“Law fare” of the anti-gun extremists…

[JoeB131]

Your stats only go to 2014. Did you read it or are you intentionally trying to deceive?

Something more current:

It's behind a paywall, so doesn't count.

Might have a bit to do with this:

When you start calling those of us who don't want to share our streets with gun-toting lunatics "extremists", you don't have much of a case.

 

[2aguy]

It's behind a paywall, so doesn't count.



When you start calling those of us who don't want to share our streets with gun-toting lunatics "extremists", you don't have much of a case.

The slave rapist party you vote for, the democrat party, is the political party putting gun toting, violent felons back on the street over and over again in the cities the democrat party controls....

 

[JoeB131]

The slave rapist party you vote for, the democrat party, is the political party putting gun toting, violent felons back on the street over and over again in the cities the democrat party controls....

Uh, most active shooter events don't happen in big cities...
They happen in small towns - Uvalde, Newtown, Highland Park.

Get real.

 

[2aguy]

Uh, most active shooter events don't happen in big cities...
They happen in small towns - Uvalde, Newtown, Highland Park.

Get real.

12…..12 mass public shooting attacks in 2022.

74 killed…..

People murdered in democrat party controlled cities in 2022 by the criminals they keep releasing?

19,000

The democrat party is the problem….

You vote for the actual party of slave raping, and that party is responsible for over 95% of the gun murder in this country……

 

[JoeB131]

12…..12 mass public shooting attacks in 2022.

695 Mass shootings.

A Mass shooting defined as any incident where more than one person is killed or wounded.

 

[Bell Huey]

It's behind a paywall, so doesn't count.

Doesn’t change the fact that your stats only go to 2014.

My link is not behind a paywall. Try another excuse, gunophobe.

 

[JoeB131]

Doesn’t change the fact that your stats only go to 2014.

My link is not behind a paywall. Try another excuse, gunophobe.

Yes it is...
Also, Statista is a crap site.

 

[Bell Huey]

Yes it is...
Also, Statista is a crap site.

The month of April 2023 has claimed third place in volume of firearm sales for April, dwarfed only by the record-setting pace set during the pandemic and accompanying widespread social unrest. It also marked the 45th month in a row that saw more than 1 million firearm purchases reflected in the number of National Instant Criminal Background Checks (NICS) processed by the FBI.

An Official Journal Of The NRA | April 2023 Is Third-Highest Gun Sales Month On Record

The month of April 2023 has claimed third place in volume of firearm sales for April, dwarfed only by the record-setting pace set during the pandemic and accompanying widespread social unrest. It also marked the 45th month in a row that saw more than 1 million firearm purchases reflected in the...

www.americanrifleman.org

You have anything newer than 2014?

 

[JoeB131]

The month of April 2023 has claimed third place in volume of firearm sales for April,

No one cares, has nothing to do with my point.

 

[2aguy]

695 Mass shootings.

A Mass shooting defined as any incident where more than one person is killed or wounded.

Nope....gang bangers killing each other is not the same thing as an individual walking into a public place to murder people.....not the same crime at all......but since the democrat party and it's policies create the 19,000 gun murders in the cities they control, and actual mass public shootings only happened 12 times in 2022....12 people out of over 350 million...you have to lie to push up your numbers....

 

[Bell Huey]

No one cares, has nothing to do with my point.

Your point is using stats from 2014.

 

[Failzero]

Allow 6-8 Million Illegals & Refugees & Visa Overstayers In then Disarm Americans

 

[JoeB131]

Nope....gang bangers killing each other is not the same thing as an individual walking into a public place to murder people.....not the same crime at all......but since the democrat party and it's policies create the 19,000 gun murders in the cities they control, and actual mass public shootings only happened 12 times in 2022....12 people out of over 350 million...you have to lie to push up your numbers....

Nope... mass shooting is when more than one person gets shot. This isn't even complicated.

And the 19,000 regular gun murders happen in rural and suburban areas as well as urban ones.

 

[Failzero]

Mass shooting is 4 or more shot

 

[Bell Huey]

Nope... mass shooting is when more than one person gets shot. This isn't even complicated.

And the 19,000 regular gun murders happen in rural and suburban areas as well as urban ones.

Wow, that’s new.

Some say 3, others sat 4 deaths.

What is a Mass Shooting? What can be done? | Department of Criminology

crim.sas.upenn.edu

These formulations are certainly workable, but the threshold of 4 or more deaths is arbitrary. There are also important exclusions. For example, if 10 people are shot but only 2 die, the incident is not a mass shooting

 

[PredFan]

The movie “The Devil’s Advocate,” explained this…….the law gets these evil people into everything……..the anti-gun extremists are using the legal system to attack our Right to own and carry guns. The suing of innocent people who obeyed the law is simply evil…but then, when have leftists been anything other than evil totalitarians………


The Biden administration has already put nearly 2,000 gun sellers out of business in just two years. Just a few years ago, a lawsuit helped drive the 200-year-old Remington Arms into bankruptcy. But activists won’t stop suing gun shops and anyone else that comes close to the industry.
———-
Everytown for Gun Safety, filed a lawsuit against a shop that sold the gun used in the fatal shooting of 10 people at a grocery store in Buffalo, New York
——-
Psychiatrists had previously evaluated the shooter without finding him to be a danger to himself or others — which is nothing unusual. Half of the mass public shooters since 1998 had seen mental health professionals. But if trained mental health professionals couldn’t realize this man was so dangerous, it’s hard to blame the parents. It certainly doesn’t make sense to sue them.

Unfortunately, lawsuits, such as this one by interest groups like Everytown, are more interested in punishing people they oppose or causing others to change their behavior in desired ways than seeking the truth. With billionaire Michael Bloomberg’s deep pockets, Everytown does not worry about funding its lawsuits. The same can’t be said for their targets, such as a small gun store. Social media companies aren’t going to be bankrupted by the lawsuits, but they may be even more likely to censor material that gun-control groups such as Everytown dislike.

No, Gun-Control Groups Don't Care What Causes Mass Shootings

The lessons from the Buffalo shooting are right in the killer’s manifesto, but gun-control groups like Everytown don't care.

thefederalist.com

Truth.

Get your guns now, stock up on ammo, take care of them, pass them down to your children.

 

[JoeB131]

Wow, that’s new.

Some say 3, others sat 4 deaths.

Not really... that's how most sensible people count them. If more than one person is shot, it's a mass shooting.

The problem is, you need a mass shooting with 4 or more deaths before the media even pays attention. And of course, the guy who shoots his wife over the burnt pot roast doesn't even register.

 

[M14 Shooter]

These formulations are certainly workable, but the threshold of 4 or more deaths is arbitrary. There are also important exclusions. For example, if 10 people are shot but only 2 die, the incident is not a mass shooting

According to the Democrats and their allies, the mainstream media, a mass shooting is 4+ people shot.
That's how they get "more than 400 mass shootings so far this year".

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/...cefeabae077&return_href=reports/mass-shooting

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/politics/us-400-mass-shootings/index.html

Under this definition, an average of 1.06 people die in any given mass hooting; in 44% of mass shootings, no one dies.
Oh, and, so far this year,in 485 mass shootings, 5 AR15s were used to kill 27 people

"Weapon of choice for mass shootings"? A lie.
We need to ban AR15s!!" A lie.


Oh... 2022:
Total mass shootings: 636
Total killed, mass shootings: 660
Average killed per shooting: 1.04

 

[Bell Huey]

Not really... that's how most sensible people count them. If more than one person is shot, it's a mass shooting.

The problem is, you need a mass shooting with 4 or more deaths before the media even pays attention. And of course, the guy who shoots his wife over the burnt pot roast doesn't even register.

So your argument is the University of PA’s criminology department is wrong.

Got it. I see a trend with you. Anything that refutes your claims is wrong.

 

[2aguy]

Nope... mass shooting is when more than one person gets shot. This isn't even complicated.

And the 19,000 regular gun murders happen in rural and suburban areas as well as urban ones.

Nope........you are wrong on all counts....

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • 
    
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



-==============
===============

The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

School shootings...

2022.....1
2021....1
2020....0
2019....0
2018.....2
2017....0
2016...0
2015....1 (community college)
2014...1
2013.....0
2012....2
2011....0
2010...0


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8