Israel on Sunday confiscated nearly 1,000 acres of privately owned Palestinian land near an Israeli

[fanger]

Your search - Baz ke goozidi, heyvoun - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

• Make sure that all words are spelled correctly.

 

[fanger]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[toastman]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

Your post is bullshit as usual Monti. Israel has several times offered to give back practically the entire west bank in exchange for peace.
If they wanted to disposess all the non Jews, they could have easily done so following the 1949, 1967 and 1973 wars but instead they allowed most to stay.
Palestinians on the other hand have no intention of making peace. In fact, it is THEM who have clearly showed their intentions to destroy Israel and get rid of all the Jews/Israelis.
Stop lying:

 

[montelatici]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Baz ke goozidi, heyvoun?

The only illegal invaders were the European Jews. The Christians and Muslims had lived there for hundreds and thousands of years. Why do you make crap up?

 

[montelatici]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

Your post is bullshit as usual Monti. Israel has several times offered to give back practically the entire west bank in exchange for peace.
If they wanted to disposess all the non Jews, they could have easily done so following the 1949, 1967 and 1973 wars but instead they allowed most to stay.
Palestinians on the other hand have no intention of making peace. In fact, it is THEM who have clearly showed their intentions to destroy Israel and get rid of all the Jews/Israelis.
Stop lying:

The Jews have never offered to allow the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state, never.

They tried very hard to dispossess all the non-Jews and almost succeeded in 1949 and partially succeeded in 1967 and 1973. If they hadn't, there wouldn't be refugee camps.

The Jews (Zionists) always intended to dispossess the non-Jews as early as the 1920s they confirmed their intention, as you well know and it is no longer speculation that the Jews have never had any intention of permitting the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state in Palestine, as recently confirmed by NuttyYahoo.

You are the biggest liar on the board or have one of the worst cases of cognitive dissonance. The truth is in front of your eyes, heck NuttyYahoo just said no Palestinian state. What was he, kidding?

 

[Phoenall]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

How about you produce some evidence then, as your last 100 attempts failed completely ?

 

[Phoenall]

Of course the Zionist Jews evicted and stole the land from the indigenous Christians and Muslims. They made it clear to the British that they would do so as early as the 1920s.

No they didn't.

Of course they did. They even told the British they planned to do so. This was confirmed in an official communication to the UN, by the UK.

UNITED
NATIONS
A

• 
  General Assembly

A/AC.14/8
2 October 1947

ORIGINAL: ENGLISH
AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION
COMMUNICATION FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM DELEGATION TO
THE UNITED NATIONS

The following letter has been received from the United Kingdom Delegation to the United Nations:

.................................................

"12. Foremost among the exponents of Zionism at that time was Dr. Weizmann. When a Zionist delegation appeared at the Peace Conference in 1919, the American Secretary of State (Mr. Lansing) asked them exactly what was meant by the phrase, a Jewish national home. Dr. Weizmann answered him as follows:-

• 
  “The Zionist organization did not want an autonomous Jewish Government, but merely to establish in Palestine, under a mandatory Power, an administration not necessarily Jewish, which would render it possible to send into Palestine 70 to 80,000 Jews annually. The Zionist Association would require to have permission at the same time to build Jewish schools, where Hebrew would be taught, and in that was to build up gradually a nationality which would be as Jewish as the French nation was French and the British nation British. Later on, when the Jews formed the large majority, they would be ripe to establish such a Government as would answer to the state of the development of the country and to their ideals.”13. The King-Crane Commission, touring Palestine later in the same years, found that the Jewish colonists were similarly looking to a radical transformation of the country:
  • 
    “The fact came out repeatedly in the Commission’s conference with Jewish representatives, that the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, by various forms of purchase.”
    
    A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947

Where does it say anything about wanting to steal land? It says they wanted to purchase land:

"by various forms of purchase"

The use of the word "purchase" in legal English of England does not mean what you think it means it means:

" to acquire (real estate) by means other than descent"

And the evidence shows that the Jewish agency paid for the land many times more than it was worth. So it was PURCHASED in the true sense of the word and not your islamonazi interpretation of English. English is my first language and if you need something explaining then just ask.

 

[montelatici]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

How about you produce some evidence then, as your last 100 attempts failed completely ?

Failed what? Facts don't pass or fail. They are just facts.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course the indigenous people would want to expel the European colonial settler. What is so strange about that? It happened in most former colonies. Algeria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Rhodesia, Kenya etc.

Such a pity then that the true indigenous want to expel the illegal arab muslim immigrants as they have caused all the trouble

 

[Phoenall]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Baz ke goozidi, heyvoun?

The only illegal invaders were the European Jews. The Christians and Muslims had lived there for hundreds and thousands of years. Why do you make crap up?

It is you making crap up as invited immigrants are not illegals. And the muslims had lived there for less than 150 years while the Christians went back to 1099


YOU ARE A PROVEN LIAR AGAIN Abdul

 

[Phoenall]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

Your post is bullshit as usual Monti. Israel has several times offered to give back practically the entire west bank in exchange for peace.
If they wanted to disposess all the non Jews, they could have easily done so following the 1949, 1967 and 1973 wars but instead they allowed most to stay.
Palestinians on the other hand have no intention of making peace. In fact, it is THEM who have clearly showed their intentions to destroy Israel and get rid of all the Jews/Israelis.
Stop lying:

The Jews have never offered to allow the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state, never.

They tried very hard to dispossess all the non-Jews and almost succeeded in 1949 and partially succeeded in 1967 and 1973. If they hadn't, there wouldn't be refugee camps.

The Jews (Zionists) always intended to dispossess the non-Jews as early as the 1920s they confirmed their intention, as you well know and it is no longer speculation that the Jews have never had any intention of permitting the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state in Palestine, as recently confirmed by NuttyYahoo.

You are the biggest liar on the board or have one of the worst cases of cognitive dissonance. The truth is in front of your eyes, heck NuttyYahoo just said no Palestinian state. What was he, kidding?

LIAR even you links say you are a LIAR

 

[Phoenall]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

How about you produce some evidence then, as your last 100 attempts failed completely ?

Failed what? Facts don't pass or fail. They are just facts.

Failed to put any facts that supported your false claims

 

[Phoenall]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Correct and they were invited to migrate and settle by the Ottoman rulers, why did you miss this out of your RACIST ATTACK

 

[eagle1462010]

lets just say that the Jewish immigrants far outnumbered the arab muslim in the west bank in 1948.
agreed

NO lets agree that throughout recent history from 1099 the Jews have far outnumbered the arab muslim population as shown by the Ottoman census records. And that the illegal immigrants have been arab muslims.

The Jews have been a tiny minority, outnumbered by even the Christians as shown by all census records until the Jews evicted the Muslims and Christians. You are such lying piece of crap.

The number of Jews in Palestine prior was described as "a handful" by British demographic surveyors:

AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.



"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine.

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921



The illegal and legal immigration was about 90% Jewish between 1920 and 1946 according to British records, as per below: Only about 10% of the people flooding into Palestine were Christian or Muslim during the Mandate period.

View attachment 39196

Cherry picking only the facts that support your islamonazi propaganda is not being truthfull is it


Here is a definitive report that shows the true figures over an extended period of time


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Jerusalem (After 1291)
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm




Look at the facts from an Ottoman official census on who were the majority in Palestine during their reign. It is not a source that you can very well deny as this would mean you are in breach of your religions commands.

Why do you keep posting the population of Jerusalem and then claim that it refers to Palestine. I don't get your point. Do you think you are fooling anyone?

The facts are also in a documentary film made during Ottoman rule:

Is that the Ottoman's OOPs we forgot to kill them as well video.....................or perhaps preparing to kill a million and a half Armenians in the Syrian Desert.............

Can't count any of those people because they were killed................EXTERMINATED would be the better word for it. Thats where the Mufti of Jerusalem learned his trade and later teamed up with Hitler............You know the guy, Arafat's Uncle..............Family tree shit............as Mr. Muftie created the Arab League to destroy Israel, and the Muslim Brotherhood, and the PLO...................

Let's just forget that history................psst..............they forced a million jews out of their homes back then too.............don't mention that one either.................bad for Radical Propaganda.

 

[fanger]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Correct and they were invited to migrate and settle by the Ottoman rulers, why did you miss this out of your RACIST ATTACK

Between 1856 and 1880, Jewish immigration to Palestine more than doubled, with the majority settling in Jerusalem.[18] The majority of these immigrants wereAshkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe, who subsisted on Halukka.[18]

In 1881–82, a group of Jews arrived from Yemen as a result of messianic fervor.[19][20] After living in the Old City for several years, they moved to the hills facing the City of David, where they lived in caves.[21] In 1884, the community, numbering 200, moved to new stone houses built for them by a Jewish charity.
Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
quoting
a wiki page is now a racist attack ? LOL bunter

 

[toastman]

Coyote, et al,

It is a form of political leverage.

Or is this just another form of collective punishment where the innocent get punished?

(COMMENT)

Just as sanctions and embargoes, which ultimately adversely impact all citizens, is political leverage (not collective punishment), so it is with Area "C" expansion.

Economic sanctions (as a tool of foreign policy) can be used for achieving political gains; or to apply political pressure to effect change. The two key supranational bodies to adopt sanctions measures are the United Nations (“UN”) and the European Union (“EU”). But in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the objectives are localized and impact observable. The State of Israel appears to be expanding settlements (in Area "C") in the absence of good faith negotiations and progress relative to the "permanent status of negotiations" issues found in Article V of the Oslo Accords:

• Jerusalem,
• Refugees,
• Settlements,
• Security arrangements,
• Borders,
• Relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and
• Other issues of common interest.

Sanctions tend to take the form of restrictive/coercive measures. Measures that may be economic, diplomatic or cultural (sometimes military). The objective of Area "C" expansion is a non-violent way to demonstrate that the longer the Arab Palestinians, the greater the impact will be in terms of territorial control. They concept and applications are the same.

• The freezing of Palestinian funds.
• The withdrawal of externally provided financial services.
• Bans or restrictions on trade traffic.
• Bans or restrictions on internal travel and checkpoints.
• The expansion of Settlements.

These pressures are an attempt to:

• Effect a change in the conduct of the Palestinian Government and leadership.
• To place pressure on the general population of the State of Palestine, so that they population transfers that pressure onto the regime or leadership, to seriously address the "permanent status of negotiations" issues --- .
• To deter, prevent and suppress the financing of Jihadist and Fedayeen activities through a variety of Palestinian Terrorist.

UN and EU Sanctions are very similar in nature to the objective of Israeli Settlement Expansion. Historically, the use of economic sanctions alone have a poor track record. Between 1914 and 1990, various countries imposed economic sanctions in 116 cases. They failed to achieve their stated objectives in 66 percent of those cases and were at best only partially successful in most of the rest. The Israeli approach is slightly different, with the ratchet gradually taking more and more territory, effectively reducing the nation building potential. If the expansion has no impact on the Palestinians --- than it merely adds to the capital infrastructure of Israel. If it does have an impact, the hopefully the Palestinians will be eventually persuaded to come back to the negotiating table with a mind to actually craft a workable treaty of peace on the "permanent status of negotiations" issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

" in the absence of good faith negotiations"

Bullshit as usual from Rocco. The Jews have never had any intention of negotiating in good faith. The Jews, since the 1920s, stated clearly that they intended to dispossess the non-Jews in the entire area of Palestine and in the more recent negotiations have never included the establishment of a Palestinian state as a possible outcome of the negotiations. This was confirmed publicly by the prime minister of Israel just a few weeks ago. The Jews are in the process of taking all the land and either continuing to rule over non-Jews in a manner similar to how the whites ruled non-whites in South Africa or force the expulsion of the non-Jews from the entire area of Palestine.

Your post is bullshit as usual Monti. Israel has several times offered to give back practically the entire west bank in exchange for peace.
If they wanted to disposess all the non Jews, they could have easily done so following the 1949, 1967 and 1973 wars but instead they allowed most to stay.
Palestinians on the other hand have no intention of making peace. In fact, it is THEM who have clearly showed their intentions to destroy Israel and get rid of all the Jews/Israelis.
Stop lying:

The Jews have never offered to allow the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state, never.

They tried very hard to dispossess all the non-Jews and almost succeeded in 1949 and partially succeeded in 1967 and 1973. If they hadn't, there wouldn't be refugee camps.

The Jews (Zionists) always intended to dispossess the non-Jews as early as the 1920s they confirmed their intention, as you well know and it is no longer speculation that the Jews have never had any intention of permitting the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state in Palestine, as recently confirmed by NuttyYahoo.

You are the biggest liar on the board or have one of the worst cases of cognitive dissonance. The truth is in front of your eyes, heck NuttyYahoo just said no Palestinian state. What was he, kidding?

Stop changing the subject liar. I'm not talking about right now, we're talking about the past.
Israel DID try to allow the Palestinians to have an independent state, several times. But they rejected each offer . They don't just want a state, they want right of return as well, which will never happen. Ever.

What do you get from lying so much ? Does it make you feel better about yourself ?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So it's ok for a government to confiscate privately owned land?

Old news from August 2014.

It would be stealing the land if they had not won the war in 1967.
It is their land now, to do what they want with it.

Not according to International Law. That's why the UN considers the areas "Occupied Territories". To the UN,
territory taken by force has the status of ill-gotten gains, and cannot be kept by the
victor.

They did not take it by force, they won the 6 days war and it's theirs.
Unlike a treaty agreement, customary international law is usually not written and it is not enforceable.
They don't have to obey the U.N. same as us and any other countries. They and we still have our own freedom and the U.N. is not the dictator at least not yet.

"They did not take it by force, they won the 6 days war and it's theirs."

You are trying to be funny, I guess. If not, reread what you wrote. LOL

Both sides went to war, neither side was innocent of their actions, if the other side would have won, it would be their land.
Who started that war?
In April 1967 Israel's army and air force attacked Syria, in response to Syrian shooting towards an Israeli tractor ploughing in the DMZ.
A process of unwanted escalation, which all sides wanted to prevent, but for which all were ultimately responsible, led to the war.

If the other side had won, they could have claimed they were defending themselves from an Israeli attack (Israel started the war), but I suspect they would have been compelled by the International community to return the land secured by force. That's the law.

The prohibition on territorial conquest is a cornerstone of the international legal order. The United Nations Charter bans the use or threat of force as a tool of international relations, even when used to rectify prior injustices. The sole exception is self-defense. Thus territory taken by force has the status of ill-gotten gains, and cannot be kept by the victor. An important side note is that third-party states cannot recognize the sovereignty of the conqueror (i.e. the sovereignty of Israel over the West bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem) and must treat the acquisition as illegal.

Thus territory taken by force has the status of ill-gotten gains, and cannot be kept by the victor.

Is that why Jordan gave up the land in 1948?

 

[Roudy]

Your search - Baz ke goozidi, heyvoun - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

• Make sure that all words are spelled correctly.

Did you fart again, animal? Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Baz ke goozidi, heyvoun?

The only illegal invaders were the European Jews. The Christians and Muslims had lived there for hundreds and thousands of years. Why do you make crap up?

Jews maintained a presence throughout the millenia. That's a documented fact, liar.


Pre-State Israel: Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel
by Mitchell Bard

A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.

The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.

The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.

The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionistmovement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.

When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not." In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Koran, rather it is called "the holy land" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash).

Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nationssubmitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day Warand Israel's capture of the West Bank.

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolutionof 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.

 

[Roudy]

^^^^
Jews were majority in Jerusalem, the heart of Palestine in 1896. The number above doesn't take into considering the the vast majority of Arabs were illegal invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

Baz ke goozidi, heyvoun?

The only illegal invaders were the European Jews. The Christians and Muslims had lived there for hundreds and thousands of years. Why do you make crap up?

It is you making crap up as invited immigrants are not illegals. And the muslims had lived there for less than 150 years while the Christians went back to 1099


YOU ARE A PROVEN LIAR AGAIN Abdul

He does a good job posing as a Christian who bases his Jew hate on the Bible. Ha ha ha.