Kasich's Extreme Issue 2 Bill Going Down In Ohio

[Stephanie]

I really love this. The nutters.....who opportunistically used the images of first responders in music videos and campaign ads for nearly a decade after 9/11..........have done a 180 and now blame them for the nation's ills.

Truly an odd turn of events.

your post is NUTTY and just plain STUPID

Bippidy Boppidy Boop

 

[JoeB131]

Thanks for visiting, wingnuts. And welcome to an elated Ohioan's celebration.

You didn't answer my question. What happens when businesses start fleeing Ohio because they can't afford the taxes to support these lavish union benefits?

Your supposition doesn't hold true in real world applications. Are states with little or no taxes doing better than those with high taxes?

Are "tax friendly" states like Nevada doing any better for new business than a less friendly state?

When a business is looking to start in a state, is it taxes they cite as the reason?

I think it's dishonest to signal out Nevada particularly, since we both know that their economy is largely based on the convention and gambling industries, which have taken particularly hard hits. the Casinos on Wall Street cleaned out the kid's college fund before the Casinos in Las Vegas could.

States like Texas have seen job growth, largely because they've gotten these run-away government slugs under control.

 

[Seawytch]

You didn't answer my question. What happens when businesses start fleeing Ohio because they can't afford the taxes to support these lavish union benefits?

Your supposition doesn't hold true in real world applications. Are states with little or no taxes doing better than those with high taxes?

Are "tax friendly" states like Nevada doing any better for new business than a less friendly state?

When a business is looking to start in a state, is it taxes they cite as the reason?

YES, YOU DIM BULB, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What world do you live in?????

You BET taxes are a big question with businesses in which state they chose!

Simply SAYING it doesn't make it so. Please provide REAL WORLD examples of your claim. Is Nevada doing better than California for new businesses?

What businesses ACTUALLY look for goes WAY beyond taxes. They look at access to transportation, the labor pool and quality of life in the state. They look at education in the state for their labor pool.

I realize that "conservatives" want to make everything about taxes (which just happen to be a their lowest levels in decades), but those myopic views aren't the whole story.

 

[Chris]

Governors Kaisch, Walker, and Scott are very unpopular.

The American people are getting a taste of the real Republican agenda.

And they don't like it.

 

[asterism]

Your supposition doesn't hold true in real world applications. Are states with little or no taxes doing better than those with high taxes?

Are "tax friendly" states like Nevada doing any better for new business than a less friendly state?

When a business is looking to start in a state, is it taxes they cite as the reason?

YES, YOU DIM BULB, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What world do you live in?????

You BET taxes are a big question with businesses in which state they chose!

Simply SAYING it doesn't make it so. Please provide REAL WORLD examples of your claim. Is Nevada doing better than California for new businesses?

What businesses ACTUALLY look for goes WAY beyond taxes. They look at access to transportation, the labor pool and quality of life in the state. They look at education in the state for their labor pool.

I realize that "conservatives" want to make everything about taxes (which just happen to be a their lowest levels in decades), but those myopic views aren't the whole story.

List names 100 companies leaving California - Jan Norman on Small Business : The Orange County Register

CARPE DIEM: Companies Leaving California in Record Numbers

http://www.csub.edu/kej/documents/happening/2011-03-21_business.pdf

 

[Chris]

You didn't answer my question. What happens when businesses start fleeing Ohio because they can't afford the taxes to support these lavish union benefits?

Your supposition doesn't hold true in real world applications. Are states with little or no taxes doing better than those with high taxes?

Are "tax friendly" states like Nevada doing any better for new business than a less friendly state?

When a business is looking to start in a state, is it taxes they cite as the reason?

I think it's dishonest to signal out Nevada particularly, since we both know that their economy is largely based on the convention and gambling industries, which have taken particularly hard hits. the Casinos on Wall Street cleaned out the kid's college fund before the Casinos in Las Vegas could.

States like Texas have seen job growth, largely because they've gotten these run-away government slugs under control.

Texas receives more federal money than they pay in taxes.

Texas is a welfare queen.

 

[Seawytch]

You didn't answer my question. What happens when businesses start fleeing Ohio because they can't afford the taxes to support these lavish union benefits?

Your supposition doesn't hold true in real world applications. Are states with little or no taxes doing better than those with high taxes?

Are "tax friendly" states like Nevada doing any better for new business than a less friendly state?

When a business is looking to start in a state, is it taxes they cite as the reason?

I think it's dishonest to signal out Nevada particularly, since we both know that their economy is largely based on the convention and gambling industries, which have taken particularly hard hits. the Casinos on Wall Street cleaned out the kid's college fund before the Casinos in Las Vegas could.

States like Texas have seen job growth, largely because they've gotten these run-away government slugs under control.

New York City has seen economic growth upwards of 3 and 4%. Their taxes are 51% above the national average. Tell me again how taxes are the biggest factor? Tell me again how it is taxes that will drive businesses out?

 

[bodecea]

A no vote on issue 2 is a vote for Teachers, Firefighters, Police and bargaining rights in general.

Kasich is looking a little glum lately.

Kasich Tries to Calm Ohio Unions Pushing Vote on Bargaining Law

Since Ohio Governor John Kasich signed a law restricting government unions similar to one backed by Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, he has spent months trying to avoid a divisive referendum on the measure, using private talks and public pressure.

After Walker braved a Capitol occupation and residents began trying to recall his legislative allies, Kasich supported private discussions with labor leaders in June, said Curt Steiner, a Republican consultant who hosted the talks at his Columbus office. When those proved fruitless, Kasich held news conferences last week urging opponents to consider a compromise taking the issue off the Nov. 8 ballot.

Kasich Tries to Calm Ohio Unions Pushing Vote on Bargaining Law - Bloomberg

Right..

DEMOCRATS DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO FLEECE TAXPAYERS.

Got it!!

Isn't it time to remember 2010?

 

[bodecea]

Oh brother..

EXTREME

How bout ALL them other peons who aren't teachers, firefighters, police WHO don't belong TO A UNION

they must be poor poor DUMB people too..

Apparently.

 

[Claudette]

Let me correct you. Those that are stupid and dumb are those like you who cannot see the fog that the rich and ultra rich have you believing. Let them get away with "legalized" theft , and you think it is their right.
The income disparity and ideology of those like you have been held in check since the crash of the late '20's. But here they are, with the help of dumbies like you, they are rearing their ugly head again.
UNIONS FOREVER

Private sector unions, no problem. If those in business want to deal with the Unions then we the consumer can decide to buy or not to buy what that business is producing.

Public Sector, big problem. The TAXPAYERS get hosed to support the lavish pensions, HC and perks.

Even FDR said there should be no public sector unions. Smart man in that respect.

Taxpayers get hosed by those in charge. The more money they save by cutting salaries services the more their pay rises.
Take a look at your own local entity. I dare you and look at how their salaries have risen and check their "lavish" pensions, HC and perks.
But , hell that is no problem for narrow-minded people like you.
FDR wasn't right about everything.
UNIONS FOREVER

UNIONS FOREVER and you call me narrow minded. Excuse me while I LMAO.

I am a public sector worker. I live in a right to work State. Unlike most union folks I have no problem contributing to my HC and pension costs.

Unlike You I don't believe in amyone getting hosed with taxes to pay my way.

Narrow minded indeed. LOL

 

[Seawytch]

From Forbes:

Our ranking of Best Places looks at the 200 largest metropolitan statistical areas in the U.S. [...]

We consider 12 metrics relating to job growth (past and projected), costs (business and living), income growth, educational attainment and projected economic growth.

We also factor in quality of life issues like crime rates, cultural and recreational opportunities and net migration patterns. Lastly we included the number of highly ranked colleges in an area per our annual college rankings.

The Best Places for Business

So, again, it is myopic to think that taxes are the only factor...

 

[bodecea]

Since when did teachers, firefighters, police become ELEVATED as a job that is ABOVE everyday people?

Everyone has to tighten their belts in this economy...but the OTHERS DON'T.

I know you're upset that the Ohio governor doesn't get to treat them like crap.

 

[noose4]

Good to see the people of Ohio standing by the working people and not buying into the right wing idea that the wealthy that actually caused our nations financial problems should be protected and given tax breaks while the working people should sacrifice to pay for the damages the wealthy have inflicted. Police Officers, Firefighters, and teachers are the ones who are actually too big to fail.

 

[noose4]

Since when did teachers, firefighters, police become ELEVATED as a job that is ABOVE everyday people?

Everyone has to tighten their belts in this economy...but the OTHERS DON'T.

Not everyone, the Republican party fights tooth and nail to assure the top 1% not only does not have to tighten their belts they are seeing to it that they prosper even more in these difficult times by placing the burden on the little people.

 

[Full-Auto]

Since when did teachers, firefighters, police become ELEVATED as a job that is ABOVE everyday people?

Everyone has to tighten their belts in this economy...but the OTHERS DON'T.

Not everyone, the Republican party fights tooth and nail to assure the top 1% not only does not have to tighten their belts they are seeing to it that they prosper even more in these difficult times by placing the burden on the little people.

Whaaa he still has money and I want it.




LOSER!!

Nice rhetoric though.

 

[noose4]

Since when did teachers, firefighters, police become ELEVATED as a job that is ABOVE everyday people?

Everyone has to tighten their belts in this economy...but the OTHERS DON'T.

Not everyone, the Republican party fights tooth and nail to assure the top 1% not only does not have to tighten their belts they are seeing to it that they prosper even more in these difficult times by placing the burden on the little people.

Whaaa he still has money and I want it.




LOSER!!

Nice rhetoric though.

Another who supports the working people being held responsible for the harm the rich have caused, rock on scumbag.

 

[Full-Auto]

Not everyone, the Republican party fights tooth and nail to assure the top 1% not only does not have to tighten their belts they are seeing to it that they prosper even more in these difficult times by placing the burden on the little people.

Whaaa he still has money and I want it.




LOSER!!

Nice rhetoric though.

Another who supports the working people being held responsible for the harm the rich have caused, rock on scumbag.

Damn youre a whiner.

But lets look at a simple fact the left, you and many others can not decide if someone should be treated equally until you have seen their wallet.

That takes you to the category of low life.

 

[noose4]

Whaaa he still has money and I want it.




LOSER!!

Nice rhetoric though.

Another who supports the working people being held responsible for the harm the rich have caused, rock on scumbag.

Damn youre a whiner.

But lets look at a simple fact the left, you and many others can not decide if someone should be treated equally until you have seen their wallet.

That takes you to the category of low life.

Funny coming from a scumbag that supports cutting the taxes on the rich while lessening the rights of Firefighters, cops, and teachers.

 

[Seawytch]

I am a public sector worker. I live in a right to work State. Unlike most union folks I have no problem contributing to my HC and pension costs.

Unlike You I don't believe in amyone getting hosed with taxes to pay my way.

Most "union folks" don't mind contributing to their pensions and HC...what they DO mind is continually increasing their cost shares. In Wisconsin, the unions had already agreed to negotiate their benefits...but Governor Wanker decided to go after their right to collectively bargain anyway.

Unions didn't cause the financial mess we are in and yet they are the ones being asked to PAY for it.

I've worked in the public sector now for about six years and keep seeing what I have to pay increase. My cost share for benefits keeps going up while management, who has ZERO cost share for their benefits, haven't seen a single increase.

This constant attack on unions is simply inconceivable. Why the race to the bottom? When was the Middle Class the strongest in this country? When unions were strong...

 

[Sarah G]

Another who supports the working people being held responsible for the harm the rich have caused, rock on scumbag.

Damn youre a whiner.

But lets look at a simple fact the left, you and many others can not decide if someone should be treated equally until you have seen their wallet.

That takes you to the category of low life.

Funny coming from a scumbag that supports cutting the taxes on the rich while lessening the rights of Firefighters, cops, and teachers.

I can't believe Republicans want to take a stance like this. It is blantant and ridiculously wrong.