Israeli flag burned as protests sweep Egypt

P F Tinmore, et al,

Who says that it a Palestinian Flag?

Al hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937 flying Palestinian flag

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What does that flag prove?

It proves that Palestine was around long before the PLO.
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How do you know that was not HRH Emir Faisal bin Hussein?

In the 1929 revised supplement to the 1915 "FOTW" W.J. Gordon wrote;
"The new Kingdom of the Hedjaz has chosen an excellent flag, black, white and green, horizontal, with a red triangle based all down the hoist and having its apex two fifths of the flag's length in the middle of the white; and Iraq is under the same flag owing to King Feisal of Bagdad having been the son of King Hussein of Mecca. The same flag is also flown by Trans-Jordania."

SOURCE: Kingdom of Hejaz 1915-1925

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P F Tinmore, et al,

Who says that it a Palestinian Flag?

What does that flag prove?

It proves that Palestine was around long before the PLO.
(COMMENT)

How do you know that was not HRH Emir Faisal bin Hussein?

In the 1929 revised supplement to the 1915 "FOTW" W.J. Gordon wrote;
"The new Kingdom of the Hedjaz has chosen an excellent flag, black, white and green, horizontal, with a red triangle based all down the hoist and having its apex two fifths of the flag's length in the middle of the white; and Iraq is under the same flag owing to King Feisal of Bagdad having been the son of King Hussein of Mecca. The same flag is also flown by Trans-Jordania."

SOURCE: Kingdom of Hejaz 1915-1925

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More smoke, Rocco?

Why would the Palestinians fly another's flag?

You don't make any sense.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3n5-yG-6dU]Professor Azmi Bishara: There Is No "Palestinian Nation", Never Was ! - YouTube[/ame]
 
Please tell me you're kidding. Leaders from the PA, Hamas, Egypt, Syria and elsewhere regularly speak of their goal of eliminating the Jewish State. The idea that Israel should give up land that was never part of a sovereign Palestinian State, including the holiest sites in the Jewish religion, and the Arabs will suddenly be satisfied and become Israel's friends is ludicrous.
America dropped two nukes on Japan and firebombed Dresden, yet with the war over became close allies...The Palestinian people have lived on that land for a thousand years and yet you claim it for a 65 year-old Israeli state.

If anyone's Logic is ludicrous it is your-own chauvanism.

The "Palestinian" people with whom Israel has its conflict have not existed for 1000 years. They were invented by the PLO. Read my signature.
Read my Lips: It is Israel that was invented by Western Colonial Fiat in 1948...All your AIPAC money has not produced a legitimate state recognized by the world at large.
 
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America dropped two nukes on Japan and firebombed Dresden, yet with the war over became close allies...The Palestinian people have lived on that land for a thousand years and yet you claim it for a 65 year-old Israeli state.

If anyone's Logic is ludicrous it is your-own chauvanism.

The "Palestinian" people with whom Israel has its conflict have not existed for 1000 years. They were invented by the PLO. Read my signature.

Al hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937 flying Palestinian flag

Picture8703.jpg
You showed that before and it was proven to be an Arab league / Jordanian flag. Why do you persist on spreading bullshit and lies? I guess it must be because you assume everybody is as stupid and ignorant as you are.
 
Read my Lips: It is Israel that was invented by Western Colonial Fiat in 1948...All your AIPAC money has not produced a legitimate state recognized by the world at large.

Interesting word, fiat.

Apart from its obvious meaning; it reminds me of a crappy Italian car.

The two share something; both are crap and require loads of money to keep them running. Luckily for Israel, the American tax payers are stupid enough to fund them long after any Italian would have scrapped his rust bucket car as a waste of time.

Back to the thread.
The Israeli pirate flag was burned because Israel interferes in Egyptian affairs and commits illegal acts within Egypt.

Israel holds Gaza Palestinian who vanished in Egypt | Reuters

(Reuters) - A Palestinian from the Gaza Strip who vanished while visiting Egypt this month is under arrest in Israel for alleged security offences, his family and his Israeli lawyer said on Sunday.

They said they did not know how Wael Abu Rida, 35, ended up in the Jewish state. The possibility he was seized from Egyptian Sinai territory could embarrass the Islamist-rooted government in Cairo at a time of major domestic unrest.

Israel creates its own problems because of its terrible treatment of anyone not Jewish.
Its draconian, bigoted policies create the conditions required for extremism to flourish and encourages hate for the whole.
Yes, there will be an eventual war against Israel and millions will die because the Israeli government are total bastards who abuse power to keep their ideal of a bigoted, single religion state alive.
The war will be lost by everyone but it'll happen anyway.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, of course. It makes perfect sense.

More smoke, Rocco?

Why would the Palestinians fly another's flag?

You don't make any sense.
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A flag, used by several entities, flying over a theater, proves the existence of Palestine.

Yeah, that make sense.

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P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, of course. It makes perfect sense.

More smoke, Rocco?

Why would the Palestinians fly another's flag?

You don't make any sense.
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A flag, used by several entities, flying over a theater, proves the existence of Palestine.

Yeah, that make sense.

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It may to you.

That is one instance of many. Israel's propaganda has always denied the existence of Palestine and Palestinians. That way it can deny stealing their land.
 
Phil, why do you persist in trying to justify the murder of one of our fellow American citizens who was there trying to help Egyptian children?

Why do you persist in trying to justify the murder of one of our fellow American citizens who was there trying to help Palestinian children?
And which American citizen is that, Tinnie? Is it one of the Americans killed by your friends while trying to deliver scholarships to Palestinians? Could the one you are referring to be the one who belonged to the outfit where an armed terrorist was hiding out before he set off to Mike's Place (owned jointly by a Christian and a Jew) and detonated himself, thus killing and wounding people?
 
....Acording to Al Yom Al Masri paper, the protesters even went as far as burring an Israeli flag in response to what they call "Zionist and American involvement in Egyptian affairs."

The paper also published a picture of a huge Israeli flag placed next to the building housing the defense ministry a minutes prior to its burning.

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Israeli flag burned as protests sweep Egypt - Israel News, Ynetnews

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What a bunch of baboons!
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Did they have the flag insured?
 
The "Palestinian" people with whom Israel has its conflict have not existed for 1000 years. They were invented by the PLO. Read my signature.

Al hambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937 flying Palestinian flag

Picture8703.jpg
You showed that before and it was proven to be an Arab league / Jordanian flag. Why do you persist on spreading bullshit and lies? I guess it must be because you assume everybody is as stupid and ignorant as you are.
In another thread months ago, I posted close-ups of those pictures Tinnie got from Wikipedia and with proof it was a Jordanian flag. I'm not gonna do it again.
P.S: The Jordanian Camel Racing Association had a similar flag at their events.
 
Auteur, et al,

Yes, the Arabs have a claim.

If you want to use that logic, HB67, then Israel's have an even more tenuous claim to the land. "Israeli's" did not exist before 1949. And indeed, the residents of Israel today are a most cosmopolitan and polyglot group, with immigrants (many recent) from around the world. The only common thread is magical belief system, and in fact not all Israelis put much stock in that either. Palestinian Arab roots go back for generations, perhaps centuries, certainly pre-dating 1949. The Jewish claim on the land is based simply on the concensus that they would like to have it. You can dredge up some dubious documents, such as the Balfour Declaraton (modest help), or Rocco's favorite, the Sharif of Mecca (pretty much zero help), or some ancient history (you would be risking ridicule here), but that statement cuts to the heart of the matter.
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The Palestinian may have some grievance; valid grievances. But they went about addressing the grievances through a very inappropriate process. The choices they made had consequences. They realized adverse consequences.


Whether we look at the Balfour Declaration, the Faisal-Wiezmann Agreement, the San Remo Conference, the Treaty of Sevres, the Mandate of Palestine, or the General Assembly 181(II), which has been recognized by the Palestinians as internationally legitimate, the Hostile Arab/Palestinian choice of going to war was inappropriate and had consequences that lead them directly to the environment which they enjoy today; and an environment that they essentially demand through their continued hostile actions.

If the Palestinian wants to alter their environment, they have to alter their behaviors.

I don't care how many centuries the Palestinian claim to have been inhabitance of the region, on one second of that time were they sovereign unto themselves. Nothing has change except the opportunity for them to become sovereign, and they rejected it.

Yes, I've heard all the arguments that they didn't get their rightful percentage. Well, life isn't fair. And as long as they focus on their computational percentage, they will loose. It was never the intention of the power-that-be, to make the apportionment on that basis.

Fight if you must. Remain quarantined for as long as you want. But always know, your actions forced your opponent to put you in the time-out box. There is no inherent right for you to challenge the sovereign integrity of the State of Israel. Your occupation is based on the threat you pose to the security of the member state and the region. It is not because Israel wants the land or the people (especially not the people). No one wants the Palestinian; not Lebanon, not Syria, not Jordan, not Egypt and not Saudi Arabia. It is a non-productive, parasitic culture. If the people of the Gaza Strip and West Bank emulated Israel more, they would have been ever so much more better off as a nation and a prosperous people.

PS: I noticed your offhand comment about HRH Faisal (Emir of Mecca). I also noticed that HM Faisal I got his Hashemite Kingdom from the UK and the Palestinian didn't. Hmmm!

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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America dropped two nukes on Japan and firebombed Dresden, yet with the war over became close allies...The Palestinian people have lived on that land for a thousand years and yet you claim it for a 65 year-old Israeli state.

If anyone's Logic is ludicrous it is your-own chauvanism.

The "Palestinian" people with whom Israel has its conflict have not existed for 1000 years. They were invented by the PLO. Read my signature.

If you want to use that logic, HB67, then Israel's have an even more tenuous claim to the land. "Israeli's" did not exist before 1949. And indeed, the residents of Israel today are a most cosmopolitan and polyglot group, with immigrants (many recent) from around the world. The only common thread is magical belief system, and in fact not all Israelis put much stock in that either. Palestinian Arab roots go back for generations, perhaps centuries, certainly pre-dating 1949. The Jewish claim on the land is based simply on the concensus that they would like to have it. You can dredge up some dubious documents, such as the Balfour Declaraton (modest help), or Rocco's favorite, the Sharif of Mecca (pretty much zero help), or some ancient history (you would be risking ridicule here), but that statement cuts to the heart of the matter.

Yeah... the Jewish history in Israel began in 1949. Archeology is hokum. :cuckoo:
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_9N1ldPtQ8]ISRAEL'S National Anthem - HATIKVAH with English and Hebrew lyrics ( Longer version ) - YouTube[/ame]
 
Auteur, et al,

Yes, the Arabs have a claim.

If you want to use that logic, HB67, then Israel's have an even more tenuous claim to the land. "Israeli's" did not exist before 1949. And indeed, the residents of Israel today are a most cosmopolitan and polyglot group, with immigrants (many recent) from around the world. The only common thread is magical belief system, and in fact not all Israelis put much stock in that either. Palestinian Arab roots go back for generations, perhaps centuries, certainly pre-dating 1949. The Jewish claim on the land is based simply on the concensus that they would like to have it. You can dredge up some dubious documents, such as the Balfour Declaraton (modest help), or Rocco's favorite, the Sharif of Mecca (pretty much zero help), or some ancient history (you would be risking ridicule here), but that statement cuts to the heart of the matter.
(COMMENT)

The Palestinian may have some grievance; valid grievances. But they went about addressing the grievances through a very inappropriate process. The choices they made had consequences. They realized adverse consequences.


Whether we look at the Balfour Declaration, the Faisal-Wiezmann Agreement, the San Remo Conference, the Treaty of Sevres, the Mandate of Palestine, or the General Assembly 181(II), which has been recognized by the Palestinians as internationally legitimate, the Hostile Arab/Palestinian choice of going to war was inappropriate and had consequences that lead them directly to the environment which they enjoy today; and an environment that they essentially demand through their continued hostile actions.

If the Palestinian wants to alter their environment, they have to alter their behaviors.

I don't care how many centuries the Palestinian claim to have been inhabitance of the region, on one second of that time were they sovereign unto themselves. Nothing has change except the opportunity for them to become sovereign, and they rejected it.

Yes, I've heard all the arguments that they didn't get their rightful percentage. Well, life isn't fair. And as long as they focus on their computational percentage, they will loose. It was never the intention of the power-that-be, to make the apportionment on that basis.

Fight if you must. Remain quarantined for as long as you want. But always know, your actions forced your opponent to put you in the time-out box. There is no inherent right for you to challenge the sovereign integrity of the State of Israel. Your occupation is based on the threat you pose to the security of the member state and the region. It is not because Israel wants the land or the people (especially not the people). No one wants the Palestinian; not Lebanon, not Syria, not Jordan, not Egypt and not Saudi Arabia. It is a non-productive, parasitic culture. If the people of the Gaza Strip and West Bank emulated Israel more, they would have been ever so much more better off as a nation and a prosperous people.

PS: I noticed your offhand comment about HRH Faisal (Emir of Mecca). I also noticed that HM Faisal I got his Hashemite Kingdom from the UK and the Palestinian didn't. Hmmm!

Most Respectfully,
R

Nothing has change except the opportunity for them to become sovereign, and they rejected it.

The Palestinians never rejected sovereignty.
 
Auteur, et al,

Yes, the Arabs have a claim.

If you want to use that logic, HB67, then Israel's have an even more tenuous claim to the land. "Israeli's" did not exist before 1949. And indeed, the residents of Israel today are a most cosmopolitan and polyglot group, with immigrants (many recent) from around the world. The only common thread is magical belief system, and in fact not all Israelis put much stock in that either. Palestinian Arab roots go back for generations, perhaps centuries, certainly pre-dating 1949. The Jewish claim on the land is based simply on the concensus that they would like to have it. You can dredge up some dubious documents, such as the Balfour Declaraton (modest help), or Rocco's favorite, the Sharif of Mecca (pretty much zero help), or some ancient history (you would be risking ridicule here), but that statement cuts to the heart of the matter.
(COMMENT)

The Palestinian may have some grievance; valid grievances. But they went about addressing the grievances through a very inappropriate process. The choices they made had consequences. They realized adverse consequences.


Whether we look at the Balfour Declaration, the Faisal-Wiezmann Agreement, the San Remo Conference, the Treaty of Sevres, the Mandate of Palestine, or the General Assembly 181(II), which has been recognized by the Palestinians as internationally legitimate, the Hostile Arab/Palestinian choice of going to war was inappropriate and had consequences that lead them directly to the environment which they enjoy today; and an environment that they essentially demand through their continued hostile actions.

If the Palestinian wants to alter their environment, they have to alter their behaviors.

I don't care how many centuries the Palestinian claim to have been inhabitance of the region, on one second of that time were they sovereign unto themselves. Nothing has change except the opportunity for them to become sovereign, and they rejected it.

Yes, I've heard all the arguments that they didn't get their rightful percentage. Well, life isn't fair. And as long as they focus on their computational percentage, they will loose. It was never the intention of the power-that-be, to make the apportionment on that basis.

Fight if you must. Remain quarantined for as long as you want. But always know, your actions forced your opponent to put you in the time-out box. There is no inherent right for you to challenge the sovereign integrity of the State of Israel. Your occupation is based on the threat you pose to the security of the member state and the region. It is not because Israel wants the land or the people (especially not the people). No one wants the Palestinian; not Lebanon, not Syria, not Jordan, not Egypt and not Saudi Arabia. It is a non-productive, parasitic culture. If the people of the Gaza Strip and West Bank emulated Israel more, they would have been ever so much more better off as a nation and a prosperous people.

PS: I noticed your offhand comment about HRH Faisal (Emir of Mecca). I also noticed that HM Faisal I got his Hashemite Kingdom from the UK and the Palestinian didn't. Hmmm!

Most Respectfully,
R

Nothing has change except the opportunity for them to become sovereign, and they rejected it.

The Palestinians never rejected sovereignty.
Of course they did. That's why they don't have a state.
 

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