BreezeWood
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.I don't see it like that and that's not even close to what I am discussing. I don't live in pre-modern times and I am not constrained by what you have read in a book. Everything is connected through cause and effect. There are equal and opposite reactions. Cycles do exist. Consciousness is evolving just as all the other phases of the evolution of matter has evolved before it. Just because you are any of the books you have read don't see it or understand it does not mean it isn't happening or doesn't exist. The reality of the situation is that the natural physical laws and natural moral laws do exist. I am more than happy for you to be oblivious to your normalization of deviance.That's the classic error of pre-modern thinking, the teleological view of the world. It's the Aristotelian view that shackled western science for two millennia until Francis Bacon pointed out science doesn't concern itself with motive. A dog doesn't grow legs for the purpose of walking any more than rain falls because it wants to make the crops grow. Rain is a function of evaporation and condensation and gravity; we can make predictions about rain by observing those phenomena, not by ascertaining a rain cloud's desire to help farmers.Everything is cause and effect. There has never been an uncaused event. Therefore, everything happens for a purpose.Destiny is neither cause-and-effect, nor random chance. Nothing is "destined" in nature. Btw, is God in Nature?
The primitive mind wants to see purposes and destinies. To the primitive, if there is a time of drought, it's because the tribe didn't throw enough virgins in the volcano and the rain god wants to punish it. Or, because the farmer didn't tithe enough at church, and God is punishing him. We see this frequently after a hurricane, some fundy preacher somewhere will claim God was pissed at the area's homos so He sent the hurricane as punishment.
We need a Sir Francis Bacon of religion to help guys like you modernize your religious views. Just like primitive scientists were hobbled by approaching the physical world from the position that a dog grows legs so it can walk, religious primitives approach the question of God from the position of what the purpose of a God would be.
Well, obviously, He should be the Creator of the universe, because how we got here is a big huge question we'd like answered.But, you don't seem like an honest debater interested in wrestling with the eternal questions to gain real understanding. It's like you are just trying to score points so that "your side" can win, and I'm not interested in that.
Everything is connected through cause and effect.
the certainty after death included, the moment of Singularity - the Apex of Knowledge, sub Atomic particles ... you've got to be kidding, the Almighty.
they should deduct for post gouging ...
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