L.A. Launches Nation's First Israel Divestment Campaign

[jillian]

Noam, Michael Moore and Tom Hayden are fellow travelers; however, Jimmy Carter is just another war criminal as far as Chomsky's concerned. (Carter's support for Indonesian war crimes in East Timor and Somoza's National Guard in Nicaragua.)

As far as supporting dictators and thugs, one trait that even most of his critics concede is Chomsky's absolute loyalty to the moral principle of universality.

If there's something you don't want done to you, don't inflict it on another.

Chomsky is just a language teacher. He is viewed as a crackpot in international affairs, in which he has no insight.

Tsk tsk, Georgie.

1. He has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.

2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use. Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?

damn, PC... I get a headache when i agree with you.

oh woe is me.

 

[georgephillip]

Noam, Michael Moore and Tom Hayden are fellow travelers; however, Jimmy Carter is just another war criminal as far as Chomsky's concerned. (Carter's support for Indonesian war crimes in East Timor and Somoza's National Guard in Nicaragua.)

As far as supporting dictators and thugs, one trait that even most of his critics concede is Chomsky's absolute loyalty to the moral principle of universality.

If there's something you don't want done to you, don't inflict it on another.

Chomsky is just a language teacher. He is viewed as a crackpot in international affairs, in which he has no insight.

Tsk tsk, Georgie.

1. He has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.

2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use. Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?

Why isn't Chomsky as rich as Oprah?
Anything to do with Truth to Power?

"Chomsky asserts that power, unless justified is inherently illegitimate and that the burden of proof is on those in authority.

"If this burden can't be met, the authority in question should be dismantled and authority for its own sake is inherently unjustified.

"An example given by Chomsky of a legitimate authority is that exerted by an adult to prevent a young child from wandering into traffic.[76]

"He contends that there isn't much difference between slavery and renting one's self to an owner or 'wage slavery'.

"He feels that it is an attack on personal integrity that undermines individual freedom. He holds that workers should own and control their workplace, a view held (as he notes) by the Lowell Mill Girls."

It's testimony to his genius that his outspoken condemnation of US foreign policy comes from an institution as close to the Pentagon as MIT.

"Chomsky has strongly criticized the foreign policy of the United States.

"He claims double standards in a foreign policy preaching democracy and freedom for all while allying itself with non-democratic and repressive organizations and states such as Chile under Augusto Pinochet and argues that this results in massive human rights violations.

"He often argues that America's intervention in foreign nations, including the secret aid given to the Contras in Nicaragua, an event of which he has been very critical, fits any standard description of terrorism,[78][dead link] including 'official definitions in the US Code and Army Manuals in the early 1980s.'[79][80]

"Before its collapse, Chomsky also condemned Soviet imperialism; for example in 1986 during a question/answer following a lecture he gave at Universidad Centroamericana in Nicaragua, when challenged about how he could 'talk about North American imperialism and Russian imperialism in the same breath,' Chomsky responded: 'One of the truths about the world is that there are two superpowers, one a huge power which happens to have its boot on your neck; another, a smaller power which happens to have its boot on other people's necks. I think that anyone in the Third World would be making a grave error if they succumbed to illusions about these matters.'"

Chomsky- Wiki

 

[Marc39]

The CIA's website is bogus?

No, how could that, possibly, be. But ... how did they succeed in effin' it all up recently ... go figure. Must be fears of fatwa on them.

as to Warren buffett opinion that " They feel good about a society that is on the move" most people would feel happy with Israeli society on the move..... back to Russia and Poland, where they came from

Funny drivel.

Ho-say thinks spies are hot

 

[Marc39]

The CIA's website is bogus?
as to Warren buffett opinion that " They feel good about a society that is on the move" most people would feel happy with Israeli society on the move..... back to Russia and Poland, where they came from

As the richest man in the world and one of the most admired, Warren Buffett's assessment of Israel is infinitely more relevant than that of an illiterate Spaniard who cleans toilets for a living and solicits sex on the internet, Ho-say.

Let us know when you make above the minimum wage.

 

[docmauser1]

Why isn't Chomsky as rich as Oprah? Anything to do with Truth to Power?

Or with tax evasion?

 

[Marc39]

back to Russia and Poland, where they came from

Jews came from Judea/Palestine 4000 yrs ago, Ho-Say. Open a book in-between cleaning toilets.

Pallies came from the dregs of Arabia thousands of years afterward.

Jerusalem is mentioned in the Old Testament 700 times.

Jerusalem is mentioned in the Quran zero times.

Even Allah knows...

Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Chomsky is just a language teacher. He is viewed as a crackpot in international affairs, in which he has no insight.

Tsk tsk, Georgie.

1. He has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.

2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use. Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?

Why isn't Chomsky as rich as Oprah?
Anything to do with Truth to Power?

"Chomsky asserts that power, unless justified is inherently illegitimate and that the burden of proof is on those in authority.

"If this burden can't be met, the authority in question should be dismantled and authority for its own sake is inherently unjustified.

"An example given by Chomsky of a legitimate authority is that exerted by an adult to prevent a young child from wandering into traffic.[76]

"He contends that there isn't much difference between slavery and renting one's self to an owner or 'wage slavery'.

"He feels that it is an attack on personal integrity that undermines individual freedom. He holds that workers should own and control their workplace, a view held (as he notes) by the Lowell Mill Girls."

It's testimony to his genius that his outspoken condemnation of US foreign policy comes from an institution as close to the Pentagon as MIT.

"Chomsky has strongly criticized the foreign policy of the United States.

"He claims double standards in a foreign policy preaching democracy and freedom for all while allying itself with non-democratic and repressive organizations and states such as Chile under Augusto Pinochet and argues that this results in massive human rights violations.

"He often argues that America's intervention in foreign nations, including the secret aid given to the Contras in Nicaragua, an event of which he has been very critical, fits any standard description of terrorism,[78][dead link] including 'official definitions in the US Code and Army Manuals in the early 1980s.'[79][80]

"Before its collapse, Chomsky also condemned Soviet imperialism; for example in 1986 during a question/answer following a lecture he gave at Universidad Centroamericana in Nicaragua, when challenged about how he could 'talk about North American imperialism and Russian imperialism in the same breath,' Chomsky responded: 'One of the truths about the world is that there are two superpowers, one a huge power which happens to have its boot on your neck; another, a smaller power which happens to have its boot on other people's necks. I think that anyone in the Third World would be making a grave error if they succumbed to illusions about these matters.'"

Chomsky- Wiki

Perhaps we should review the use of the term 'truth' in relation to Noam Chomsky...

1. A self-described admirer of the Black Panthers, who says that intellectuals must combat ‘all forms of racism,’ and complains that America excluded blacks from large parts of the country, owns a home in a town with a black population of 1.1% Bill Frezza, “A Lion in Winter,” The Tech (MIT student newspaper), February 20, 2004

2. In response to U.S. declarations of a War on Terrorism in 1981 and the redeclaration in 2001, Chomsky has argued that the major sources of international terrorism are the world's major powers, led by the United States. Politics of Noam Chomsky

3. Chomsky praised the North Vietnamese for their efforts in building material prosperity, social justice, and cultural progress. He also went on to discuss and support the political writing of Le Duan. [-Pacific Daily Report of the U.S. government's Foreign Broadcast Information Service, April 16, 1970, pages K2-K3]

4. And this hater of the capitalist system has a network of financial trusts to limit his tax accountability, and protect his assets, and while he disparages private property rights, he licenses his books and speeches.

 

[georgephillip]

1. He has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

a. He claims to be constantly threatened with censorship, while publishing dozens of books.

b. He denounces the Pentagon as the epitome of evil, while making million from his work for the very same institution. As a tenured MIT professor he actually works for the Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT, and same is entirely funded by the Pentagon and a few multinational corporations.

c. His first book, “Syntactic Structures,” was written with grants from the US Army (Signal Corp), the Air Force (Office of Scientific Research, Air Research, and Development Command), and Office of Naval Research.

2. A Professor of Linguistics, Chomsky is vital to the air force and others to improve their “increasingly large investment in so-called ‘command and control’ computer systems” that were being used in Vietnam. Since the computer cannot ‘understand’ English, the commanders’ communications must be translated into a language that the computer can use. Noam Chomsky: Politics or Science?

Why isn't Chomsky as rich as Oprah?
Anything to do with Truth to Power?

"Chomsky asserts that power, unless justified is inherently illegitimate and that the burden of proof is on those in authority.

"If this burden can't be met, the authority in question should be dismantled and authority for its own sake is inherently unjustified.

"An example given by Chomsky of a legitimate authority is that exerted by an adult to prevent a young child from wandering into traffic.[76]

"He contends that there isn't much difference between slavery and renting one's self to an owner or 'wage slavery'.

"He feels that it is an attack on personal integrity that undermines individual freedom. He holds that workers should own and control their workplace, a view held (as he notes) by the Lowell Mill Girls."

It's testimony to his genius that his outspoken condemnation of US foreign policy comes from an institution as close to the Pentagon as MIT.

"Chomsky has strongly criticized the foreign policy of the United States.

"He claims double standards in a foreign policy preaching democracy and freedom for all while allying itself with non-democratic and repressive organizations and states such as Chile under Augusto Pinochet and argues that this results in massive human rights violations.

"He often argues that America's intervention in foreign nations, including the secret aid given to the Contras in Nicaragua, an event of which he has been very critical, fits any standard description of terrorism,[78][dead link] including 'official definitions in the US Code and Army Manuals in the early 1980s.'[79][80]

"Before its collapse, Chomsky also condemned Soviet imperialism; for example in 1986 during a question/answer following a lecture he gave at Universidad Centroamericana in Nicaragua, when challenged about how he could 'talk about North American imperialism and Russian imperialism in the same breath,' Chomsky responded: 'One of the truths about the world is that there are two superpowers, one a huge power which happens to have its boot on your neck; another, a smaller power which happens to have its boot on other people's necks. I think that anyone in the Third World would be making a grave error if they succumbed to illusions about these matters.'"

Chomsky- Wiki

Perhaps we should review the use of the term 'truth' in relation to Noam Chomsky...

1. A self-described admirer of the Black Panthers, who says that intellectuals must combat ‘all forms of racism,’ and complains that America excluded blacks from large parts of the country, owns a home in a town with a black population of 1.1% Bill Frezza, “A Lion in Winter,” The Tech (MIT student newspaper), February 20, 2004

2. In response to U.S. declarations of a War on Terrorism in 1981 and the redeclaration in 2001, Chomsky has argued that the major sources of international terrorism are the world's major powers, led by the United States. Politics of Noam Chomsky

3. Chomsky praised the North Vietnamese for their efforts in building material prosperity, social justice, and cultural progress. He also went on to discuss and support the political writing of Le Duan. [-Pacific Daily Report of the U.S. government's Foreign Broadcast Information Service, April 16, 1970, pages K2-K3]

4. And this hater of the capitalist system has a network of financial trusts to limit his tax accountability, and protect his assets, and while he disparages private property rights, he licenses his books and speeches.

I didn't realize Noam's neighborhood was 98.9% non-black. I do recall Chomsky was jailed in Jim Crow Dixie marching for civil rights, something few, if any, of his conservative detractors took the time to participate in. Although many on the right were loud in their condemnations of those who did help end segregation in this country.

When he argues that the US in the preeminent terrorist on this planet, he has no shortage of history to back his claim.

Since 1945 the US military has killed millions of civilians thousands of miles from the homeland. Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Iraq the list grows longer by the minute.

Chomsky on the political uses of terrorism:

"The U.S. is officially committed to what is called 'low–intensity warfare.' That’s the official doctrine. If you read the definition of low–intensity conflict in army manuals and compare it with official definitions of 'terrorism' in army manuals, or the U.S. Code, you find they’re almost the same.

"Terrorism is the use of coercive means aimed at civilian populations in an effort to achieve political, religious, or other aims.

"That’s what the World Trade Center bombing was, a particularly horrifying terrorist crime. And that’s official doctrine. I mentioned a couple of examples. We could go on and on. It’s simply part of state action, not just the U.S. of course. Furthermore, all of these things should be well known. It’s shameful that they’re not.

"Anybody who wants to find out about them can begin by reading a collection of essays published ten years ago by a major publisher called Western State Terrorism, edited by Alex George (Routledge, 1991), which runs through lots and lots of cases.

"These are things people need to know if they want to understand anything about themselves. They are known by the victims, of course, but the perpetrators prefer to look elsewhere."

I'm not familiar with the writings of Le Duan, so I'll have to get back to you on that one.

Finally, Chomsky's "network of financial trusts" is hardest for me to understand. It's been reported he raised his speaker's fee in the aftermath of 911 in order to capitalize on a rise in demand for his opinion.

I still believe if he ever began spending winters in Pasadena the way Einstein did in the 30s and speaking for free around the LA basin he would reach millions of new listeners in a very short time.

Particularly if the US economy tanks completely from something like the unfolding MBS crisis. Timing is everything when it comes to authentic prophets speaking truth to power.

The United States is..

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why isn't Chomsky as rich as Oprah?
Anything to do with Truth to Power?

"Chomsky asserts that power, unless justified is inherently illegitimate and that the burden of proof is on those in authority.

"If this burden can't be met, the authority in question should be dismantled and authority for its own sake is inherently unjustified.

"An example given by Chomsky of a legitimate authority is that exerted by an adult to prevent a young child from wandering into traffic.[76]

"He contends that there isn't much difference between slavery and renting one's self to an owner or 'wage slavery'.

"He feels that it is an attack on personal integrity that undermines individual freedom. He holds that workers should own and control their workplace, a view held (as he notes) by the Lowell Mill Girls."

It's testimony to his genius that his outspoken condemnation of US foreign policy comes from an institution as close to the Pentagon as MIT.

"Chomsky has strongly criticized the foreign policy of the United States.

"He claims double standards in a foreign policy preaching democracy and freedom for all while allying itself with non-democratic and repressive organizations and states such as Chile under Augusto Pinochet and argues that this results in massive human rights violations.

"He often argues that America's intervention in foreign nations, including the secret aid given to the Contras in Nicaragua, an event of which he has been very critical, fits any standard description of terrorism,[78][dead link] including 'official definitions in the US Code and Army Manuals in the early 1980s.'[79][80]

"Before its collapse, Chomsky also condemned Soviet imperialism; for example in 1986 during a question/answer following a lecture he gave at Universidad Centroamericana in Nicaragua, when challenged about how he could 'talk about North American imperialism and Russian imperialism in the same breath,' Chomsky responded: 'One of the truths about the world is that there are two superpowers, one a huge power which happens to have its boot on your neck; another, a smaller power which happens to have its boot on other people's necks. I think that anyone in the Third World would be making a grave error if they succumbed to illusions about these matters.'"

Chomsky- Wiki

Perhaps we should review the use of the term 'truth' in relation to Noam Chomsky...

1. A self-described admirer of the Black Panthers, who says that intellectuals must combat ‘all forms of racism,’ and complains that America excluded blacks from large parts of the country, owns a home in a town with a black population of 1.1% Bill Frezza, “A Lion in Winter,” The Tech (MIT student newspaper), February 20, 2004

2. In response to U.S. declarations of a War on Terrorism in 1981 and the redeclaration in 2001, Chomsky has argued that the major sources of international terrorism are the world's major powers, led by the United States. Politics of Noam Chomsky

3. Chomsky praised the North Vietnamese for their efforts in building material prosperity, social justice, and cultural progress. He also went on to discuss and support the political writing of Le Duan. [-Pacific Daily Report of the U.S. government's Foreign Broadcast Information Service, April 16, 1970, pages K2-K3]

4. And this hater of the capitalist system has a network of financial trusts to limit his tax accountability, and protect his assets, and while he disparages private property rights, he licenses his books and speeches.

I didn't realize Noam's neighborhood was 98.9% non-black. I do recall Chomsky was jailed in Jim Crow Dixie marching for civil rights, something few, if any, of his conservative detractors took the time to participate in. Although many on the right were loud in their condemnations of those who did help end segregation in this country.

When he argues that the US in the preeminent terrorist on this planet, he has no shortage of history to back his claim.

Since 1945 the US military has killed millions of civilians thousands of miles from the homeland. Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Iraq the list grows longer by the minute.

Chomsky on the political uses of terrorism:

"The U.S. is officially committed to what is called 'low–intensity warfare.' That’s the official doctrine. If you read the definition of low–intensity conflict in army manuals and compare it with official definitions of 'terrorism' in army manuals, or the U.S. Code, you find they’re almost the same.

"Terrorism is the use of coercive means aimed at civilian populations in an effort to achieve political, religious, or other aims.

"That’s what the World Trade Center bombing was, a particularly horrifying terrorist crime. And that’s official doctrine. I mentioned a couple of examples. We could go on and on. It’s simply part of state action, not just the U.S. of course. Furthermore, all of these things should be well known. It’s shameful that they’re not.

"Anybody who wants to find out about them can begin by reading a collection of essays published ten years ago by a major publisher called Western State Terrorism, edited by Alex George (Routledge, 1991), which runs through lots and lots of cases.

"These are things people need to know if they want to understand anything about themselves. They are known by the victims, of course, but the perpetrators prefer to look elsewhere."

I'm not familiar with the writings of Le Duan, so I'll have to get back to you on that one.

Finally, Chomsky's "network of financial trusts" is hardest for me to understand. It's been reported he raised his speaker's fee in the aftermath of 911 in order to capitalize on a rise in demand for his opinion.

I still believe if he ever began spending winters in Pasadena the way Einstein did in the 30s and speaking for free around the LA basin he would reach millions of new listeners in a very short time.

Particularly if the US economy tanks completely from something like the unfolding MBS crisis. Timing is everything when it comes to authentic prophets speaking truth to power.

The United States is..

Now pay attention, and you will learn one of the major truths in this life, and it will help you in your dealings with other folks:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.

So, if our friend Noam tells you these things about capitalism, and America, yet has a huge stock portfolio, trusts, charges tons for speeches, and lives right here in the good old USA,...think you've been snookered?

Then again, there's none so blind as those who will not see.


But, I've read your posts in this thread, and you have yet to be right about any thing.

Carry on.

 

[georgephillip]

"Q: Your comment that the U.S. is a 'leading terrorist state' might stun many Americans. Could you elaborate on that?

A: I just gave one example, Nicaragua. The U.S. is the only country that was condemned for international terrorism by the World Court and that rejected a Security Council resolution calling on states to observe international law.

"It continues international terrorism. That example’s the least of it. And there are also what are in comparison, minor examples.

"Everybody here was quite properly outraged by the Oklahoma City bombing, and for a couple of days, the headlines all read, Oklahoma City looks like Beirut.

"I didn’t see anybody point out that Beirut also looks like Beirut, and part of the reason is that the Reagan Administration had set off a terrorist bombing there in 1985 that was very much like Oklahoma City, a truck bombing outside a mosque timed to kill the maximum number of people as they left. It killed eighty and wounded two hundred, aimed at a Muslim cleric whom they didn’t like and whom they missed.

"It was not very secret. I don’t know what name you give to the attack that’s killed maybe a million civilians in Iraq and maybe a half a million children, which is the price the Secretary of State says we’re willing to pay.

"Is there a name for that? Supporting Israeli atrocities is another one...

btw, any million$ Noam has earned from criticizing the capitalists pales beside what he could have earned on Wall Street.

The fact he also is not perfect doesn't mean he isn't right about US terror and its apologists. Are your eyes open yet?

The Unites States...

 

[Marc39]

Is there a name for that? Supporting Israeli atrocities is another one...

Supporting Pallie atrocities, Georgie, like Pallies killing their own children and wives....

"We Desire Death Like You Desire Life"
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INf4-DRJlUs[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

"As the Israeli 'matrix of control' tightened its grip on the occupied Palestinian territories, with peoples and land separated by the separation wall barriers, settler-only roads, and tunnels it became impossible to ignore the apartheid nature of Israel’s occupation.

"Palestinian citizens of Israel face some 20 laws that discriminate against them, much as Black Americans had been treated during the Jim Crow era.

"Palestinian refugees and exiles continue to be denied the right to return while Israel’s Law of Return enables Jews from anywhere in the world to settle in Israel.

"In 2006, the US Campaign Assembly overwhelmingly resolved to adopt the language of apartheid and Jim Crow segregation in describing Israeli policies towards Palestinians."

US Campaign..

 

[Marc39]

Palestinian citizens of Israel face some 20 laws that discriminate against them, much as Black Americans had been treated during the Jim Crow era

Uneducated Georgie, there are no Palestinian citizens of Israel. There are Israeli Arab citizens, but, not Palestinian citizens, since there has never been in history a country of Palestine.

All Israeli Arabs are constitutionally guaranteed equal rights.

Palestinians under Arab rule in Gaza and the West Bank are denied basic freedom, human rights and civil liberties, including a travel ban prohibiting them from even leaving without permission to do so.

Civil rights leader Reverend Malcolm Hedding, who fought apartheid in South Africa and who lives in Israel, today: Apartheid was a totalitarian system, not unlike many Arab regimes today.

Essentially, apartheid was a totalitarian system of governance – not unlike many of the regimes in the Arab world today. A white minority subjugated the overwhelmingly black population. It was ideologically driven and obsessed with racial superiority. The superior whites could not mingle with or even sit on a bench with the inferior black peoples. Even the education system was “dumbed down” for black people because they were deemed mentally inferior.

THERE IS absolutely nothing equivalent to this in the dispute between the Palestinians and Israel today. Within Israel itself, Arabs and Jews share the same shopping malls, benches, hospitals, theaters and, in many cases, suburbs. The educational institutions do not have a
deliberately “dumbed down” Arab curriculum and the privilege of voting is given to all. The Knesset has Arab members, and Jews, Arabs and Palestinians often work together at construction sites, businesses, hotels and elsewhere.

Most important of all is the fact that Israel is a democratic state. Not a perfect one, but it does have democratic institutions and is definitely not governed by a totalitarian minority! In the disputed territories, some 98 percent of the Palestinian Arab population now lives under the governance of their own Palestinian Authority, where they have the right to vote and change their leaders – at least theoretically. True, Israel has adopted security measures that curtail their movement, but these have been necessitated by the conflict and are legitimate acts of self-defense, rather than acts of racial discrimination

Expose ?apartheid? charge's real agenda

 

[docmauser1]

"As the Israeli 'matrix of control' tightened its grip on the occupied Palestinian territories, with peoples and land separated by the separation wall barriers, settler-only roads, and tunnels it became impossible to ignore the apartheid nature of Israel’s occupation.

1. If the laughable International Court of Justice isn't at all sure about occupation, I don't think we should oppress ourselves with it. Thumping occupation is a useless occupation.
2. We all know that, bypass roads and tunnels had been built to bypass paliban settlements and places, where paliban thugs shoot at jews. I don't think those roads are of any use to palibans, unless the latter plan some thuggery.
3. Walls. Morocco has built a 1500 km wall, enclosing the occupied territory, while most of the original inhabitants (saharawis) remain in refugee camps in west Algeria. Arabs, Spain, the US, Mexico can build walls, but jews can't. I find this one of the worst cases of discrimination against jews, of course.
4. Did I forget anything?

Palestinian citizens of Israel face some 20 laws that discriminate against them, much as Black Americans had been treated during the Jim Crow era.

Good. Let's review recent palisturdian storm after Abed Rabo said the PLO would recognize Israel "according to the formulation of the government within the hour", if Israel agreed to 1967 borders". Who were the most vocal and intimidating opponents to it? Israeli arab MPs, in particular, Barake of the Hadash party. It's very good to know that, israeli arabs oppose the creation of palistan and other leftoid peace ideas. Leftoids, though, preferred not to notice that, because paying attention to that is not politically correct. So, since those individuals and their constituency represent the 5-th column, it is perfectly justifiable. The best solution to avoid the time bomb, though, is the exchange of populations.

"Palestinian refugees and exiles continue to be denied the right to return while Israel’s Law of Return enables Jews from anywhere in the world to settle in Israel.

Well, there's that palistanian authority they can always return to. And that's another reason palisturdians do not want a state, or in other words, they want a state and a jewish one too. What an appetite.

"In 2006, the US Campaign Assembly overwhelmingly resolved to adopt the language of apartheid and Jim Crow segregation in describing Israeli policies towards Palestinians."

The "assembly" been passin' a joint of peace round.

 

[Marc39]

Quote: Originally Posted by georgephillip
Palestinian citizens of Israel face some 20 laws that discriminate against them, much as Black Americans had been treated during the Jim Crow era.

Israel is the only country in the Middle East with anti-racism laws in its penal code, strictly prohibiting any expressions or acts of racism and discrimination, punishable by imprisonment. In fact, one of the first to have been prosecuted under Israel's anti-racism laws was an Orthodox Jew. He was found guilty and the verdict was upheld on appeal by the Israeli Supreme Court.

The Arab and Muslims countries all discriminate against women, gays and non-Muslims.

Now, even you know, Jihadi Georgie.

 

[Marc39]

"As the Israeli 'matrix of control' tightened its grip on the occupied Palestinian territories, with peoples and land separated by the separation wall barriers, settler-only roads, and tunnels it became impossible to ignore the apartheid nature of Israel’s occupation.

There are no Palestinian territories. Pallies rejected statehood offered by the UN in 1947.

There are no Palestinians.

Arab commentator Azmi Bishara...

Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian nation at all. I think there is an Arab nation. I always thought so and I did not change my mind. I do not think there is a Palestinian nation, I think its a colonialist invention - Palestinian nation. When were there any Palestinians? Where did it come from? I think there is an Arab nation. I never turned to be a Palestinian nationalist, despite of my decisive struggle against the occupation. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of Greater Syria.

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[georgephillip]

"On Wednesday, September 8th, at a noon press conference in Los Angeles in front of the Israeli Consulate, the California Israel Divestment Campaign, a culturally diverse group of compassionate Americans announced the launch of California ballot initiative 10-0020 to require public employee systems to divest from certain business activities in Israel.

"In its first official announcement, the California Israel Divestment Campaign (IDC) delivered the following explanation:

“Although California has adopted policies requiring divestment from Sudan, Iran and other nations, this is the first ballot measure in the nation aimed at changing Israeli policies through divestment by State agencies.

"It directs California’s large public employee and teacher pension funds to be consistent with their responsible investing policies and to divest from companies that violate the human rights of Palestinians."

FLUSH apartheid Israel.

Los Angeles Launches

 

[Marc39]

"On Wednesday, September 8th, at a noon press conference in Los Angeles in front of the Israeli Consulate, the California Israel Divestment Campaign, a culturally diverse group of compassionate Americans announced the launch of California ballot initiative 10-0020 to require public employee systems to divest from certain business activities in Israel.

"In its first official announcement, the California Israel Divestment Campaign (IDC) delivered the following explanation:

“Although California has adopted policies requiring divestment from Sudan, Iran and other nations, this is the first ballot measure in the nation aimed at changing Israeli policies through divestment by State agencies.

"It directs California’s large public employee and teacher pension funds to be consistent with their responsible investing policies and to divest from companies that violate the human rights of Palestinians."

FLUSH apartheid Israel.

Los Angeles Launches

An Israeli solar power company built the largest solar park in the world in California, which provides much of California's electricity.
PG&E Signs Agreement With Solel for 553 Megawatts of Solar Power

Probably not a good idea for California to divest from Israel, right, Georgie girl?

LOL

 

[Marc39]

It directs California’s large public employee and teacher pension funds to be consistent with their responsible investing policies and to divest from companies that violate the human rights of Palestinians."

Lebanon is the biggest violator of the rights of Pallies, Jihadi Georgie. Can you provide links to your posts condemning Lebanon, Jihadi Georgie?

Human Rights Watch...

Lebanon has marginalized Palestinian refugees for too long," said Nadim Houry, Beirut director at Human Rights Watch. "Parliament should seize this opportunity to turn the page and end discrimination against Palestinians."

Lebanon's estimated 300,000 Palestinian refugees live in appalling social and economic conditions - most of them in crowded camps that lack essential infrastructure.

Lebanon: Seize Opportunity to End Discrimination Against Palestinians | Human Rights Watch

 

[Marc39]

Preferably Saudis, because Saudis are good, Jews is bad.

Ah I hope you are not implying I said that.

lol

Not you. It is interesting that people are up in arms about money going to Israel, and not a peep about funding going to Islamic organizations that possibly have connections to terrorists.

Like, for example, billions in US foreign aid to Afghanistan? Or, Pakistan? Or, Iraq? Or, Egypt? Or, Jordan? Or, or, or...