Jesse Ventura...fraud or moron?

[Patriot911]

You are bashing one of your fellow believers.

Again I ask...why won't Ventura release the entire tape?

I don't believe I am bashing you. I was talking specifically to eots.

As for Ventura's show, the very fact he only shows one side of the story shows me just how honest and credible he is. I did not see the interview you are talking about, but it wouldn't surprise me if he heavily edited the tape to try and prove his conspiracy has merit. The man is desperate for attention.

 

[SFC Ollie]

There is no doubt that he is both a fraud and a moron. But mostly a fraud.

 

[Patriot911]

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

So why can't you address the fact he flat out lied to you and everyone else? He OBVIOUSLY is qualified as a pilot, yet he used that supposed credibility to feed you a complete lie. The sad thing is, you swallow whatever these assholes feed you without bothering to even look at the facts.

Oh well. Your loss. Still waiting to hear how I am wrong and your hero asshole is right. Just throwing credentials around as though that is in and of itself good enough doesn't cut it. What..... you think he can't lie just because he is a pilot?

 

[eots]

You are bashing one of your fellow believers.

Again I ask...why won't Ventura release the entire tape?

I don't believe I am bashing you. I was talking specifically to eots.

As for Ventura's show, the very fact he only shows one side of the story shows me just how honest and credible he is. I did not see the interview you are talking about, but it wouldn't surprise me if he heavily edited the tape to try and prove his conspiracy has merit. The man is desperate for attention.

whY don't you speak to the issue instead..I believe it was your contention this man is one of those wannna be U.S fighter pilots that thinks he knows about flying when really compared to you he is a piece of shit...correct ?

 

[Patriot911]

whY don't you speak to the issue instead..I believe it was your contention this man is one of those wannna be U.S fighter pilots that thinks he knows about flying when really compared to you he is a piece of shit...correct ?

I addressed the issue. You ran away, remember? You don't? Just look up. You posted the fucking liars credentials as though that means anything. Why don't you address his lie instead? I posted the facts. Look them up if you don't believe me. Do the math yourself. I gave you the formulas and the conversion figures.

Science and math don't lie. Your shithead "hero" did. You, like a complete fucking moron, swallowed his lie hook, line and sinker. Don't you hate being made a fool of by the very people you are trying to promote as credible and honest? I would if I were in your shoes.

 

[eots]

ANOTHER UNQUALIFIED LYING PIECE OF SHIT ?...THAT CANT DO HIS MATH ?...LOL


Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.
Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[uscitizen]

Just saw one of his shows where he "interviewed" a woman on the 9/11 commission. Instead of showing the actual interview he creatively edited so you didn't know if the answers she gave were to the questions he asked.

I say he's a fraud out to make money off the gullible.

Every dime that Jessie Ventura has ever made was made off of the gullible.

Yep just like Palin

 

[Patriot911]

Why can't you address the lie, eots? Come on. Grow a pair of balls, ya pussy! Be a man for ONCE in your life! Quit running from the truth and face the music. If you can, that is. Or is all you can do is throw up a smoke screen and hope nobody notices all that egg on your face?

 

[eots]

why can't you address the lie, eots? Come on. Grow a pair of balls, ya pussy! Be a man for once in your life! Quit running from the truth and face the music. If you can, that is. Or is all you can do is throw up a smoke screen and hope nobody notices all that egg on your face?

wtf are you delusional ranting about now ?.."your" cut and paste math from your debwunking site ?..lol...give it up

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Did they find the missing $2.3 TRILLION dollars?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU[/ame]

 

[Patriot911]

why can't you address the lie, eots? Come on. Grow a pair of balls, ya pussy! Be a man for once in your life! Quit running from the truth and face the music. If you can, that is. Or is all you can do is throw up a smoke screen and hope nobody notices all that egg on your face?

wtf are you delusional ranting about now ?.."your" cut and paste math from your debwunking site ?..lol...give it up

That "cut and paste" math is my own and it is real and good or I am sure you would have pointed out the flaws by now.

Let the record show eots is a gutless wonder who doesn't have the balls to man up and admit the truth.

Go ahead, eots. Show us how one of YOUR heros isn't lying to you and making you look like a total jackass for promoting his credibility. Go ahead. It is simple math. It is simple physics. It is a black and white issue. Either he is telling the truth or he is lying. Did Flight 77 pull 5, 6 or 7 Gs or did it pull less than one?

This is really simple, eots. You know it too. Otherwise you wouldn't be ducking and running away like a little bitch. Come on. You can do it. It feels really good to dump the lies and embrace the truth. Try it for once in your sorry, pathetic little life.

 

[eots]

why can't you address the lie, eots? Come on. Grow a pair of balls, ya pussy! Be a man for once in your life! Quit running from the truth and face the music. If you can, that is. Or is all you can do is throw up a smoke screen and hope nobody notices all that egg on your face?

wtf are you delusional ranting about now ?.."your" cut and paste math from your debwunking site ?..lol...give it up

that "cut and paste" math is my own and it is real and good or i am sure you would have pointed out the flaws by now.

Let the record show eots is a gutless wonder who doesn't have the balls to man up and admit the truth.

Go ahead, eots. Show us how one of your heros isn't lying to you and making you look like a total jackass for promoting his credibility. Go ahead. It is simple math. It is simple physics. It is a black and white issue. Either he is telling the truth or he is lying. Did flight 77 pull 5, 6 or 7 gs or did it pull less than one?

This is really simple, eots. You know it too. Otherwise you wouldn't be ducking and running away like a little bitch. Come on. You can do it. It feels really good to dump the lies and embrace the truth. Try it for once in your sorry, pathetic little life.

uh-huh...

 

[eots]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s[/ame]

 

[editec]

I have no dog in this debate but I'd like to follow it to whatever conclusions we can arrive at, anyway

I ask that we keep the content factual, and try NOT to insult one another.

Think that is possible?

CAn we remind ourselves that a difference of opinion does not necesssitate a comment about the poster with whom we disagree?

Can we sustain that level of posting maturity for this thread, please?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

I have no dog in this debate but I'd like to follow it to whatever conclusions we can arrive at, anyway

I ask that we keep the content factual, and try NOT to insult one another.

Think that is possible?

CAn we remind ourselves that a difference of opinion does not necesssitate a comment about the poster with whom we disagree?

Can we sustain that level of posting maturity for this thread, please?

Tried it, they believe in silent explosion that have enough force to cut major steel girders but dont break windows .
They re fact proof kooks of the first order.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

ok folks if flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, what happen to the plane?

The Pod People And The Plane That Crashed Into the Pentagon

What happen to the 62 people on board? 62 people that had either a wife, husband, children, mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle?

 

[eots]

I have no dog in this debate but I'd like to follow it to whatever conclusions we can arrive at, anyway

I ask that we keep the content factual, and try NOT to insult one another.

Think that is possible?

CAn we remind ourselves that a difference of opinion does not necesssitate a comment about the poster with whom we disagree?

Can we sustain that level of posting maturity for this thread, please?

Tried it, they believe in silent explosion that have enough force to cut major steel girders but dont break windows .
They re fact proof kooks of the first order.

wow that lasted a long time....and now a word from those kooks at NASA


Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.


Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth.org


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 1,300 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov








Larry L. Erickson, MS, PhD


Larry L. Erickson, BS Aeronautical Eng, MS Aeronautical Eng, PhD Eng Mechanics – Retired NASA Aerospace Engineer and Research Scientist. Conducted research in the fields of structural dynamics, aerodynamics, aeroelasticity and flutter. Recipient of NASA's Aerodynamics Division Researcher-of-the-Year Award. 33-year NASA career. Member, American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics. Instructor, Physics and Aerospace Engineering, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo 1998 - present. Author and co-author of several scientific papers on aerodynamic analysis. Contributing author to Applied Computational Aerodynamics (1990).
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"Serious technical investigations by experts seem to be lacking from the official explanations." AE911Truth.org


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 1,300 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth.org

Yeah explosives that dont break windows when they go off.
Thats some real kool science .

 

[eots]

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth.org

Yeah explosives that dont break windows when they go off.
Thats some real kool science .

YA GUESS THE BOYS AT NASA JUST NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT..LOL...THEY AINT VERY GOOD AND THAT"BRAIN THINKIN" STUFF LIKE YOU...


Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aeronautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT – Pilot and Astronaut. Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission). Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy. Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5). Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project. Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there. Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998. Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University. Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08: "Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.

WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 (“9/11&#8221, and

WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...

An independent, temporary New York City commission (the “Commission&#8221 is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."


Website: http://www.edmitchellapollo14.com




Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Mr. Jones]

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

So why can't you address the fact he flat out lied to you and everyone else? He OBVIOUSLY is qualified as a pilot, yet he used that supposed credibility to feed you a complete lie. The sad thing is, you swallow whatever these assholes feed you without bothering to even look at the facts.

Oh well. Your loss. Still waiting to hear how I am wrong and your hero asshole is right. Just throwing credentials around as though that is in and of itself good enough doesn't cut it. What..... you think he can't lie just because he is a pilot?

Wow, just flat out lied, he's a liar, and on purpose too according to you right? Probably just wants our money too huh? Maybe gets a kick back from pilotsfortruth.org! You slime bag parasite. You have to reach for any discrepancy, or off the cuff remark to somehow try to discredit this gentleman. So he may have said shit out of his ass for being unprepared for an interview, and took a guess, (he did use the word probably didn't he?) so what? You do it here all the time on this forum jackass. It doesn't mean he's this big liar your making him out to be. STFU with your bullshit whining already. He's a better man then you'll ever be, and you fucking know it, you jealous little bitch. Please tell us all again what a great pilot you are? Whose backing the terrorists now? You act like you'd pat Honjour on the back for doing such a great job.
Your statement about the man is disingenuous and slanderous, and another one of your over the top reactions. Do you even know for sure what part of the flight maneuver he might have been referring to? I'll answer that for you ya crying lil bitch. NO! you don't. I bet you wouldn't say that kind of shit to his face you pussy..