‘Law enforcement is a sickness’ to be ‘eradicated,’ says enraged Chicago mayor
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How about doing a little research before you make yourself look stupider than you are?
The United States inherited England’s Anglo-Saxon common law and its system of social obligation, sheriffs, constables, watchmen, and stipendiary justice. As both societies became less rural and agrarian and more urban and industrialized, crime, riots, and other public disturbances became more common. Yet Americans, like the English, were wary of creating standing police forces. Among the first public police forces established in colonial North America were the watchmen organized in Boston in 1631 and in New Amsterdam (later New York City) in 1647. Although watchmen were paid a fee in both Boston and New York, most officers in colonial America did not receive a salary but were paid by private citizens, as were their English counterparts.
In the frontier regions of the United States in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, there arose a novel form of the Saxon tradition of frankpledge: the vigilante. In areas where a formal justice system had yet to be established or the rudimentary policing apparatus had proved inadequate in the face of rampant crime, it was not uncommon for citizens (called “regulators”) to band together in “committees of vigilance” to combat crime and to introduce order where none existed. This socially constructive form of vigilantism—lawlessness on behalf of lawfulness—and the question of when and where it degenerated into rank mob rule have been popular topics in American historiography.
Beginning in the early 19th century, large numbers of immigrants from Germany and Ireland settled in the steadily growing urban centers of New York City and Boston. Their cultures and lifestyles initially offended the sensibilities of Americans whose families, mainly from England and The Netherlands, had settled in the country in the previous century or earlier. Indeed, the existence of large immigrant populations in the crowded cities of the East was perceived as a threat to the very fabric of American society. Eventually, the political, economic, and social dominance of Americans of English and Dutch extraction was eroded. Meanwhile, crime, rioting, and other disturbances became endemic in the cities.
The American response to growing urban unrest was twofold. Versions of the constable and night-watch system were tried, and voluntary citizens’ groups were encouraged to try to solve urban problems. Reformers distributed religious tracts and Bibles, started Sunday schools, created such organizations as the Young Men’s Christian Association, and presented themselves as moral exemplars to immigrants and the poor. By the mid-19th century, middle-class frustration with the deterioration of the cities had led to the passage of laws regulating public behavior and creating new public institutions of social control and coercion—penitentiaries, asylums, and police forces.
The first police department in the United States was established in New York City in 1844 (it was officially organized in 1845). Other cities soon followed suit: New Orleans and Cincinnati (Ohio) in 1852; Boston and Philadelphia in 1854; Chicago and Milwaukee (Wis.) in 1855; and Baltimore (Md.) and Newark (N.J.) in 1857. Those early departments all used the London Metropolitan Police as a model. Like the Metropolitan Police, American police were organized in a quasi-military command structure. Their main task was the prevention of crime and disorder, and they provided a wide array of other public services. There were no detectives..."
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“Jails and incarceration and law enforcement is a sickness that has not led to safe communities,” Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson declared during a fiery press conference Tuesday, adding that he intends to “eradicate” that sickness.
Johnson made the remarks after a reporter asked him about his administration’s public safety plan. During his diatribe, the mayor cited four years of Chicago murder data, beginning with the city’s record-setting 970 killings in 1974. He noted there were 828 murders in 1995, 778 in 2016, and 805 in 2021.
‘Law enforcement is a sickness’ to be 'eradicated,' says enraged Chicago mayor - CWB Chicago
“Jails and incarceration and law enforcement is a sickness that has not led to safe communities,” Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson declared during a fiery press conference Tuesday, adding that he intends to “eradicate” that sickness.cwbchicago.com
This is what's with Progressives
candycorn
Prove it or shut up.
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Prove what?
The quote from the mayor is correct.
“Jails and incarceration and law enforcement is a sickness that has not led to safe communities,”
Has it lead to safer communities? If it has...guys like you wouldn’t be having orgasms over violence in our cities while crying about violence in other places.
Has it lead to safe communities?
Prove it or shut up.
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I have called law enforcement, talked with law enforcement, been talked to by law enforcement. I feel very safe, but due to self protection, not because they will be here in 10 to 30 minutes.“Jails and incarceration and law enforcement is a sickness that has not led to safe communities,” Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson declared during a fiery press conference Tuesday, adding that he intends to “eradicate” that sickness.
Johnson made the remarks after a reporter asked him about his administration’s public safety plan. During his diatribe, the mayor cited four years of Chicago murder data, beginning with the city’s record-setting 970 killings in 1974. He noted there were 828 murders in 1995, 778 in 2016, and 805 in 2021.
‘Law enforcement is a sickness’ to be 'eradicated,' says enraged Chicago mayor - CWB Chicago
“Jails and incarceration and law enforcement is a sickness that has not led to safe communities,” Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson declared during a fiery press conference Tuesday, adding that he intends to “eradicate” that sickness.
This is what's with Progressives
I am in favor of mandatory bails to insure showing up for trial, but not set so high, only the rich can bond out, without risking their house and future. Failure to show, should add mandatory 10 year minimum sentence with no parole, even if found innocent on charges. IF they leave the state, automatic 10 years no parole, served in Federal prison, Fed expense, at hard labor. Criminals should be doing hard labor state projects for the duration of all sentences, with attempt to escape adding 20 years, no parole. I believe in long sentences. Parole boards should basically deny parole to all the first time, and probably the second and 3rd time, instead of releasing to free up space. Basically, I don't give a rats ass if those that choose crime ever get out. I favor Capital punishment, with quick appeals and first class execution, within 3 years of conviction, as these violent assholes do not deserve to be a long burden on society, and sentencing should lean toward protecting society from criminals. Oh, and restoration of voting rights after criminal conviction is bullshit. They prove they are not fit to make decisions in society, by their actions, and forfeit the right to be included with their decision to commit felony crime. But, that is just me, and of course, I have never been and will never be convicted of a felony crime, so I am BETTER than all the criminal asshole, that well deserve to be behind bars and stay behind bars, long term.
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Thats nice, get it all out of your system.
You still didn't explain how the mayor was wrong.
Of course its a fair question to ask of the mayor how he'd change things.
Yeah, right, a slave patrol by any other name...
Origins of the Boston Police Department: First In The Nation
The origins of the Boston Police Department can be traced back to 1631 with the formation of the first night watch..
These property owning white men “served and protected” the property of good white citizens and maintained a good Christian public peace.
Slavery was the business of the day, White men were not bound to respect any rights of any black man and Africa was in the middle of colonization and the raping of its natural resources….
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How about the past 150 odd years?
AMENDMENT XIII
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction
13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Abolition of Slavery (1865)
EnlargeDownload Link Citation: The House Joint Resolution Proposing the 13th Amendment to the Constitution, January 31, 1865; Enrolled Acts and Resolutions of Congress, 1789-1999; General Records of the United States Government; Record Group 11; National Archives. View All Pages in the National...
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Funny, I don't recall making that argument. I do recall asking you how he was wrong. You still haven't answered. How'd you get to be so dumb?
Lucky they had a watch, eh? I see there's a seven year gap in history.
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com › slave-trade-took-root-new-england
The slave trade probably started in Massachusetts on Feb. 28, 1638, when a slave ship arrived in Boston. Other colonies soon joined in the vile business.
On Feb. 28, 1638, the slave trade probably began in New England when a ship arrived in Massachusetts Bay from the West Indies. The Salem ship Desire carried enslaved Africans along with the other cargo of cotton and tobacco.
After a slow start, the slave trade would take root in New England. First it flourished in Massachusetts, then gained a toehold in coastal New Hampshire. Finally it dominated Rhode Island, which became the biggest slave market in the colonies.
How the Slave Trade Took Root in New England - New England Historical Society
The slave trade probably started in Massachusetts on Feb. 28, 1638, when a slave ship arrived in Boston. Other colonies soon joined in the vile business.
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