JD Vance on free speech

[Votto]

‘This is Orwellian’: JD Vance EXPOSES Germany's strict laws on free speech | Blaze Media

Vice President JD Vance isn’t afraid of ruffling any feathers, and he made this clear when he condemned Europe for its growing censorship laws. “Insulting someone is not a crime, and criminalizing speech is going to put real strain on European-U.S. relationships,” Vance posted on X. “This is...

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Does free speech lead to dictatorship as the Left is trying to convince people today?

Vice President JD Vance isn’t afraid of ruffling any feathers, and he made this clear when he condemned Europe for its growing censorship laws.

“Insulting someone is not a crime, and criminalizing speech is going to put real strain on European-U.S. relationships,” Vance posted on X. “This is Orwellian, and everyone in Europe and the U.S. must reject this lunacy.”

Vance wrote this on a quote tweet of a clip on "60 Minutes" that went viral, where German prosecutors calmly confirmed just how Orwellian their country really is.

“It’s illegal to display Nazi symbolism, a swastika, or deny the Holocaust, that’s clear,” the "60 Minutes" reporter told the prosecutors, before asking, “Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?”

“Yes,” the prosecutors answered in unison.

“And it’s a crime to insult them online as well?” the reporter asked.

“Yes, the fine could be even higher if you insult someone on the internet,” one prosecutor answered. “Because on the internet, it stays there. If we are talking here face to face, you insult me, I insult you, OK, finish. But if you are on the internet, if I insult you or a politician, that sticks around forever.”


The prosecutors also explained that under German law, the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes are also grounds for punishment. When charged, the punishment is usually a steep fine.

“That’s pretty, pretty chilling,” Pat Gray of “Pat Gray Unleashed” comments, and Keith Malinak is in full agreement.

“Less than three generations, we went from one fascist to another,” Malinak says, shocked.

“They’re just sitting there like, ‘Hey, yeah, we’re proud of this. This is great,’ and laugh about it,” Gray continues, adding, “and she’s smiling as she’s asking them the questions.”

 

[Votto]

So, if Trump was elected in Germany, all the Leftists would be rounded up and put in jail for how they speak of Trump?

Hilarious.

 

[pknopp]

Germany's law on speech is none of Vance's business.

 

[wamose]

So, all of Germany and our entire Democrat party are against free speech. We really need to stop the Democrat party to prevent us from becoming another Germany.

 

[DGS49]

The U.S. Constitution (including the Bill of Rights) are unusual in this world because much of it PLACES LIMITATIONS on the Government...says what the government cannot do.

And one of the biggies is that our government cannot punish you for criticizing the government, or anyone else, for that matter (although we have civil law to go after slanderers). Our Supreme Court has "drawn the line" at speech that is intended to incite violence or mayhem, with the often cited "red line," of "you cannot shout 'FIRE' in a crowded theater," because that would likely cause panic and personal injuries. But you can say things that others find offensive or even hurtful. The remedy for "bad" speech is "good" speech, not silencing the speaker.

When the government starts penalizing people for unpopular opinions, or for speech that makes people uncomfortable, that is not legitimate. It is a sign of a government that is unnecessarily oppressive, which is the first step toward tyranny.

To say that "free speech" leads to dictatorship is utter rubbish; it is the opposite of reality.

 

[Votto]

Germany's law on speech is none of Vance's business.

Really? So, what Germany does is never the business of the rest of the world?

You prefer him and the rest of the world to be ignorant of it?

 

[pknopp]

Really? So, what Germany does is never the business of the rest of the world?

Quite a leap there Evel Knievel.

 

[1srelluc]

Germany's law on speech is none of Vance's business.

When they get up on their high horse and attempt to dictate to the US about how we should act it is.

What is worse is that you have the leftists trying to imitate them....."Oh, but the EU is so much more "enlightened".

Bugger that, there was reason millions came to our shores looking for both freedom and opportunity that the EU would not offer.

It does not look like they learned a damn thing either. Just offering oppression under a new name.

 

[pknopp]

When they get up on their high horse and attempt to dictate to the US about how we should act it is.

What is worse is that you have the leftists trying to imitate them....."Oh, but the EU is so much more "enlightened".

Bugger that, there was reason millions came to our shores looking for both freedom and opportunity that the EU would not offer.

It does not look like they learned a damn thing either. Just offering oppression under a new name.

Elon Musk Calls for '60 Minutes' Journalists to Get a 'Long Prison Sentence'

Physician, heal thyself.

 

[hadit]

Germany's law on speech is none of Vance's business.

Remember you said that when a foreign head of state complains about an American law and you happen to agree with him/her/it.

 

[1srelluc]

Elon Musk Calls for '60 Minutes' Journalists to Get a 'Long Prison Sentence'

Physician, heal thyself.

So what is wrong with prison sentences for maleficence (if proven) toward the public in which they are supposed to serve?

What, they are not responsible for their actions?

 

[pknopp]

Remember you said that when a foreign head of state complains about an American law and you happen to agree with him/her/it.

You let me know if that ever happens, will you?

 

[martybegan]

Elon Musk Calls for '60 Minutes' Journalists to Get a 'Long Prison Sentence'

Physician, heal thyself.

For election interference.

“They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election," Musk wrote in the Feb. 16 X post. “They deserve a long prison sentence."

 

[hadit]

You let me know if that ever happens, will you?

If I hear about it and see you applauding it, sure.

 

[pknopp]

So what is wrong with prison sentences for maleficence (if proven) toward the public in which they are supposed to serve?

Like people going around yelling "THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS" in the media?

(that answers your question if you are able to figure it out)

What, they are not responsible for their actions?

You tell me.

 

[1srelluc]

Like people going around yelling "THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS" in the media?

(that answers your question if you are able to figure it out)


You tell me.

Sadly, we tend to overlook past media and politician misdeeds/disservice.....Stupid on our part as it just invites more of the same.

Hopefully that time is past as more as more maleficence comes to light.

 

[pknopp]

Sadly, we tend to overlook past media and politician misdeeds/disservice.....Stupid on our part as it just invites more of the same.

Hopefully that time is past as more as more maleficence comes to light.

Nothing is going to change. One side will continue to defend their side no matter what while the other will continue to do it for theirs.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It is the rare individual or group that truly believes in free speech.

If you go to Twitter right now, there are thousands of posts that blast the hell out of Musk and Trump. Many encouraging violence.

We were all told Musk owning Twitter was the death of free speech.

I sure do not see it. Is it possible that once again…LEFTIES LIE?

If Musk censors, why can I watch videos like this on Twitter?

 

[Marener]

For election interference.

So all you have to do is relabel free speech as something else and then you can make it illegal.

Seems pretty fascist.

 

[martybegan]

So all you have to do is relabel free speech as something else and then you can make it illegal.

Seems pretty fascist.

The editing they did of that interview was an act, not speech.