Toddsterpatriot
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How many in Mecca?
Jewish Supremacy From the Jordan River to the Sea
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Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
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See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
None.. The Jews in Arabia mostly returned to Jericho about 1000 years ago.
rylah
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Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
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See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
Rigby5
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What's Palestine?I'll bet you say rape victims deserved it.Any thoughts on why, across thousands of years and miles, the actions of a relatively few number of Jews consistently engage in anti-social behavior that results in millions of their tribe being exterminated?
What does that accusation have to do with Palestine?
I was a province of Syria according to Herodotus .. and mentioned by Shakespeare and Chaucer.
So now you admit the 'palestinians' are Syrians, after the numerous times that has been pointed out here, and they aren't 'refugees', they're just squatters who don't want to go back where they came from. They make too good a living via gangsterism and terrorism.
Squatters? The Palestinians have been there for thousands of years. The whole area was Syria-Palestine since 500 BC. The Jews have a remarkable story but they were never the only people who lived there and their kingdom was by no means grand. David was a bandit king on the trade route between Egypt and Mesopotamia.
"For thousands of years..."
And how many more thousands of years it will take until
at least any significant majority of so-called 'the Palestinians'
actually learn to pronounce 'P-alestine' or understand what that means?
People like you have belittled the Palestinians since you first sought sanctuary in Palestine.
Rubbish. The Labor Zionists bent over backwards trying to get them organized and promoting skilled labor training programs among Arabs; they rejected anything that smacked of progress and progressive social planning and instead some 90% of them joined the 1936 uprising. people like you are just liars and spreading bullshit.
What you are saying is that the Arabs rejected progressive social planning so they deserved what was done to them??
In the mid 1920s the various socialist factions were demonstrating against each other .. The Palestinians had never heard of Lenin an Marx so they were fairly confused by events.
No, they deserve it because Israel is the apple of G-d's eye.
They've crossed the line with the expulsion of local Jews form all 4 holy cities.
Humiliated by the weakest of dhimmis - they have no one to blame but themselves.
The Arabic speaking Jews were prosperous all over the ME and north Africa.
Oranges grow on trees
Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine'
and Jews are prosperous everywhere...
...here you're even trying to appropriate it in credit of Muslims,
That's a bit of propaganda.. The Arab Jews left in 1948, 1953, 1956, 1967 and 1973.
No, you just don't know anything.
Jews from Arab countries, and especially the local Jews in Israel,
essentially initiated the Zionist movement before Herzl was even born.
That's why when Arabs tell their narrative, never dare discuss the Damascus Affair,
and the following Arab pogroms throughout the Caliphate as the cause of Zionism.
The Zionists initiated the pogroms..
The Zionists didn't help the British get rid of the Ottoman Turks.
See? Pathetic antisemitism and total rejection of history and basic logic.
Tell me how did Zionists initiate the Arab pogroms of 1840's, before Zionism??
Nonsense.
There was not a significant Jewish population in the Mideast until the 1930s or so, European immigration skyrocketed.
Less than 5% of the population in Palestine was Jewish for example.
And there were NEVER any Arab violence against Jews.
It would be against the Quran.
But there were several riots, like in 1929, against Zionists who were deliberately starting violence and were heavily armed, while the British prevented Arabs from being armed.
If you look at the death toll of this riot, you see about 120 killed on each side, so then it is impossible to claim it was a pogrom. It was more likely started by Zionists.
By the way, the word "Semitic" is a proper noun, so alway has to be capitalized.
And you also are using it wrong, because the word "Semitic" means "of an Arab language group", and does not mean Jewish. So anti-Semitic, does not really mean anti-Jewish. That is an example of attempted cultural appropriation, and is wrong.
rylah
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Really, not because the Muslim prophet forbade any Jew in all of Arabia?
Show us your intellectual honesty, quote it yourself.
rylah
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What's Palestine?I'll bet you say rape victims deserved it.Any thoughts on why, across thousands of years and miles, the actions of a relatively few number of Jews consistently engage in anti-social behavior that results in millions of their tribe being exterminated?
What does that accusation have to do with Palestine?
I was a province of Syria according to Herodotus .. and mentioned by Shakespeare and Chaucer.
So now you admit the 'palestinians' are Syrians, after the numerous times that has been pointed out here, and they aren't 'refugees', they're just squatters who don't want to go back where they came from. They make too good a living via gangsterism and terrorism.
Squatters? The Palestinians have been there for thousands of years. The whole area was Syria-Palestine since 500 BC. The Jews have a remarkable story but they were never the only people who lived there and their kingdom was by no means grand. David was a bandit king on the trade route between Egypt and Mesopotamia.
"For thousands of years..."
And how many more thousands of years it will take until
at least any significant majority of so-called 'the Palestinians'
actually learn to pronounce 'P-alestine' or understand what that means?
People like you have belittled the Palestinians since you first sought sanctuary in Palestine.
Rubbish. The Labor Zionists bent over backwards trying to get them organized and promoting skilled labor training programs among Arabs; they rejected anything that smacked of progress and progressive social planning and instead some 90% of them joined the 1936 uprising. people like you are just liars and spreading bullshit.
What you are saying is that the Arabs rejected progressive social planning so they deserved what was done to them??
In the mid 1920s the various socialist factions were demonstrating against each other .. The Palestinians had never heard of Lenin an Marx so they were fairly confused by events.
No, they deserve it because Israel is the apple of G-d's eye.
They've crossed the line with the expulsion of local Jews form all 4 holy cities.
Humiliated by the weakest of dhimmis - they have no one to blame but themselves.
The Arabic speaking Jews were prosperous all over the ME and north Africa.
Oranges grow on trees
Arabs can't pronounce 'P-alestine'
and Jews are prosperous everywhere...
...here you're even trying to appropriate it in credit of Muslims,
That's a bit of propaganda.. The Arab Jews left in 1948, 1953, 1956, 1967 and 1973.
No, you just don't know anything.
Jews from Arab countries, and especially the local Jews in Israel,
essentially initiated the Zionist movement before Herzl was even born.
That's why when Arabs tell their narrative, never dare discuss the Damascus Affair,
and the following Arab pogroms throughout the Caliphate as the cause of Zionism.
The Zionists initiated the pogroms..
The Zionists didn't help the British get rid of the Ottoman Turks.
See? Pathetic antisemitism and total rejection of history and basic logic.
Tell me how did Zionists initiate the Arab pogroms of 1840's, before Zionism??
Nonsense.
There was not a significant Jewish population in the Mideast until the 1930s or so, European immigration skyrocketed.
Less than 5% of the population in Palestine was Jewish for example.
And there were NEVER any Arab violence against Jews.
It would be against the Quran.
But there were several riots, like in 1929, against Zionists who were deliberately starting violence and were heavily armed, while the British prevented Arabs from being armed.
If you look at the death toll of this riot, you see about 120 killed on each side, so then it is impossible to claim it was a pogrom. It was more likely started by Zionists.
By the way, the word "Semitic" is a proper noun, so alway has to be capitalized.
And you also are using it wrong, because the word "Semitic" means "of an Arab language group", and does not mean Jewish. So anti-Semitic, does not really mean anti-Jewish. That is an example of attempted cultural appropriation, and is wrong.
Don't think I asked about the new "1000 and 1 Nights of Arabia"...
Anything to actually refute what I said?
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Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
(Comment)
See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
The Palestinians didn't come from Europe or Russia. They have been there in Palestine since before Islam. You act like they have no rights or ever existed. You claim it was a land without people.
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They broke treaties and tried to take over the oases... and then there was that bit about killing the Nestorian Christians that didn't go too well.
Rigby5
Diamond Member
Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
(Comment)
See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
The smallness of population of Jews in the Mideast is voluntary.
Around 160 AD, the Jewish religious hierarchy took the Roman Diaspora decree to heart, as a sign from God, that they had sinned with the arrogance and pride of their rebellion, and they pledged to leave the Mideast and not return until the coming of the Messiah.
What few Jews did not leave were mostly massacred by the Christian Crusaders, later.
Muslims never had anything to do with the small size of Jewish population in the Mideast.
If you look at Muslim Moors in the Iberian Peninsula, they imported tens of thousands of Jews.
And again it was the Christians who abused them, not the Moslems.
Rigby5
Diamond Member
That is silly.
The Iranians wanted the Ayatollah, the US could not do anything about it legally.
Carter not only did not support the Ayatollah, but initiated Operation Eagle Talon to attack Iran and get the embassy hostages back.
But it failed due to sand and a collision in the dark.
Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
(Comment)
See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
The smallness of population of Jews in the Mideast is voluntary.
Around 160 AD, the Jewish religious hierarchy took the Roman Diaspora decree to heart, as a sign from God, that they had sinned with the arrogance and pride of their rebellion, and they pledged to leave the Mideast and not return until the coming of the Messiah.
What few Jews did not leave were mostly massacred by the Christian Crusaders, later.
Muslims never had anything to do with the small size of Jewish population in the Mideast.
If you look at Muslim Moors in the Iberian Peninsula, they imported tens of thousands of Jews.
And again it was the Christians who abused them, not the Moslems.
By the birth of Christ most Jews did not live in Palestine.. There were large Jewish communities in Rome, Alexandria, Elephantine Island, Damascus, Antioch, Aleppo, Persia, Baghdad... and all over Anatolia and around the Med Sea.
Rigby5
Diamond Member
Non-Muslims are prohibited from living in Mecca, but that is the only place.
Rigby lies
Jews in Islamic Countries: Iran
Article about the history of the Jewish community of Iran.
Rigby5
Diamond Member
Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
(Comment)
See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
The smallness of population of Jews in the Mideast is voluntary.
Around 160 AD, the Jewish religious hierarchy took the Roman Diaspora decree to heart, as a sign from God, that they had sinned with the arrogance and pride of their rebellion, and they pledged to leave the Mideast and not return until the coming of the Messiah.
What few Jews did not leave were mostly massacred by the Christian Crusaders, later.
Muslims never had anything to do with the small size of Jewish population in the Mideast.
If you look at Muslim Moors in the Iberian Peninsula, they imported tens of thousands of Jews.
And again it was the Christians who abused them, not the Moslems.
By the birth of Christ most Jews did not live in Palestine.. There were large Jewish communities in Rome, Alexandria, Elephantine Island, Damascus, Antioch, Aleppo, Persia, Baghdad... and all over Anatolia and around the Med Sea.
You are correct.
I said the Jewish population of the mideast was small by then, but I should have said Palestine, not the whole Mideast.
Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
Some Iranians wanted the Ayatolla.. The Shah was a weak and mercurial guy.. He was at the center of wealthy, elite circle.. Not much interest or concern for the Iranian people. Carter didn't support the Ayatolla.
rylah
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Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
(Comment)
See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
The Palestinians didn't come from Europe or Russia. They have been there in Palestine since before Islam. You act like they have no rights or ever existed. You claim it was a land without people.
That explains your sadism and why you didn't deserve to be defeated by dhimmi Jews?
Or why the so called "Palestinians" can't even pronounce 'P-alestine'
without learning a foreign language?
You are frauds and you know it, you have no honor, not at all.
And can't deal with your own responsibility in becoming the disgrace of the Arab world.
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Rigby5
Diamond Member
Rigby lies
Jews in Islamic Countries: Iran
Article about the history of the Jewish community of Iran.www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
Your link shows that there are lots of Jews living in Iran, without problem.
It says only 8,000 now, but obviously lots of Jews stopped overtly saying they were Jewish.
In fact, Ahmadinejad was Jewish and openly admitted it.
Influence of the incident and reactions to it[edit]
In a new and groundbreaking effort, the American Jewish community of 15,000[11] protested in six American cities on behalf of their Syrian brethren. "For the first time in American Jewish life, Jews... organized themselves politically to help Diaspora Jewry in distress."
According to Hasia R. Diner, in The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[13]
According to Johannes Valentin Schwarz, the events also encouraged the growth of a modern Jewish press. "As a result, a sense of solidarity was evoked among the Jewish communities of Europe they had never experienced before. Thus, the Damascus Affair gave birth to modern Jewish press especially in Western Europe, such as to the long-lived papers Les Archives Israélites de France (1840-1935) in Paris or The Jewish Chronicle (1841 ff.) in London."[14]
Damascus affair - Wikipedia
(Comment)
See what I was saying?
Arabs have no one to blame but themselves...for returning a favor.
The Damascus Affair was in 1840.. Until the 1920s the Jewish population of Palestine was tiny.
And this is exactly why...
but you have neither the guts nor intellectual honesty to admit.
All you know is "blame da Joooz"...pathetic...still wonder why you fail and we lead?
The Palestinians didn't come from Europe or Russia. They have been there in Palestine since before Islam. You act like they have no rights or ever existed. You claim it was a land without people.
That explains your sadism and why you didn't deserve to be defeated by dhimmi Jews,
or why the so called "Palestinians" can't even pronounce 'P-alestine'
without learning a foreign language?
You are frauds and you know it, you have no honor, not at all,
and can't deal with your own responsibility in becoming the disgrace of the Arab world.
When I was a kid there were thousands of Palestinians living and working in Arabia in 1950.. This is more of your claiming they didn't exist.
Remember, the European Jews sought sanctuary in Palestine when no one else would give them a safe place.. .. The Palestinians have paid for the Holocaust in Europe.
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