Israel the big winner…

[Roudy]

Israel came out the big winner here. Hamas / Gaza destroyed, Iran’s sites leveled and its leadership eliminated, Hezbollah defanged and pummeled, hostages released, Israel remains in control of Gaza’s perimeter FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA…and pro Pali retards can no longer fantasize (masturbate) to the destruction of Israel.

 

[JGalt]

Israel came out the big winner here. Hamas / Gaza destroyed, Iran’s sites leveled and its leadership eliminated, Hezbollah defanged and pummeled, hostages released, Israel remains in control of Gaza’s perimeter, FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA…and pro Pali retards can no longer fantasize (masturbate) to the destruction of Israel.

I've always hated when people say "end the war.' What they really mean by that is for Israel to stop fighting. Now lets see how long it takes before Israel attacked again.

 

[Roudy]

I've always hated when people say "end the war.' What they really mean by that is for Israel to stop fighting. Now lets see how long it takes before Israel attacked again.

Probably the next generation. This one got really bloodied and found out what happens with you **** with Israel. Every thirty or forty years Israel has to humiliate the savages and teach them a lesson. In a few decades they will forget and try to **** with Israel again.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I've always hated when people say "end the war.' What they really mean by that is for Israel to stop fighting. Now lets see how long it takes before Israel attacked again.

One must take this sobering fact into consideration.

History teaches that ideological movements committed to genocide don’t negotiate themselves out of existence. The Allies didn’t offer Nazi Germany a twenty-point peace plan hoping the SS would voluntarily disarm. They demanded unconditional surrender, destroyed Nazi military capability, and rebuilt from scratch. Hamas, whose charter calls for Israel’s annihilation and whose leaders promise to repeat October 7 “again and again,” requires the same treatment.​

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From Middle East Forum.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

^ In other words, you have to win the peace.

 

[fncceo]

Now lets see how long it takes before Israel attacked again.

It won't be long.

I would be REALLY surprised if they even waited until the next Democrat administration.

They honestly cannot help themselves.

 

[fncceo]

These idiots marching on the street, and the ones sitting in the UN aren't marching or sitting with signs saying,

"Bring Peace to The Middle East"


Their signs say

"Liberate Gaza" and "From the River to the Sea"

Why they will no doubt welcome a chance for Hamas (or whatever they end up changing their name to) to re-arm

They will not stop until Israel is gone.

 

[JGalt]

^ In other words, you have to win the peace.

Wars are only "won" when you hurt the enemy so bad, they don't want to fight any more. Hamas doesn't really care about Gaza or the Palestinians. Gaza was only a strategic place where Hamas could run their operation and do the most damage to Israel, and those living there were just a source of funding.

Hamas will most likely try to set up shop in another country adjacent to Israel, and eventually continue their attacks. So Israel will have to strike them in those countries as well. You'd think by now that Hamas would be considered to be "poison", and no country would allow them to operate within their borders.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

From MEForum.

History provides a grim preview of what comes next. Yahya Sinwar, the architect of October 7, spent 22 years in Israeli prison studying Hebrew, analyzing Israeli society, planning his revenge. Released in the 2011 Shalit deal among 1,026 other prisoners, he used his freedom to orchestrate the deadliest day in Israel’s history. Today, Israel is releasing another generation of potential Sinwars.​

 

[ShahdagMountains]

You'd think by now that Hamas would be considered to be "poison", and no country would allow them to operate within their borders.

They’ve all gone woke, haven’t they?

Combine that with the enduring Jew hatred.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Hundreds of Christians marched through the streets of the Kenyan capital of Nairobi on Tuesday in a faith-based show of support for Israel.

The event, which commemorated the second anniversary of the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas onslaught on southern Israel, offered a stark contrast with the throng of anti-Israel protests held the same day throughout Europe as well as in Australia, and follows an intensive Israeli outreach to the African continent.

The nearly two-mile peaceful “March for Israel,” which was convened by the King Jesus Celebration Church Worldwide, the Africa-Israel initiative, the Israel Allies Foundation and the Faith Fathers of Kenya, was addressed by local evangelical Christian leaders who underscored the biblical foundation for their support.

https://www.jns.org/hundreds-of-kenyans-march-for-israel-in-nairobi/

 

[shockedcanadian]

Well Israel addressed multiple terror threats in the region over the last two years, you can be sure .Lebanons government among others in the region are grateful.. One has to wonder if Hezbollah in particular was being promoted as much stronger than they really were. They were supposed to be a serious threat with 100,000 missiles, yet, Israel handled them without much difficulty. The Abraham Accord is critical to peace. The problem is that radicals will often rise in the region in waves. I am not sure this war is over, Bibis government has goals they may deem "not achieved yet". The negotiation of the next phases are important and Trump and all nations in the region need to stay strong to maintain peace.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Nana Akua Appreciation Group.​

Finally there is a light at the end of the tunnel with the peace deal agreed.. BUT.. this does NOT mean we ever forget the atrocities that Hamas inflicted on Israel on the 7th October 2023.. BUT.. it DOES mean all those antisemetic hate marches that we have had to endure every single week for the last 2 years should cease immediately!!. If they do not, then that clearly tells us those marches were really nothing ever to do with Palestine/Gaza but rather were just an excuse to create chaos, hate and division on our streets!!

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Is it all a deadly illusion?

 

[bambu.]

Well Israel addressed multiple terror threats in the region over the last two years, you can be sure.Lebanons gkvernment among others in the region are grateful.. One has to wonder if Hezbollah in particular was being promoted as much stronger than they really were. They were supposed to be a serious threat with 100,000 missiles, yet, Israel handled them without much difficulty. The Abraham Accord is critical to peace. The problem is that radicals will often rise in the region in waves. I am not sure this war is over, Bibis government has goals they may deem "not achieved yet". The negotiation of the next phases are important and Trump and all nations in the region need to stay strong to maintain peace.

Amen.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

The great Jewish mistake—then and now—is believing that peace ends hatred. We believed it in 1918, when Europe promised there would be no more wars. We believed it again in 1945, when the world said never again. And we believe it still—after October 7, after Gaza, after Tehran’s proxies turned the world into a battlefield once more. But antisemitism is not a reaction to war. It is the disease that causes it.
From the Second Intifada to the atrocities of October 7 and the war that has followed—with new fronts opening by the week—the 21st century has been one long warning unheeded: a continuum of hatred, violence, and denial directed at Jews everywhere.

Ynet News.

 

[Roudy]

Nana Akua Appreciation Group.​

Finally there is a light at the end of the tunnel with the peace deal agreed.. BUT.. this does NOT mean we ever forget the atrocities that Hamas inflicted on Israel on the 7th October 2023.. BUT.. it DOES mean all those antisemetic hate marches that we have had to endure every single week for the last 2 years should cease immediately!!. If they do not, then that clearly tells us those marches were really nothing ever to do with Palestine/Gaza but rather were just an excuse to create chaos, hate and division on our streets!!

The marches may stop but unfortunately the antisemitic indoctrination and blood libel lies about Jews and Israel will continue in schools, universities and govt / private institutions and organizations.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

But while the conclusion of the current fighting is being celebrated, it’s important to remember that none of the modifications promised by the new plan—demilitarization, collection of weapons, government by a “technocratic apolitical Palestinian committee”—will lead to peace until Point No. 1 of the Trump plan is met: “Gaza will be a deradicalized, terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.” And that is highly unlikely to happen.

For more than a century, Palestinian society in Gaza has been taught that its national purpose is not to build a homeland for itself but to destroy the Jewish one: Israel. This is not a fringe belief. It is the cultural consensus. The idea is not debated in Gaza; it is the unifying principle of all politics, culture and religion. Every Palestinian classroom, mosque, media outlet and public institution reinforces the same message: Israel must disappear, and killing Jews is the means to that end.

This ideology did not begin with Hamas. The terrorist group merely weaponized what Palestinian culture had already been preaching for generations. From the Palestinian Authority to schools run by the U.N. Relief Works for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA), children have been raised to see “liberation” as synonymous with annihilation. The Palestinians’ very identity, the essence of their “national aspiration,” is built around that genocidal goal.

https://www.jns.org/the-fantasy-of-a-deradicalized-gaza/

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Tensions erupted inside tonight’s government meeting to approve the Hamas deal.
National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir clashed directly with U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, rejecting the deal in fierce terms:
“I’m looking at the list of terrorists being released ,murderers of babies, rapists of women. The United States would never make a deal like this.
You cannot make peace with Hamas. They want to kill us.”
Witkoff responded with a personal story of forgiveness after losing his son, but Ben Gvir shot back:
“That’s the difference. The people who murdered us on October 7 aren’t asking for forgiveness. Their families are proud. They glorify murder.
Would you make peace with Hitler? Hamas is Hitler.”

~ Caroline Glick.

 

[toobfreak]

Wars are only "won" when you hurt the enemy so bad, they don't want to fight any more. Hamas doesn't really care about Gaza or the Palestinians. Gaza was only a strategic place where Hamas could run their operation and do the most damage to Israel, and those living there were just a source of funding.

Hamas will most likely try to set up shop in another country adjacent to Israel, and eventually continue their attacks. So Israel will have to strike them in those countries as well. You'd think by now that Hamas would be considered to be "poison", and no country would allow them to operate within their borders.

One small tangential point:

All the while 140 countries or whatever are all out there saying how they now recognize "Palestine" as a sovereign country, I've noted that all of the talks, negotiations, and now this 'phase 1' deal by Trump has all been announced, regarded and recorded as being a war-settlement pact between Israel and Hamas.

"Palestine" is not even mentioned anywhere.

Where is Palestine in this agreement? Aren't they in charge of their own country?
Let's face facts: The "Palestinians" are just road apples... a bunch of Arabs without a home no one else wanted that just sort of got shoveled over into the Gaza Strip through no great success nor effort of their own.

They once had a lot more land and Israel offered and agreed to settle it officially as "their place" but the other Arabs stepped in, said, No deal," and decided to fight Israel over it confident they would win 100% back, but instead lost 80%.

Palestinians didn't even fight the war. They were told to get out of the way then come back later after the victory that never happened.

All these countries around the globe better rethink what it is that they recognize.