Kristi Noem under the bus

[rightwinger]

Noem was a known "exaggerator" before she was confirmed. No idea why anyone should be shocked that her pants are constantly in some state of spontaneous combustion.

She is the leader of DHS
Her response to a crisis should not be to spread lies about the victim being a domestic terrorist who was brandishing a gun

Noem cannot be trusted in investigating this shooting

 

[rightwinger]

MN is a den of thieves.
Trump knows that cleaning up the $billions of fraud helps his case in November.
Two idiots getting killed for being stupid is explainable by saying MN needs to stop being a sanctuary state, and needs to work with ICE instead of working against ICE.

Trump got himself into this crisis.
He and his party will pay a price in the 2026 election if his immigration policy is built around thuggery

 

[Seymour Flops]

She is the leader of DHS
Her response to a crisis should not be to spread lies about the victim being a domestic terrorist who was brandishing a gun

Noem cannot be trusted in investigating this shooting

The crises is being caused by armed domestic terrorists attacking law enforcement. Aided and pushed by Democrat elected officials spreading lies for political gain.

I take it your proposal to stop it is to give in to the demands of these terrorists?

What are those demand, exactly?

 

[kyzr]

Read what you wrote slowly.
You are blaming Pretti's death on a woman that blew a whistle at an ICE officer and pissed him off.
That's the kinds of people we want going out in armed squads? (Don't answer it was a rhetorical question.). WW

ICE agents were working to remove dangerous criminals from the community.
Two girls went up to about 2' from the ICE agents blowing whistles in their ears.
The ICE agents pushed the two girls out of the enforcement area and sprayed them.
I'm not saying that ICE did not overreact by being too rough with those girls, but Mr Pretti would not have engaged ICE and been shot if those two bimbos did not antagonize ICE and get sprayed.
Mr. Pretti should have stayed well back from ICE since he was carrying a concealed weapon. A fatal error.

So yes, I am blaming Mr Pretti's death on those two radical girls, and on the radical governor and mayor who oppose ICE enforcing Federal Law instead of working with ICE to remove dangerous criminals from the community safely.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The crises is being caused by armed domestic terrorists attacking law enforcement. Aided and pushed by Democrat elected officials spreading lies for political gain.

I take it your proposal to stop it is to give in to the demands of these terrorists?

What are those demand, exactly?

.

They are being busted at ICE Watch. Scattering like roaches. Talking about fleeing the country.

 

[kyzr]

Trump got himself into this crisis.
He and his party will pay a price in the 2026 election if his immigration policy is built around thuggery

You say "thuggery"
We say sanctuary cities and states are protecting violent criminals, putting citizens in danger, instead of working with ICE to remove criminals safely like in other states.

 

[eagle1462010]

The crises is being caused by armed domestic terrorists attacking law enforcement. Aided and pushed by Democrat elected officials spreading lies for political gain.

I take it your proposal to stop it is to give in to the demands of these terrorists?

What are those demand, exactly?

We DONT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORIST.

They can put their Demands and shove them where the Sun doesnt shine.

They use Fear and intimidation for politucal gain. Only thing missing is a towel wrapped around their head.

 

[rightwinger]

You say "thuggery"
We say sanctuary cities and states are protecting violent criminals, putting citizens in danger, instead of working with ICE to remove criminals safely like in other states.

You keep raising that phony claim that ICE is protecting us from dangerous criminals
ICE Tactics are to round up everyone, some of which may be criminals

Beating and shooting protesters does not fall within the realm of protection from dangerous criminals

 

[rightwinger]

Sanctuary cities have been proven correct in not wanting ICE in their communities

 

[eagle1462010]

You keep raising that phony claim that ICE is protecting us from dangerous criminals
ICE Tactics are to round up everyone, some of which may be criminals

Beating and shooting protesters does not fall within the realm of protection from dangerous criminals

When they interfere and Obstruct.

Yes it is

 

[rightwinger]

When they interfere and Obstruct.

Yes it is

Pretti was doing neither

Videoing ICE is not obstruction

 

[WorldWatcher]

ICE agents were working to remove dangerous criminals from the community.

And they stopped this important work because a woman blew a whistle at them?

Two girls went up to about 2' from the ICE agents blowing whistles in their ears.

Two feet, oh the horror.

The ICE agents pushed the two girls out of the enforcement area and sprayed them.

This is the false part, the pushed the woman away, who then moved to cross the street and the ICE Agent FOLLOWED her.

Then proceeded to assault her, Pretti and the other woman.

I'm not saying that ICE did not overreact by being too rough with those girls, but Mr Pretti would not have engaged ICE and been shot if those two bimbos did not antagonize ICE and get sprayed.

I'm glad your not saying that.

Because they absolutely did over react. A woman blew a whistle and then (a) assaulted the woman, (b) chased after them, (c) pushed her to the ground and when Pretti attempted to assist the woman pepper sprayed them both, (d) then proceeded to beat on Pretti finally shooting him 10 times in the back as he was face down to the pavement.

This is what you are defending.

Mr. Pretti should have stayed well back from ICE since he was carrying a concealed weapon. A fatal error.

Pretti did stay back from ICE, they approached him.

So yes, I am blaming Mr Pretti's death on those two radical girls, and on the radical governor and mayor who oppose ICE enforcing Federal Law instead of working with ICE to remove dangerous criminals from the community safely.

Do you blame the women who is raped for wearing a short skirt saying she got what she deserved?

Maybe if ICE quite acting like gang thugs their wouldn't be such a negative reaction.


WW

 

[eagle1462010]

Pretti was doing neither

Videoing ICE is not obstruction

Had the idiot stayed away and not went in he would still be alive.

About 8 others were filming. None of them died huh

 

[kyzr]

You keep raising that phony claim that ICE is protecting us from dangerous criminals
ICE Tactics are to round up everyone, some of which may be criminals

Beating and shooting protesters does not fall within the realm of protection from dangerous criminals

ICE is not beating and shooting protesters.
ICE is defending themselves from radicals interfering with their enforcing Federal Law.

A better question is:
Why is MN protecting violent criminals instead of working with ICE to safely remove the criminals from the community like in other states?

 

[MisterBeale]

Noem didn't do anything wrong.
ICE agents overreacted to two girl protesters and Mr. Pretti died.
If those two stupid girls did not piss ICE off with those whistles no one would have died.

Regardless, we can't have agents of the government losing their cool.

If the admin was wise, they would place these agents on leave and do a thorough, transparent investigation.

The Trump admin. is already heading toward a midterm loss, and this MN corruption that led to Floyd's death has already cost the GOP one presidential election. If the admin does not get things under control, these corrupt folks in MN might be part of a new administration, and then this chaos will go nationwide.

 

[rightwinger]

ICE is not beating and shooting protesters.
ICE is defending themselves from radicals interfering with their enforcing Federal Law.

Evidently they are

They respond by pepper spraying women and shooting nurses

 

[rightwinger]

Had the idiot stayed away and not went in he would still be alive.

About 8 others were filming. None of them died huh

Blame the victim

 

[eagle1462010]

Regardless, we can't have agents of the government losing their cool.

If the admin was wise, they would place these agents on leave and do a thorough, transparent investigation.

The Trump admin. is already heading toward a midterm loss, and this MN corruption that led to Floyd's death has already cost the GOP one presidential election. If the admin does not get things under control, these corrupt folks in MN might be part of a new administration, and then this chaos will go nationwide.

That would be throwing ICE under the bus.

That would Embolden the rioters to do more.

Time to arrest in mass all those obstructing ICE and charge them with Ibstruction of justice.

They will not stop til they pay a price for this.

 

[rightwinger]

That would be throwing ICE under the bus.

That would Embolden the rioters to do more.

Time to arrest in mass all those obstructing ICE and charge them with Ibstruction of justice.

They will not stop til they pay a price for this.

That’s a good look for Republicans in November

 

[kyzr]

This is the false part, they pushed the woman away, who then moved to cross the street and the ICE Agent FOLLOWED her.
Then proceeded to assault her, Pretti and the other woman.

True.

I'm glad your not saying that (ICE did not over react)
Because they absolutely did over react. A woman blew a whistle and then (a) assaulted the woman, (b) chased after them, (c) pushed her to the ground and when Pretti attempted to assist the woman pepper sprayed them both, (d) then proceeded to beat on Pretti finally shooting him 10 times in the back as he was face down to the pavement. This is what you are defending.

True.

Pretti did stay back from ICE, they approached him.

No. Watch the video again, at about 35s Mr. Pretti goes back to engage ICE knowing he is carrying a concealed weapon.

Do you blame the women who is raped for wearing a short skirt saying she got what she deserved?

No.

Maybe if ICE quit acting like gang thugs their wouldn't be such a negative reaction. WW

Maybe if MN stopped protecting criminals and worked with ICE like other states to safely remove criminals no one would get hurt.