they never invade anywhere else.

And the closest to an "ancestral homeland" for Jews is Egypt.
They were nomadic shepherds every where else.
The Bible is totally fake and is not real history.
The Hebrew left Egypt around 1200 BC.
The Hebrew did not invade the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC.
They were so brutal, arrogant, and evil, after massacring all the Canaanite women and children at Jericho, that they were attack, defeated, and made to leave, by everyone.
The Assyrians defeated them around 800 BC.
The Babylonians defeated them around 700 BC.
The Persians defeated them around 600 BC.
The Greeks defeated them around 500 BC.
The Seleucids defeated them around 400 BC.
The final defeat by the Romans was around 160 AD.

LOL!
Muslims invaded Jerusalem which resulted in the Europeans to respond with the First Crusade. They also invaded Spain. They also invaded all the way into Vienna, Austria before being beaten back. They acknowledge they are a conquering religion.
Your lies can't change history.

 

[Soupnazi630]

That is ridiculous lies.


That is a lie.
Moslem not only are prevented by the Quran from invading anyone, but they clearly are required to stay "where the bones of their ancestors are buried". For that reason, they never invade anywhere else.

And the closest to an "ancestral homeland" for Jews is Egypt.
They were nomadic shepherds every where else.
The Bible is totally fake and is not real history.
The Hebrew left Egypt around 1200 BC.
The Hebrew did not invade the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC.
They were so brutal, arrogant, and evil, after massacring all the Canaanite women and children at Jericho, that they were attack, defeated, and made to leave, by everyone.
The Assyrians defeated them around 800 BC.
The Babylonians defeated them around 700 BC.
The Persians defeated them around 600 BC.
The Greeks defeated them around 500 BC.
The Seleucids defeated them around 400 BC.
The final defeat by the Romans was around 160 AD.

There is no such restriction in the Quran and they invade where ever they can

You consistently lie

The Muslims are evil and the real terrorists . Their religion MANDATES spreading their beliefs through war and violence

 

[Roudy]

That is ridiculous lies.


That is a lie.
Moslem not only are prevented by the Quran from invading anyone, but they clearly are required to stay "where the bones of their ancestors are buried". For that reason, they never invade anywhere else.

And the closest to an "ancestral homeland" for Jews is Egypt.
They were nomadic shepherds every where else.
The Bible is totally fake and is not real history.
The Hebrew left Egypt around 1200 BC.
The Hebrew did not invade the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC.
They were so brutal, arrogant, and evil, after massacring all the Canaanite women and children at Jericho, that they were attack, defeated, and made to leave, by everyone.
The Assyrians defeated them around 800 BC.
The Babylonians defeated them around 700 BC.
The Persians defeated them around 600 BC.
The Greeks defeated them around 500 BC.
The Seleucids defeated them around 400 BC.
The final defeat by the Romans was around 160 AD.

The depth of your ignorance and lack of proper education has been noted. Islam rose out of the Arabian Peninsula and ONLY spread through invasions and barbarism.

Several historical periods and campaigns can be broadly categorized as "Muslim invasions," referring to military expansions and conquests carried out by various Muslim groups throughout history. Here is a non-exhaustive list of notable Muslim conquests and invasions based on the search results:

Early Muslim Conquests (7th-8th centuries):
These were primarily carried out by the Rashidun and Umayyad Caliphates, originating from the Arabian Peninsula and expanding rapidly across the Middle East, North Africa, and into parts of Europe and Asia.

• Conquest of the Levant (634-641): Syria was the first province taken from Byzantine control, including the capture of Jerusalem in 638.
• Conquest of Egypt (639-642): The swift and complete conquest of Egypt, crucial for its grain production and strategic location.
• Conquest of Persia and Iraq (633-651): The Sasanian Empire was defeated, leading to the Islamization of Western Asia.
• Conquest of North Africa (647-742): Arab forces expanded across the Maghreb, establishing control over much of the region.
• Conquest of Hispania (711-718): The invasion of the Iberian Peninsula by Arab and Berber forces, establishing al-Andalus.
• Conquest of Transoxiana (662-751): Expansion into Central Asia, including areas that are now Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan.
• Conquest of Sindh (711-714): A large-scale campaign in the Indus valley, leading to Arab control of the lower Indus valley.

Later Muslim Invasions:

• Muslim conquests in the Indian subcontinent: Including campaigns by the Umayyad, Ghaznavid, and Ghurid dynasties, as well as the Delhi Sultanate and Mughal conquests.
• Seljuk conquest of Turkey: In the 11th century.
• Ottoman conquests in Europe: Starting in the 14th century and continuing for several centuries.

Other significant examples include:

• Conquest of Armenia (639) and Georgia (736)
• Conquest of Nubia (700-1606)
• Incursions into southern Italy (831-902)
• Conquest of Anatolia (1060-1360)
• Byzantine-Ottoman Wars (1299-1453)

 

[Roudy]

There is no such restriction in the Quran and they invade where ever they can

You consistently lie

The Muslims are evil and the real terrorists . Their religion MANDATES spreading their beliefs through war and violence

The Koran itself encourages violence towards non Muslims, those who don’t follow barbaric Shariah Law, those who reject Mohammad as the Final Messenger and those who refuse to convert.

 

[MJB12741]

Let us not forget how loving & peaceful the Palestinians were with the Israelis before 1947.

Palestine Weekly Article on 1929 Hebron Massacre | The Jewish Community of Hebron

The Palestine Weekly published eye-witness accounts of the deadly Hebron riots.

hebron.org.il

 

[Foxfyre]

Yeah! Let's give them some land in the holy land! Why not? What could possibly go wrong. Look how peaceful and lovely they were when they were given complete control of Gaza!

Historical Fact: Palestinian terrorism and war crimes. Extremely short list, just some highlights.

September 1975
Men belonging to the armed groups of the Palestinian leaders George Habash executed all the Christian villagers from Beit Mellat in the north of Lebanon, who had fallen into their hands. Nayef Hawatmeh is a member of the DFLP and his group was recently removed from the list of terror groups by the Clinton administration so he could work with Arafat. Subsequently, Israel refused to allow him to enter Gaza as Israel considers him a dangerous terrorist.


September 3, 1975
At Deir Ayach in Northern Lebanon, a monastery transformed in 1947 into a school was twenty eight years later attacked by Lebanese and Palestinians. The school had 960 children (660 Muslims) who mainly were attending at no cost. Three monks aged, respectively, 60, 78, and 93, the sole occupants of Deir Ayach on that day were murdered. The veins of the blind Boutros Sassine's arms were severed. Antoine Tamini was slaughtered, decapitated, and burned. Hanna Maksoud was found in his room, his throat cut. The Christian villagers living around the school monastery fled, and the aggressors destroyed their village.

January 15, 1976
The Palestinians arrived at Kab Elias, an Islamic Christian village situated in the Bekaa. Some ten days later, 16 Christians were killed and another 23 were injured. Following that, we witnessed the exodus of the Christians towards Zahlþ, East Beirut and Jounieh.

At the beginning of January 1976
In Damour and Jieh, two Christian towns south of Beirut, the Palestinians and Syrians went so far as to cut the fingers of Christian children to ensure that they never would be able to pull a gun's trigger. In Damour, at least 300 inhabitants were killed and their churches profaned.

January 19, 1976
The village of Hoche Barada in the Bekaa was attacked by Palestinians and Muslim Lebanese and completely pillaged and destroyed.

In 1976
The Army of Arab Lebanon, founded by the Palestinians, attacked the city of Aintoura and destroyed it. The attack was led by the Lebanese officer Ibrahim Chahine.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Samir Abou Zahr led the massacre perpetrated by the Army of Arab Lebanon on the Emir Bechir Barracks in Beirut. During this massacre, Lebanese soldiers and officers were murdered in their sleep.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Mostapha Sleiman, a member of the Army of Arab Lebanon, led the massacre of the Lebanese population in the city of Chekka.

March 10, 1976
Officer Moiin Hatoum, member of the Army of Arab Lebanon led an attack on the Khyam Barracks. Over 30 Lebanese soldiers were killed.

March 1985
Exodus of tens of thousands of Christians from Iklim El_Kharroub and the eastern part of Saida. The Palestinians and Lebanese Druze laid siege to, pillaged and burned over twenty Christian villages. Walid Joumblatt, Yasser Arafat and Syrian officers, planned these massacres.

I have no problem with the Palestinians having their own state. But their leadership, from the PLO on, has rejected that now for pretty much six decades. They don't want a state separate from Israel. They want a state in which all Jews are dead or ejected and includes an Israel that is obliterated and is no more.

The U.N. experiment for separate 'nations' has obviously failed. So it should go to Plan B. Negotiate a deal to buy land, maybe from Saudi Arabia or the Sudan, something with at least a bit of sea access, well away from Israel, and funding to support the Palestinians until housing and such can be built.

And then encourage all the Palestinians to vacate Gaza and the West Bank and move to the new 'country'. Those who choose to remain where they are will be subject to Israeli rule and will receive no U.N. funding or 'humanitarian aid.' Israel will have full authority to deal as necessary with any who cause Israel any problems including prosecuting them and ejecting them from the country.

 

[Roudy]

I have no problem with the Palestinians having their own state. But their leadership, from the PLO on, has rejected that now for pretty much six decades. They don't want a state separate from Israel. They want a state in which all Jews are dead or ejected and includes an Israel that is obliterated and is no more.

The U.N. experiment for separate 'nations' has obviously failed. So it should go to Plan B. Negotiate a deal to buy land, maybe from Saudi Arabia or the Sudan, something with at least a bit of sea access, well away from Israel, and funding to support the Palestinians until housing and such can be built.

And then encourage all the Palestinians to vacate Gaza and the West Bank and move to the new 'country'. Those who choose to remain where they are will be subject to Israeli rule and will receive no U.N. funding or 'humanitarian aid.' Israel will have full authority to deal as necessary with any who cause Israel any problems including prosecuting them and ejecting them from the country.

There already is a Palestinian state, it’s called Jordan.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

There already is a Palestinian state, it’s called Jordan.

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That region circa 3200 BCE: "Judeah." The people there first identified as Israelis, was in 1209 BCE by Pharaoh Merpentan. Muslims didn't even go there until the year 636 CE, 3,636 years after the Jews/Hebrews did and the way the Muslims did go there was by their usual method of spreading their vile religion via the sword. Frankly, Muslims are the colonists, whereas the Israelis, even most of those that fled Europe after World War 2, were descendants of the original inhabitants. Thus, the indigenous peoples. It was declared the state of Israel in 1948. It was long overdue.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Not for us to decide. Not our country.

 

[Foxfyre]

There already is a Palestinian state, it’s called Jordan.

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Jordan doesn't want the Palestinians now in Gaza and the West Bank any more that Egypt or Syria or Lebanon wants them. The only solution is to buy them a homeland and make it attractive for then to move there.

 

[MJB12741]

Jordan doesn't want the Palestinians now in Gaza and the West Bank any more that Egypt or Syria or Lebanon wants them. The only solution is to buy them a homeland and make it attractive for then to move there.

Yes. Only problem is where is "there"?

 

[Foxfyre]

Yes. Only problem is where is "there"?

If you look at those large Arab countries bordering on seas, there is a tremendous amount of land there and quite a bit is unoccupied. They could easily carve out a patch of land the size of Gaza and the West Bank combined and would never miss it.

 

[Stryder50]

Yeah! Let's give them some land in the holy land! Why not? What could possibly go wrong. Look how peaceful and lovely they were when they were given complete control of Gaza!

Historical Fact: Palestinian terrorism and war crimes. Extremely short list, just some highlights.

September 1975
Men belonging to the armed groups of the Palestinian leaders George Habash executed all the Christian villagers from Beit Mellat in the north of Lebanon, who had fallen into their hands. Nayef Hawatmeh is a member of the DFLP and his group was recently removed from the list of terror groups by the Clinton administration so he could work with Arafat. Subsequently, Israel refused to allow him to enter Gaza as Israel considers him a dangerous terrorist.


September 3, 1975
At Deir Ayach in Northern Lebanon, a monastery transformed in 1947 into a school was twenty eight years later attacked by Lebanese and Palestinians. The school had 960 children (660 Muslims) who mainly were attending at no cost. Three monks aged, respectively, 60, 78, and 93, the sole occupants of Deir Ayach on that day were murdered. The veins of the blind Boutros Sassine's arms were severed. Antoine Tamini was slaughtered, decapitated, and burned. Hanna Maksoud was found in his room, his throat cut. The Christian villagers living around the school monastery fled, and the aggressors destroyed their village.

January 15, 1976
The Palestinians arrived at Kab Elias, an Islamic Christian village situated in the Bekaa. Some ten days later, 16 Christians were killed and another 23 were injured. Following that, we witnessed the exodus of the Christians towards Zahlþ, East Beirut and Jounieh.

At the beginning of January 1976
In Damour and Jieh, two Christian towns south of Beirut, the Palestinians and Syrians went so far as to cut the fingers of Christian children to ensure that they never would be able to pull a gun's trigger. In Damour, at least 300 inhabitants were killed and their churches profaned.

January 19, 1976
The village of Hoche Barada in the Bekaa was attacked by Palestinians and Muslim Lebanese and completely pillaged and destroyed.

In 1976
The Army of Arab Lebanon, founded by the Palestinians, attacked the city of Aintoura and destroyed it. The attack was led by the Lebanese officer Ibrahim Chahine.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Samir Abou Zahr led the massacre perpetrated by the Army of Arab Lebanon on the Emir Bechir Barracks in Beirut. During this massacre, Lebanese soldiers and officers were murdered in their sleep.

In 1976
The Lebanese officer Mostapha Sleiman, a member of the Army of Arab Lebanon, led the massacre of the Lebanese population in the city of Chekka.

March 10, 1976
Officer Moiin Hatoum, member of the Army of Arab Lebanon led an attack on the Khyam Barracks. Over 30 Lebanese soldiers were killed.

March 1985
Exodus of tens of thousands of Christians from Iklim El_Kharroub and the eastern part of Saida. The Palestinians and Lebanese Druze laid siege to, pillaged and burned over twenty Christian villages. Walid Joumblatt, Yasser Arafat and Syrian officers, planned these massacres.

Already tried about 78 years ago. Non-Jews failed to accept it.
...
On November 29, 1947, the United Nations approved a plan to separate the British Mandate territory of Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab. As part of this plan, Jerusalem would have been under international control. United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine or United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 was not successful in creating two states; the Arab world strongly rejected it, and fighting between Jews and Arabs began almost immediately after the resolution’s passage. However, the borders it laid out have been critical to subsequent negotiations. Below are excerpts from the Partition Plan.

The United Nations Partition Plan of 1947 | My Jewish Learning

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181

www.myjewishlearning.com

....

Result of the UN solution of 1947;

1948 Arab–Israeli War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org