Latest on the Wagner 'Protest'

[Richard-H]

Kremlin warns of ‘high threat’ of nuclear sabotage by Ukraine

The threat of attempted Ukrainian sabotage of the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant is high, the Kremlin has claimed

www.rt.com

A high threat to the Nuclear power plant?

A very hard sell for the Ukraine to pin it on Russia?

And Europe takes the hit square on the nose if it happens!

And too, Putin will call it nuclear war and could react accordingly.ll

What do Americans think?

Isn't this plant protected by Russian troops?

If the Russians believe that Ukraine is planning on sabotage, and their troops let it happen, then Russian troops are really, really terrible soldiers.

If Russian troops are that bad, you might as well withdraw them because you got no chance of winning.

 

[Richard-H]

Most of what you posted is incorrect.

All of what you posted is incorrect.

 

[luiza]

MacGregor is an idiot.

Russia has been trying to take all of Ukraine for over a year now. If they could they would have done so already.

China has no intention of getting into a conflict with the U.S. The U.S. and Chinese economies are merged. China has no love for Russia and is happy to see Russia depleted in this war against Ukraine. China may take back outer Manchuria when the time is right.

The U.S. & NATO have no intention of defeating Russia. If we did we would have attacked in the 1990s. We want Russia to behave like a civilized country - not the barbaric behavior of the past year.

This war in Ukraine will eventually wear down Russia. The Russian people will remember how good peace was and get rid of the lunatic in the Kremlin.

Buffoonery from the first sentence . Why advance when you can sit on higher ground and decimate the enemy with a 10to 1 artillery advantage ? That leads to casualties in the same ratio and that is why Russia has obliterated two armies and is taking the third apart right now . Not understanding this simple and basic strategy is your downfall. Thye rest is garbled rheyoric -- some full of pious hope, the rest just factually nonsense . Try again . You could do better .

 

[Richard-H]

If you have any doubts about China's economy being merged with the U.S., not

Why China Buys U.S. Debt With Treasury Bonds

China and many other countries buy U.S. debt through the purchase of Treasury bonds, here are the factors behind those purchases.

www.investopedia.com

The People's Republic of China

U.S.-China Trade Facts U.S. goods and private services trade with China totaled $579 billion in 2012 (latest data available). Exports totaled $141 billion; Imports totaled $439 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with China was $298 billion in 2012.

ustr.gov

 

[Litwin]

Prigozhin

 

[ESay]

Isn't this plant protected by Russian troops?

If the Russians believe that Ukraine is planning on sabotage, and their troops let it happen, then Russian troops are really, really terrible soldiers.

If Russian troops are that bad, you might as well withdraw them because you got no chance of winning.

Strange, that Putin-boneheads here nevers asked such a question. Isn't it?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Author cites instances where this whole event was staged and Putin was the man behind the curtain.

Prigozhin would have had to be an idiot or suicidal to think that with 8,000 men he could invade Moscow. Yet Prigozhin is very smart man, a juvenile delinquent turned convict, then hot dog salesman, then CEO of a multi-million dollar catering business serving the Kremlin, to finally commander of the world's most formidable mercenary force. It is utterly implausible that Prigozhin thought that he could take on Rosgvardia, Russia's National Guard, a 340,000-strong domestic security force reporting directly Putin.

And then there was the footage of Prigozhin sitting a bench in Rostov-on-Don, bantering amiably with Russia's deputy minister of defense, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov and deputy head of the Russian military intelligence, the GRU, Lt. Gen. Vladimir Alekseyev. It was just too chummy for a true rebellion.
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The "coup" was staged. The only question is, why would Putin stage such an elaborate deception?

And the answer is politics. The Russian strongman is up for re-election on March 17, 2024. With no end in sight to the Russia-Ukraine war, Putin has to convince the Russians of the need to bear even more sacrifices in order to maintain popular support for the war in Ukraine. Putin achieved this by appealing to two primordial fears of the Russian people: invasion from the West and chaos.
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And the Russian media predictably cheered the dear leader for saving Mother Russia and "chasing away" the traitors.

Of course, what Russians view as strength—Putin was able to squash a major armed mutiny—Western media and Biden's "experts" interpreted as weakness. And this, too, is as Putin wants it. The perception in the West that he is weak and his military is incompetent suggests that the West need not provide so much assistance to Ukraine, a key goal of Putin's.
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Meanwhile, the Wagner Group has used its trip to Moscow to land itself in Belarus, which just received a gift of tactical nuclear weapons from Putin. This points to yet another potential goal of the false flag operation: opening a second front to Ukraine's north while directly threatening NATO's eastern flank with the weapons of Armageddon. This time, Putin is doing it with Russia's most effective fighting force.

The Wagner 'Coup' Was Staged by Putin—and the West Fell for It

Zelen$ky said for $8B he can get Wagner to stage a Coup AND a "stunning performance of 'A Chorus Line'"

 

[luiza]

Isn't this plant protected by Russian troops?

If the Russians believe that Ukraine is planning on sabotage, and their troops let it happen, then Russian troops are really, really terrible soldiers.

If Russian troops are that bad, you might as well withdraw them because you got no chance of winning.

The plant has been under Russian full control since the middle of last year . The US-Ukey Nazis can only attack it by planes ( basically they have none )or missiles used to drop radioactive waste that they have collected from another plant where they retain control . The latter is their assumed plan and of course the story about the reactor roof being mined by the Russians is standard propaganda and an explanation for what will appear to have happened if Kyiv ran a successful False Flag ------- that is , a story of Russia setting off explosions remotely after the Ukey third army has amazingly won its first success. So , DYOFR and stop inventing garbage

 

[Donald H]

Isn't this plant protected by Russian troops?

If the Russians believe that Ukraine is planning on sabotage, and their troops let it happen, then Russian troops are really, really terrible soldiers.

Buy a rubber mallet and bonk yourself on your head repeatedly. That comment from you clearly shows that nothing else is going to help.

Normal people would wonder if Russia could shoot down all the incoming.

Night, night Richard!

 

[Delldude]

Macgregor is the most credible source of information that's available and he's been willing to tell it all, regardless of the compromise to his country, for the higher cause.

MacGregor may be your most credible source but I know where he was getting his advice/intel when he was active:

REBEKAH KOFFLER is a Russian-born U.S. intelligence expert who served as a Russian Doctrine & Strategy specialist in the Defense Intelligence Agency. Working with the DIA and the CIA's National Clandestine Service, she has led "red" teams during war-games and advised senior Pentagon officials. She has delivered classified briefings to top U.S. military commanders, NATO ministers, the directors of the CIA and DIA, the White House National Security Council, and senior congressional staff.

Now back to choosing what flavour and how many scoops.

I think Joe likes vanilla with two scoops.

 

[Donald H]

The plant has been under Russian full control since the middle of last year . The US-Ukey Nazis can only attack it by planes ( basically they have none )or missiles used to drop radioactive waste that they have collected from another plant where they retain control . The latter is their assumed plan and of course the story about the reactor roof being mined by the Russians is standard propaganda and an explanation for what will appear to have happened if Kyiv ran a successful False Flag ------- that is , a story of Russia setting off explosions remotely after the Ukey third army has amazingly won its first success. So , DYOFR and stop inventing garbage

It's very unlikely to happen on account of American propagandists would have very little chance of selling it being done by Russia.

And the failure to sell the blame on Russia would dissolve Europe's support for the Ukraine, that they already desperately want out of anyway

Not to even need to mention Putin's threat of nuclear war as Russia's response.

 

[Litwin]

Isn't this plant protected by Russian troops?

If the Russians believe that Ukraine is planning on sabotage, and their troops let it happen, then Russian troops are really, really terrible soldiers.

If Russian troops are that bad, you might as well withdraw them because you got no chance of winning.

 

[Litwin]

 

[Richard-H]

The plant has been under Russian full control since the middle of last year . The US-Ukey Nazis can only attack it by planes ( basically they have none )or missiles used to drop radioactive waste that they have collected from another plant where they retain control . The latter is their assumed plan and of course the story about the reactor roof being mined by the Russians is standard propaganda and an explanation for what will appear to have happened if Kyiv ran a successful False Flag ------- that is , a story of Russia setting off explosions remotely after the Ukey third army has amazingly won its first success. So , DYOFR and stop inventing garbage

So according to you the Russians do not believe that the Ukrainians are going to sabotage the plant, correct? They Russians claim to believe that the Ukrainians are going to bomb it or hit it with missiles...so you changed your story when I showed how stupid it was.

Yet, it's obvious that the Ukrainians have nothing to gain from bombing the plant and the Russians have everything to gain, militarily, from bombing the plant.

Only an idiot would believe that the Ukrainians would bomb a Ukrainian nuclear facility.

 

[Richard-H]

Buy a rubber mallet and bonk yourself on your head repeatedly. That comment from you clearly shows that nothing else is going to help.

Normal people would wonder if Russia could shoot down all the incoming.

Night, night Richard!

If your stupid enough to believe that Ukrainians would blow up a Ukrainian nuclear plant, then smacking yourself in the head with a hammer could only raise your I.Q.

 

[Richard-H]

It's very unlikely to happen on account of American propagandists would have very little chance of selling it being done by Russia.

And the failure to sell the blame on Russia would dissolve Europe's support for the Ukraine, that they already desperately want out of anyway

Not to even need to mention Putin's threat of nuclear war as Russia's response.

No one will believe that Ukrainians would blow up a Ukrainian nuclear power plant - anymore than they believe that Ukrainians would destroy a dam and flood dozens of Ukrainian towns.

Only Russia has repeatedly shown a total lack of humanity since the beginning of this war. Only Russia is committing massive atrocities.

Nobody cares about Putin's threats to use nukes. We have more than enough nukes to insure that Russia is destroyed. The BIG difference is that American nukes will work.

Putin's threats to use nukes are an attempt to intimidate the people of the west into dropping support for Ukraine. That's not going to happen.

 

[luiza]

So according to you the Russians do not believe that the Ukrainians are going to sabotage the plant, correct?

Something wrong with you? Your words not mine . Sort out first what you want to say. Then put it in simple English so that YOU can later understand it. The intelligence suggestion is that you cannot demolish the whole power plant even if you wished -- too technical for here . But you could drop radioactive waste from another plant and at least for a few days create a world panic .Ideal background for a Vilnius presentation by the War Crimes Midget for extra everything to help defeat Moscow .

 

[Delldude]

New angle on Wagner in Belarus......if true, it would be an attack on NATO.

Putin Sent Wagner to Belarus to Prepare Attack on Poland: Russian Lawmaker​

Russian lawmaker Andrey Kartapolov suggested that President Vladimir Putin expelled the Wagner Group to Belarus to allegedly prepare for an attack against Poland during a recent appearance on Russian state television.

Putin sent Wagner to Belarus to prepare attack on Poland: Russian lawmaker

Wagner Group forces could take a key Polish region "in a matter of hours," MP Andrey Kartapolov recently alleged.

www.newsweek.com

 

[luiza]

New angle on Wagner in Belarus......if true, it would be an attack on NATO.

Putin Sent Wagner to Belarus to Prepare Attack on Poland: Russian Lawmaker​

Russian lawmaker Andrey Kartapolov suggested that President Vladimir Putin expelled the Wagner Group to Belarus to allegedly prepare for an attack against Poland during a recent appearance on Russian state television.

Fear mongering for the usual reasons .It is Poland building a force of any number up to haf a million ,depending on your source, that concerns Moscow . Belarus could also be a kicking off point for Russian troops to clear a way to Odessa and work with the Russian force moving east to west . The Kyiv "NATO" force is already on its last legs and, when mangled , there are no more reserves to stop Russia advancing , which might already have just started . So your post , in every probable sense, is 100% arse about face .

 

[Delldude]

So your post , in every probable sense, is 100% arse about face .

if true