"Israeli policies don't affect anti-Semitism"

[Indeependent]

Nah, killing all non Muslims is what Muslims do.

Such outright bigotry towards Muslims leads to dead Jews.

Bite your tongue, young man. Why do you insist on fanning the flames of hatred?

You think anti-Semitism is a ******* joke?

It's a joke, not a "******* joke".

 

[Victory67]

Apparently Defeat67 isn't aware that Muslims circumcise their men in the most brutal barbaric ways, even up to their teen years. Why are all Pali supporters so ignorant?

There is no non-brutal or non-barbaric way to circumcize an 8 day old boy for non-medical reasons.

There are only degrees of brutality and barbarity.

 

[Victory67]

To Victory67--When you say incorrect info, like Muslims don't require circumcision, and someone points out your mistake, you should acknowledge it and apologize for your ignorance.

Sunni Islam[edit]

Amongst Ulema (Muslim legal scholars), there are differing opinions about the compulsion of circumcision in Sharia (Islamic law). Imams Abū Ḥanīfa, founder of the Hanafi school of Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), and Malik ibn Anas, maintain that circumcision is a Sunnah Mu'akkadah—not obligatory but highly recommended. The Shafi`i and Hanbali schools see it as binding on all Muslims

Shia Islam[edit]

Most Shia traditions regard the practice as obligatory.

Circumcision isn't even mentioned in the Koran.

Quranists[edit]

There is a Quran alone movement within Islam that rejects making male circumcision a religious requirement due to the fact it is not mentioned in any verse in the Qur'an

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_(circumcision)

I have nothing to apologize for as circumcision is clearly not obligatory in Islam.

Looks like someone really knows the nitty gritty about the Koran. Must have been a top student in his madrassa.

Sorry that I proved you wrong but it is what it is.

Circumcision isn't even mentioned in the Koran.

 

[aris2chat]

To Victory67--When you say incorrect info, like Muslims don't require circumcision, and someone points out your mistake, you should acknowledge it and apologize for your ignorance.

Sunni Islam[edit]

Amongst Ulema (Muslim legal scholars), there are differing opinions about the compulsion of circumcision in Sharia (Islamic law). Imams Abū Ḥanīfa, founder of the Hanafi school of Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence), and Malik ibn Anas, maintain that circumcision is a Sunnah Mu'akkadah—not obligatory but highly recommended. The Shafi`i and Hanbali schools see it as binding on all Muslims

Shia Islam[edit]

Most Shia traditions regard the practice as obligatory.

Quranists[edit]

There is a Quran alone movement within Islam that rejects making male circumcision a religious requirement due to the fact it is not mentioned in any verse in the Qur'an

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_(circumcision)




I have nothing to apologize for as circumcision is clearly not obligatory in Islam.

Because circumcision was also practised by all prophets, traditionally it has been in practice throughout the history among the followers of Prophet Ibraheem and establishes an Islamic connection to the ritual.

Allah ordered the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to follow the religion of Ibraheem (peace be upon him). Allah says in the Holy Qur'an:

"Then We inspired you: 'Follow the religion of Ibraheem, the upright in Faith'." [The Holy Qur'an 16:123]

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The Prophet Ibrahim circumcised himself when he was eighty years old." [Related by Al-Bukhari, Muslim & Ahmad]

Although circumcision is not one of the Five Pillars of the Faith, which consist of: the profession of faith, daily prayer, fasting at Ramadan, giving money to the poor (charity), and the pilgrimage to Mecca. However, this ritual is an act of purification and connects the person to the Prophet Ibraheem (peace be upon him) and his religion, Islam.

The Qur'an says: "Allah does not want to place burden on you. Rather, He wants to purify you and to complete His favours to you so that you may be grateful." [The Holy Qur'an 5:7]

A Hadith related by Bukhari reads: "The practices related to Fitrah (the nature) are five: circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, trimming the moustache, cutting the nails and removing the hair of the armpits."

Abraham was 99 years old. God appeared to him and said, 'I am God Almighty. Walk before Me and be perfect. I may make you father of many nations. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin. This shall be the mark of the covenant between Me and you. Abraham was 99 years old when he was circumcised on the flesh of his foreskin. His son Ishmael was thirteen years old when the flesh of his foreskin was circumcised. On that very day Abraham and his son Ishmael were circumcised. And all the males of his household. [Genesis, chapter 17]

 

[Indeependent]

Nah, killing all non Muslims is what Muslims do.

Such outright bigotry towards Muslims leads to dead Jews.

Bite your tongue, young man. Why do you insist on fanning the flames of hatred?

You think anti-Semitism is a ******* joke?

Hmmm...
I'm not a secular Jew.
I'm not a Humanist aka Bleeding Heart Liberal.

But what are you?
You are...
If you do not agree with me there will be Dead Jews!
Does that make you a Wanna Be Totalitarian Dictator?
Or just another frustrated Islamo Fascist who would murder his own kin to get his way.

 

[Victory67]

Circumcision is clearly not compulsary in all of Islam.

It appears to be for the Shia but not for the Sunni.

Vast majority of Muslims are Sunni.

 

[Victory67]

Hmmm...
I'm not a secular Jew.
I'm not a Humanist aka Bleeding Heart Liberal.

But what are you?
You are...
If you do not agree with me there will be Dead Jews!
Does that make you a Wanna Be Totalitarian Dictator?
Or just another frustrated Islamo Fascist who would murder his own kin to get his way.

Well then stop making racist comments about Arabs, and start condemning your kin that do!

This thread is about actions and comments that fuel anti-Semitism and so far you have blood on your hands.

 

[Indeependent]

Circumcision is clearly not compulsary in all of Islam.

It appears to be for the Shia but not for the Sunni.

Vast majority of Muslims are Sunni.

Who are very busy these days killing the Shia.
But that's OK, because they're not JOOOOS!

 

[Victory67]

Who are very busy these days killing the Shia.
But that's OK, because they're not JOOOOS!

Save your childishness for someone who cares.

I sir do not.

This thread is about anti-Semitism and the people like you that fuel it.

 

[Roudy]

Nah, killing all non Muslims is what Muslims do.

Such outright bigotry towards Muslims leads to dead Jews.

Bite your tongue, young man. Why do you insist on fanning the flames of hatred?

You think anti-Semitism is a ******* joke?

No I think the claims you make are a joke. Muslims are murdering people all over the world, blowing up churches, not a day goes by without news of a Muslim massacring large numbers of people, Olympic athletes are being targeted by Muslim savages, and you're busy demonizing Jews just because they have the audacity to defend themselves against these savages.

"It causes anti semetism". LOL

 

[Roudy]

Circumcision is clearly not compulsary in all of Islam.

It appears to be for the Shia but not for the Sunni.

Vast majority of Muslims are Sunni.

You clearly know nothing of Islam or Muslim culture. If you're not circumcised you're not a Muslim. The only difference is it not compulsory to circumcise when a male baby is eight days old, rather they do it later on a most barbaric medieval fashion.

 

[Indeependent]

Who are very busy these days killing the Shia.
But that's OK, because they're not JOOOOS!

Save your childishness for someone who cares.

I sir do not.

This thread is about anti-Semitism and the people like you that fuel it.

Anti-Semitism is an artifact of misinformation.
In fact, the Talmud states that Eisav hates Yaakov in order to separate us from superficial, uneducated people.
The descendants of Yishmael will repent just as Yishmael gave precedence to Yitzchaz at Avraham's funeral.

BTW, YOU brought up the Shia and Sunni on an Anti-Semitism thread.

 

[Victory67]

No I think the claims you make are a joke. Muslims are murdering people all over the world, blowing up churches, not a day goes by without news of a Muslim massacring large numbers of people, and you're busy demonizing Jews just because they have the audacity to defend themselves against these savages.

"It causes anti semetism". LOL

"demonizing Jews because they have the audacity to defend themselves".


Is that what we are talking about? Jews defending themselves?

Is that what racist and fascist comments against Arabs and Muslims are? Self-defense?

Is that what justifying ethnic cleansing of innocent people is? Self-defense?



You sir are either blind or a liar. Take your pick.

 

[Indeependent]

Hmmm...
I'm not a secular Jew.
I'm not a Humanist aka Bleeding Heart Liberal.

But what are you?
You are...
If you do not agree with me there will be Dead Jews!
Does that make you a Wanna Be Totalitarian Dictator?
Or just another frustrated Islamo Fascist who would murder his own kin to get his way.

Well then stop making racist comments about Arabs, and start condemning your kin that do!

This thread is about actions and comments that fuel anti-Semitism and so far you have blood on your hands.

Blood?
You are equating evacuation with murder?
How very Arab of you.

 

[Victory67]

Anti-Semitism is an artifact of misinformation.
In fact, the Talmud states that Eisav hates Yaakov in order to separate us from superficial, uneducated people.
The descendants of Yishmael will repent just as Yishmael gave precedence to Yitzchaz at Avraham's funeral.

BTW, YOU brought up the Shia and Sunni on an Anti-Semitism thread.

Excuse me? You're the guy who started this whole little diversion into things unrelated to anti-Semitism and its causes & fuels.

Islam is, or has become, a genetalia centered religion.
If it isn't then stop the 70 virgins nonsense.

 

[Indeependent]

Anti-Semitism is an artifact of misinformation.
In fact, the Talmud states that Eisav hates Yaakov in order to separate us from superficial, uneducated people.
The descendants of Yishmael will repent just as Yishmael gave precedence to Yitzchaz at Avraham's funeral.

BTW, YOU brought up the Shia and Sunni on an Anti-Semitism thread.

Excuse me? You're the guy who started this whole little diversion into things unrelated to anti-Semitism and its causes & fuels.

Islam is, or has become, a genetalia centered religion.
If it isn't then stop the 70 virgins nonsense.

Here's your bottom line...
Give back all the land or the world will hate and kill Jews.
Guess what the reality is...the spread of Islam and the demand for compliance for Sharia law is resulting in quite the opposite.

Are you a terrorist or do you simply support terrorism?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Who are very busy these days killing the Shia.
But that's OK, because they're not JOOOOS!

Save your childishness for someone who cares.

I sir do not.

This thread is about anti-Semitism and the people like you that fuel it.

Anti-Semitism is an artifact of misinformation.
In fact, the Talmud states that Eisav hates Yaakov in order to separate us from superficial, uneducated people.
The descendants of Yishmael will repent just as Yishmael gave precedence to Yitzchaz at Avraham's funeral.

BTW, YOU brought up the Shia and Sunni on an Anti-Semitism thread.

Actually, in 50 years I've only been affected by anti-Semitism 3x in mild forms. America is a great nation. But on this Board, I've seen the worst anti-Semitism, more than I've ever encountered in real life.

 

[Victory67]

Here's your bottom line...
Give back all the land or the world will hate and kill Jews.
Guess what the reality is...the spread of Islam and the demand for compliance for Sharia law is resulting in quite the opposite.

Are you a terrorist or do you simply support terrorism?

Your ignorant oversimplication of the issue doesn't surprise me. Nor does your false argument.

No, I am not a terrorist. Do you think all black people are janitors?

I think we've proven the OP to be correct.

 

[Victory67]

This conversation has run its course. Its now been proven again and again that Israeli actions fuel anti-Semitism. And more importantly that racism and bigotry by Israelis and their supporters leads to dead Jews.

Im out.

 

[Indeependent]

This conversation has run its course. Its now been proven again and again that Israeli actions fuel anti-Semitism. And more importantly that racism and bigotry by Israelis and their supporters leads to dead Jews.

Im out.

Bye.