Lay the blame on Hussien Obama

[miketx]

Now the way is free for the US to join the real war on terror.

Like Bush?

Yeah we liked Bush, but we're not talking about that. Try to keep up, dim.

 

[Brynmr]

Whore got exactly what she deserves, IMO.

Not quite yet. Special prosecutor...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

This was a total rejection of the Hussien Obama presidency. And Hillary was stupid enough to embrace him.

Yeah, she embraced him when his popularity rose in the polls, after slicing his ass up in '08 and prior to her official campaign launch, when his numbers were in the tank while ISIS was spreading rapidly.

Obama and demagoguery definitely have a place in this however. Obamacare, 'with you or without you', 'elections have consequences' and on and on and on.

His hubris and disregard for anyone that disagreed with his agenda spread to the rest of the left and they ignored the fact that a huge number of Americans did not agree with his/their agenda.

They thought they had the numbers to steamroll those people yet again and marginalize them permanently in this country and were dancing in glee at the prospect of doing exactly that, breaking any and all rules as they thought appropriate, safe in their comfy nests of rectitude and self-righteousness.

That miscalculation has come home to bite them squarely in the ass. Part of me wants to see those people's heads shoved in toilets for the next 4 years, as I think some of those fucking assholes deserve it in spades, but the larger part says we need to learn from their mistakes, realize we are a deeply divided nation and figure out a way to make this country actually work. Unfortunately, I doubt swirlies will help that along....

I found it hard to believe that even after the polls were indicating that a record number of Americans - 70% were dissatisfied with where we are heading and we are on the wrong track, she basically announced that her agenda is a continuation of the Obama agenda. Huge miscalculation.

I did too, but she's such a whore that she eagerly jumped right into his arms when the polls told her to. If his approval numbers had been bad she'd have been kicking him squarely in the balls for the last 3 months.

Whore got exactly what she deserves, IMO.

I dont believe his approval numbers were anymore accurate than the poll numbers.
All bullshit made up by the media.

 

[Brain357]

I don't really like arming anyone we don't know so I don't disagree there. But isn't Russia already bombing them? Will us spending $ and possibly lives really help? Who does Israel want to win over there?

Yeah, the Russians provide massive air support to Syrian forces. But how is that an argument? It is not a Russian mess they are cleaning up but an American. And by all standards, aren´t this groups a major threat to the local people and also to the people everywhere?

I believe all the bombing has also been quite a threat to the locals. I'm not sure more bombing will make things better.

If you get into it and realize there are millions of refugees, you´d also realize there aren´t many civilians in the war zones which have been largely the same for years. There are exceptions like Aleppo but claims that Syria and Russia are bombing the civilians there are untrue. Since the army tightens the belt around eastern Aleppo, there have been no more air strikes.
ISIS, Nusra and co are very mobile forces and need to be bombed on their travels. This is were the US can certainly be a big help.

We will see. Victories in this sort of thing are hard to come by. I think Russia expected it to be over by now. The people we abandon will immediately hate us. I'm with Ron Paul on foreign policy. The more we do the worse things seem to get.

US allies need to calm down. Many threats, like the North Korean, aren´t there.
Please let me get into some details here. You don´t have to love North Korea but should know some facts.

Fact 1:
North Korea gave up on their nuclear program in a deal with the Obama administration in 2012. Obama didn´t deliver the promised food and North Korea relaunched its nuclear program.

Fact 2:
You cannot properly deal with someone you aren´t listening to. North Korea feels threatened by nuclear B-52 bombers flying into its airspace.
North Korea clearly stressed it would not be the first to use nuclear weapons.

I mean, help them to overcome the food crisis and things will improve. Keep on posing threats to them and things will get worse.

The first policy should be: No response to no threat.

But aren't they just intimidating for free things? North Korea didn't come up much in debates, what does trump say?

 

[Brain357]

Whore got exactly what she deserves, IMO.

Not quite yet. Special prosecutor...

Yes let's be just like hitler and jail political rivals. Very American.

 

[Roudy]

This was a total rejection of the Hussien Obama presidency. And Hillary was stupid enough to embrace him.

Yeah, she embraced him when his popularity rose in the polls, after slicing his ass up in '08 and prior to her official campaign launch, when his numbers were in the tank while ISIS was spreading rapidly.

Obama and demagoguery definitely have a place in this however. Obamacare, 'with you or without you', 'elections have consequences' and on and on and on.

His hubris and disregard for anyone that disagreed with his agenda spread to the rest of the left and they ignored the fact that a huge number of Americans did not agree with his/their agenda.

They thought they had the numbers to steamroll those people yet again and marginalize them permanently in this country and were dancing in glee at the prospect of doing exactly that, breaking any and all rules as they thought appropriate, safe in their comfy nests of rectitude and self-righteousness.

That miscalculation has come home to bite them squarely in the ass. Part of me wants to see those people's heads shoved in toilets for the next 4 years, as I think some of those fucking assholes deserve it in spades, but the larger part says we need to learn from their mistakes, realize we are a deeply divided nation and figure out a way to make this country actually work. Unfortunately, I doubt swirlies will help that along....

I found it hard to believe that even after the polls were indicating that a record number of Americans - 70% were dissatisfied with where we are heading and we are on the wrong track, she basically announced that her agenda is a continuation of the Obama agenda. Huge miscalculation.

I did too, but she's such a whore that she eagerly jumped right into his arms when the polls told her to. If his approval numbers had been bad she'd have been kicking him squarely in the balls for the last 3 months.

Whore got exactly what she deserves, IMO.

She was stupid enough to think that he could rally the so called "Obama coalition" of blacks, women, and working class whites to vote for Hillary. Problem is most of them ended up voting for Trump. Also, Trump was very smart by devising a strategy to appeal to the disenfranchised Sander's voters in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Wisconsin.

 

[Roudy]

This was a total rejection of the Hussien Obama presidency. And Hillary was stupid enough to embrace him.

Yeah, she embraced him when his popularity rose in the polls, after slicing his ass up in '08 and prior to her official campaign launch, when his numbers were in the tank while ISIS was spreading rapidly.

Obama and demagoguery definitely have a place in this however. Obamacare, 'with you or without you', 'elections have consequences' and on and on and on.

His hubris and disregard for anyone that disagreed with his agenda spread to the rest of the left and they ignored the fact that a huge number of Americans did not agree with his/their agenda.

They thought they had the numbers to steamroll those people yet again and marginalize them permanently in this country and were dancing in glee at the prospect of doing exactly that, breaking any and all rules as they thought appropriate, safe in their comfy nests of rectitude and self-righteousness.

That miscalculation has come home to bite them squarely in the ass. Part of me wants to see those people's heads shoved in toilets for the next 4 years, as I think some of those fucking assholes deserve it in spades, but the larger part says we need to learn from their mistakes, realize we are a deeply divided nation and figure out a way to make this country actually work. Unfortunately, I doubt swirlies will help that along....

I found it hard to believe that even after the polls were indicating that a record number of Americans - 70% were dissatisfied with where we are heading and we are on the wrong track, she basically announced that her agenda is a continuation of the Obama agenda. Huge miscalculation.

I did too, but she's such a whore that she eagerly jumped right into his arms when the polls told her to. If his approval numbers had been bad she'd have been kicking him squarely in the balls for the last 3 months.

Whore got exactly what she deserves, IMO.

I dont believe his approval numbers were anymore accurate than the poll numbers.
All bullshit made up by the media.

Correct. Obama's approval numbers were probably in the 30's, which would perfectly explain the results. The crooked dishonest media was too obsessed with lying about the fake legacy of the black president.

 

[Bleipriester]

But aren't they just intimidating for free things?

No and yes. The explanation needs more details to be examined.
At first, like South Korea and Japan but not to the same extend, North Korea has a high population density and little space for agriculture. The need for food imports is obvious, the more so as the country is entirely on its own regarding development and production of agricultural equipment. But three factors make it hard to get food:

- The socialist currency is of no value in capitalist countries
- The major North Korean companies suffer from international sanctions and have little to no forex income. No doubt, North Korea is capable of offering first class goods (example: North Korean Precision Manufacturing Develops Computer Numerical Control (CNC) | Korea IT Times)
- China, the only ally, itself is busy to provide enough food for its own population, food exports to North Korea are limited

So in case of a shortage all the government can do is to ask for food, for example via its embassies. One could argue why isn´t the government resigning to solve the crisis but also why is the international community insisting on conditions. After all, it is the ordinary citizens who pay for the tensions which are completely baseless.

North Korea didn't come up much in debates, what does trump say?

You can read it here:
Transcript: Donald Trump Expounds on His Foreign Policy Views

 

[Roudy]

Yawn, take your bullshit to a more relevant thread.