Lee Chatfield (Republican) Is Accused of Abusing the Woman Starting at Age 15 & Including on Her Wedding Night

[Bob Blaylock]

Don't you regularly do that with Dems and leftists?

I think there is one undeniable fact that shoots down your attempt to pull a tu quoque on me.

While all sorts of misconduct takes place, among people of all ideological leanings, where this sort of behavior shows up on the part of a conservatives, those of u on the right have no trouble at all condemning it.

You on the left wrong not only will refuse to condemn the evil and madness that shows up associated with your side, but you embrace and support it, and condemn those of us who dare to call it from what it is.

As a conservative, I have no trouble at all condemning filth such as Mr. Chatfield is accused of being. I have no trouble at all condemning racists and neo-nazis and other bad elements that try to cling to my side.

You and your side openly embrace the faggots transsexuals and other sexual perverts, child abusers, abortionists, violent terrorist gangs like Black LIES Matter, drug abusers, and other filth that cling to your side.

Whatever moral high ground you think you have from which to look down on me or any conservative, is a delusion. Your “high ground” is a bottomless pit.

 

[Coyote]

I think there is one undeniable fact that shoots down your attempt to pull a tu quoque on me.

While all sorts of misconduct takes place, among people of all ideological leanings, where this sort of behavior shows up on the part of a conservatives, those of u on the right have no trouble at all condemning it.

You on the left wrong not only will refuse to condemn the evil and madness that shows up associated with your side, but you embrace and support it, and condemn those of us who dare to call it from what it is.

As a conservative, I have no trouble at all condemning filth such as Mr. Chatfield is accused of being. I have no trouble at all condemning racists and neo-nazis and other bad elements that try to cling to my side.

You and your side openly embrace the faggots transsexuals and other sexual perverts, child abusers, abortionists, violent terrorist gangs like Black LIES Matter, drug abusers, and other filth that cling to your side.

Whatever moral high ground you think you have from which to look down on me or any conservative, is a delusion. Your “high ground” is a bottomless pit.

I think there is one unquestionable thing alright. You do the exact same thing to the left. Don’t fall off that pedestal now…it’s pretty rickety.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I think there is one unquestionable thing alright. You do the exact same thing to the left. Don’t fall off that pedestal now…it’s pretty rickety.

You gladly defend and embrace all manner of evil and madness that clings to your side. You cannot even bring yourself to acknowledge such sicknesses as homosexuality, transsexuality, abortion, mob violence, and such, for what they very clearly are.

What comparable evils and madnesses do you think cling to my side, that I will not easily and quickly not only acknowledge, but condemn for what they are?

Face it: Wherever matters of political controversy align with the distinction between good and evil, between reason and madness, you and your side are nearly always found staunchly standing with evil and madness.

 

[surada]

I did, sorry you have a reading problem.

Abusing a girl of 15 and carrying on with his brother's wife, that is rotten cr-p.
And besides I suspect he told his girlfriend in HS to have an abortion.

He is rotten.

 

[Seymour Flops]

He is said to having an affair with his brother's wife, he is pretending to be very religious.

At least Hunter Biden doesn't pretend to be religious, I'll give him that.

 

[sealybobo]

Might as well keep it in the family. I suspect his has dated his wife was pg and she had an abortion in HS, even though
He is now against abortion. He hasn't been indicted yet.
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According to The Detroit News, the woman’s lawyer alleges that “the sexual abuse began when she was 15,” which would be a crime, and claimed that Chatfield “manipulated” the woman through their Michigan church.

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might as well keep it in the family. He is said to having an affair with his brother's wife, he is pretending to be very religious.

I hope you don't mind me bumping your old thread with an update. Thought you'd enjoy this

https://www.michiganpublic.org/politics-government/2024-04-16/former-michigan-house-leader-lee-chatfield-charged-with-financial-crimes-for-misuse-of-political-funds

Former Michigan House leader Lee Chatfield charged with financial crimes for misuse of political funds​

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Prosecutors charged the former leader of the Michigan House and his wife with financial crimes Tuesday, alleging they milked political accounts for personal travel, housing, and other benefits while the Republican lawmaker held the powerful post.

You can't trust Republicans

 

[sealybobo]

At least Hunter Biden doesn't pretend to be religious, I'll give him that.

Trump does.

 

[sealybobo]

Might as well keep it in the family. I suspect his has dated his wife was pg and she had an abortion in HS, even though
He is now against abortion. He hasn't been indicted yet.
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According to The Detroit News, the woman’s lawyer alleges that “the sexual abuse began when she was 15,” which would be a crime, and claimed that Chatfield “manipulated” the woman through their Michigan church.

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might as well keep it in the family. He is said to having an affair with his brother's wife, he is pretending to be very religious.

If the media is liberal, how come I didn't hear one thing about this corrupt Republican in Michigan? I live in Michigan and I just stumbled on this news about this guy?

 

[hadit]

If the media is liberal, how come I didn't hear one thing about this corrupt Republican in Michigan? I live in Michigan and I just stumbled on this news about this guy?

Maybe because you're more obsessed with Republicans than other people? Asking for a friend.

 

[surada]

If the media is liberal, how come I didn't hear one thing about this corrupt Republican in Michigan? I live in Michigan and I just stumbled on this news about this guy?

Attorney General Nessel Charges Former State House Speaker Lee Chatfield with 13 Felonies, Conducting a Criminal Enterprise
April 16, 2024

https://www.michigan.gov/ag/news/press-releases/2024/04/16/attorney-general-nessel-charges-former-state-house-speaker-lee-chatfield

 

[sealybobo]

Maybe because you're more obsessed with Republicans than other people? Asking for a friend.

Well I've been studying politics closely for 44 years I know I hate that party. Even as I get richer and closer to retirement, I hate them. I hear on these boards 20-30% cuts to social security. I hear Republicans talk about cuts to medicare. I hear Republicans want to allow insurance companies to deny us for pre existing conditions.

Trump is so full of shit. Did you hear the other day he wants to cap credit card companies at 10%? No he doesn't. It's just a brilliant thing to say to voters who are in debt.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/24/trump-credit-card-interest-cap-election-harris.html

 

[hadit]

Well I've been studying politics closely for 44 years I know I hate that party. Even as I get richer and closer to retirement, I hate them. I hear on these boards 20-30% cuts to social security.

If we want SS to stay solvent, we have to either cut benefits or raise taxes on the people still working to pay for all the retirees that are going to be getting what they were promised and paid into. I don't see how we expect the program to simply keep operating at a big loss.

I hear Republicans talk about cuts to medicare.

Again, if you want the program to remain solvent, you have to either tax more or cut benefits.

I hear Republicans want to allow insurance companies to deny us for pre existing conditions.

Without that, it's not insurance because everyone would just wait until they got sick, sign up for insurance and only THEN start paying. It would jack insurance rates through the roof. There are ways around it that we don't have to get into, but you have to operate on a much deeper level than just feelz.

Trump is so full of shit. Did you hear the other day he wants to cap credit card companies at 10%? No he doesn't. It's just a brilliant thing to say to voters who are in debt.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/24/trump-credit-card-interest-cap-election-harris.html

To summarize, you hate people you've never met who have done nothing to harm you, and you REALLY hate TRUMP!, even though, again, you've never met him and he's never hurt you. Don't you think that's a little obsessive? Ease up and enjoy life for a change.

 

[sealybobo]

If we want SS to stay solvent, we have to either cut benefits or raise taxes on the people still working to pay for all the retirees that are going to be getting what they were promised and paid into. I don't see how we expect the program to simply keep operating at a big loss.

Again, if you want the program to remain solvent, you have to either tax more or cut benefits.

Without that, it's not insurance because everyone would just wait until they got sick, sign up for insurance and only THEN start paying. It would jack insurance rates through the roof. There are ways around it that we don't have to get into, but you have to operate on a much deeper level than just feelz.

To summarize, you hate people you've never met who have done nothing to harm you, and you REALLY hate TRUMP!, even though, again, you've never met him and he's never hurt you. Don't you think that's a little obsessive? Ease up and enjoy life for a change.

Raise taxes on people already working. CEO's who make 1322% more than they did in 1978. Anyone making over $400,000 a year.

AND, pretend Afghanistan hit us and you want us to go to war with Iraq. Pretend that happened again. Take the money you gave to Haloburton and put it in social security.

Also, both parties have "borrowed" from the fund. Put it back.

Stop giving current seniors COLA increases. Why do they keep doing this now if what you say is true?

 

[whitehall]

It's only bad hen republicans are accused? Who can Biden's daughter go to when the entire democrat party claims her diary is a fake?

 

[hadit]

Raise taxes on people already working. CEO's who make 1322% more than they did in 1978. Anyone making over $400,000 a year.

You won't get nearly enough to cover the SS and Medicare deficits, but it would increase revenue a bit until the wealthy move it out of reach again. Of course, Congress would just spend it on other stuff, but whatever.

AND, pretend Afghanistan hit us and you want us to go to war with Iraq. Pretend that happened again.

Okay, so you advocate starting another war that would do what, reduce the number or working people contributing to the system?

Take the money you gave to Haloburton and put it in social security.

How much was "given" to Haliburton and what other companies could have provided the services they did? Do a little research. Again, there's going to be a BIG shortfall and nothing you've prescribed will cover it.

Also, both parties have "borrowed" from the fund. Put it back.

They've borrowed from it because, by law, any SS surplus MUST be invested in Treasury bonds, which then of course means that Congress gets to spend it, which they do.

Stop giving current seniors COLA increases. Why do they keep doing this now if what you say is true?

1. Because the cost of living keeps going up. Would you deny seniors totally dependent on SS the means to survive Biden inflation?
2. Because said seniors vote in large numbers.

 

[sealybobo]

It's only bad hen republicans are accused? Who can Biden's daughter go to when the entire democrat party claims her diary is a fake?

Even Trump knows whatever they say was in Ashley's diary can't be trusted. Just like he doesn't trust the info in the Epstein files.

Trump was asked in an interview on "Fox & Friends Weekend" whether he'd "declassify the Epstein files" if he was re-elected, and indicated he had concerns about doing so.

He initially said, "Yeah, I would," before hedging. "I guess I would. I think that less so because you don’t want to affect people’s lives if it’s phony stuff in there, because it’s a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would," Trump said.

 

[sealybobo]

You won't get nearly enough to cover the SS and Medicare deficits, but it would increase revenue a bit until the wealthy move it out of reach again. Of course, Congress would just spend it on other stuff, but whatever.

Okay, so you advocate starting another war that would do what, reduce the number or working people contributing to the system?

How much was "given" to Haliburton and what other companies could have provided the services they did? Do a little research. Again, there's going to be a BIG shortfall and nothing you've prescribed will cover it.

They've borrowed from it because, by law, any SS surplus MUST be invested in Treasury bonds, which then of course means that Congress gets to spend it, which they do.

1. Because the cost of living keeps going up. Would you deny seniors totally dependent on SS the means to survive Biden inflation?
2. Because said seniors vote in large numbers.

Reagan raised my full retirement age to 67 back in the 80's. Raise retirement age to 70 for young people. If boomers can do that to me, I can do that to millenials.

We have plenty of money. Fill up the fund *****. Don't bend over and take it you little *****. What are you rich?

 

[hadit]

Reagan raised my full retirement age to 67 back in the 80's. Raise retirement age to 70 for young people. If boomers can do that to me, I can do that to millenials.

Of course we should raise the retirement age for non-physical labor. That's not even really controversial.

We have plenty of money. Fill up the fund *****. Don't bend over and take it you little *****. What are you rich?

I'm a realist. Do nothing and the funds dry up. All of a sudden there's billions that need to come out of the general fund.

 

[sealybobo]

Of course we should raise the retirement age for non-physical labor. That's not even really controversial.

I'm a realist. Do nothing and the funds dry up. All of a sudden there's billions that need to come out of the general fund.

Oh I'm sure when the time comes you'll bend over and take it. Talk about a tax increase. Only instead of raising your taxes they'll cut your social security 20%? That's like $400 a month. What a chump you are if you would accept that. What a *****.

I'll go to that insurrection. Not for Trump losing an election. I'll go insurrect if they steal $400 on average from all of us. Then I'll go chant "hang Mike Johnson"

$400 a month x 12 months is $4800 a year you're willing to give up? Wow are you patriotic as ****. You really are a house n*#Er

 

[hadit]

Oh I'm sure when the time comes you'll bend over and take it. Talk about a tax increase. Only instead of raising your taxes they'll cut your social security 20%? That's like $400 a month. What a chump you are if you would accept that. What a *****.

What choice will you have when the checks get smaller? You say you won't accept it, what exactly are you going to do, write bigger numbers on the checks? That doesn't work, in case you're wondering.

I'll go to that insurrection. Not for Trump losing an election. I'll go insurrect if they steal $400 on average from all of us. Then I'll go chant "hang Mike Johnson"

Ohhhh, you'll insurrect. How very noble of you, finding something that worth overthrowing the government over. What will you do when your check goes from small to zero?

$400 a month x 12 months is $4800 a year you're willing to give up? Wow are you patriotic as ****. You really are a house n*#Er

Wow, you really are angry. You really need to talk to someone about that.