Israel Occupation Police breaking the law with children

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Judge rules police broke law in arresting Arab minors during protests
Police have been interrogating minors at night and without their parents present; the court has also received complaints of police violence.

The police broke the law in the arrest and detention of minors in the recent violence in the north in the Arab sector, according to a judge handling the cases. The actions of the police seem to mirror a trend shown by a recent state comptroller’s report on the arrests and processing of suspected youthful offenders.

Most of the cases – in the dozens – in which the police decided to prosecute minors were brought before Nazareth Youth Magistrate’s Court Judge Ilanit Imber to be remanded, rather than to be released by the officer in charge at the police station as the law allows under certain circumstances.

On the afternoon of November 10, Imber was already hearing her 10th case that day – a 14-year-old boy from an Arab village in the north suspected of participation in rioting. Her ruling in the case showed that she had decided to tackle the issue of the police conduct toward not only that teen, but other cases that had come before her during the recent period of unrest.

“This is a 14-year-old without a criminal record who cooperated with investigators and despite Clause 9 of the Youth Law, his parents were not brought in to sit with him during interrogation as the law requires,” the judge said. Imber added other instances in which the police broke the law in this case, noting that the teen was brought in at night without the presence of a parent and no reason was given for the parents not to be with the teen during questioning. “This is the 10th suspect brought before me in this affair and I see that the conduct of the petitioner [the police] with regard to Clause 9 has become systematic with regard to the abrogation of the right of minors to have their parents present.”

Imber also related to complaints by the young suspects of violence against them by police during their arrest or at the police station. She noted that the police had taken the boy to receive medical care without his parents and without reporting the fact to anyone – also in breach of the law.

“In this case I noticed that the minor had been injured in the hand and had been taken for treatment without the knowledge of the parents and with no relative present during the examination. More seriously, the file contains no mention of this nor a medical certificate that shows that the minor was taken for an examination and the court learned of this from the suspect’s attorney,” Inber ruled.

The Youth Law applies to minors from the age of 12 to 18. Among its provisions, it states that a minor up to the age of 14 can be questioned only until 8 P.M. and over the age of 14 until 10 P.M.

One of the law’s most important clauses is that minors should be arrested and held only as a last resort.

The judge noted that at the time of his arrest, the offenses against the youth were not clearly defined “but rather described in a manner not conforming to the Penal Code.” Inber also said in the case of another minor suspected of illegal assembly in one of the disturbances in the north that the parents had not been informed that he was to be questioned. “This minor has no criminal record and although I believe that the evidence substantiates the suspicions and reason for an arrest, I believe that his case should be differentiated from that of other suspects because his part in the events differed from the rest, and noting the failures in the investigation, I have found it proper to significantly restrict the number of days in custody,” the judge ruled.

Judge rules police broke law in arresting Arab minors during protests - National Israel News Haaretz

This is unsurprising as Israeli forces routinely flout laws: Israeli, International, and The Laws of God, if you believe in such things.

That Israeli forces beat children when they are under their care seems to be a routine matter as well.
 
IDF are their favourite target.
 
IDF are their favourite target.

How long did she serve?

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IDF are their favourite target.

How long did she serve?

She didn't. An innocent.
Do you doubt that the killers would prefer to kill IDF?

As I asked Coyote, please tell me how many times they chose to target soldiers, and how many times they targeted whoever was in their way. No, as I see it, they always prefer the innocent. Double the joy if those are small kids.

Should have seen the celebration after the Fogels died. They were on the ninth cloud.
 
Do the Israelis need to modify their procedures for the handling of child-rioters and child terrorists to better align them with some sort of globally-acceptable standards for the handling of child combatants?

If such standards exist, and if they are applicable in this context, and if deficiencies exist in such procedures, on paper and/or in practice at large, then, sure, even the Israelis can sometimes benefit from improvement in their procedures from time to time - one good-sized 'tweak' coming up, perhaps.

Meanwhile, they could also probably stand some revising of procedures for dealing with the parents or guardians of such child combatants.

Like arresting their asses - both parents - interrogating them within an inch of their sanity, then throwing their asses into jail for a long, long time.

If, indeed, they're not doing that very thing already.

Time to make the parents pay, for their negligence or malevolence, in allowing their children to participate in such activities.

It's also time to start destroying places (and people) who offer-up such training to children.
 
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IDF are their favourite target.

How long did she serve?

She didn't. An innocent.
Do you doubt that the killers would prefer to kill IDF?

As I asked Coyote, please tell me how many times they chose to target soldiers, and how many times they targeted whoever was in their way. No, as I see it, they always prefer the innocent. Double the joy if those are small kids.

Should have seen the celebration after the Fogels died. They were on the ninth cloud.

No, that's a lie. Like the lie that Gaza tunnels were there primarily to attack civilians. They were used to kill IDF.
The difficulty for an attacker is that the IDF are usually hard to get at, and repression is so tight that retaliation through a legal process is ineffective.

But IDF targets are preferred when available.
 
The Fogel family were from Itamar. Those areas are crowded with soldiers, so don't give me that nonsense. The killers chose the easy target, 2 and 3 and 4 year olds.
 
Do the Israelis need to modify their procedures for the handling of child-rioters and child terrorists to better align them with some sort of globally-acceptable standards for the handling of child combatants?

If such standards exist, and if they are applicable in this context, and if deficiencies exist in such procedures, on paper and/or in practice at large, then, sure, even the Israelis can sometimes benefit from improvement in their procedures from time to time - one good-sized 'tweak' coming up, perhaps.

Meanwhile, they could also probably stand some revising of procedures for dealing with the parents or guardians of such child combatants.

Like arresting their asses - both parents - interrogating them within an inch of their sanity, then throwing their asses into jail for a long, long time.

If, indeed, they're not doing that very thing already.

Time to make the parents pay, for their negligence or malevolence, in allowing their children to participate in such activities.

It's also time to start destroying places (and people) who offer-up such training to children.

Israelis need to follow the law. They have broken the law. Their own law.
They are lawbreakers.

Simples.
 
Do the Israelis need to modify their procedures for the handling of child-rioters and child terrorists to better align them with some sort of globally-acceptable standards for the handling of child combatants?

If such standards exist, and if they are applicable in this context, and if deficiencies exist in such procedures, on paper and/or in practice at large, then, sure, even the Israelis can sometimes benefit from improvement in their procedures from time to time - one good-sized 'tweak' coming up, perhaps.

Meanwhile, they could also probably stand some revising of procedures for dealing with the parents or guardians of such child combatants.

Like arresting their asses - both parents - interrogating them within an inch of their sanity, then throwing their asses into jail for a long, long time.

If, indeed, they're not doing that very thing already.

Time to make the parents pay, for their negligence or malevolence, in allowing their children to participate in such activities.

It's also time to start destroying places (and people) who offer-up such training to children.

Israelis need to follow the law. They have broken the law. Their own law.
They are lawbreakers.

Simples.
Then they need to tweak their practices, as well as their procedures, in their handling of child-combatants and similar arrest targets.

Followed by a vastly harsher and more aggressive campaign of arrest, interrogation and prosecution and punishment of the parents of these little peckerwoods.
 
You are an extremist Kondor.

Changing law to allow more brutal treatment of children would still be illegal, only the change would put Israel into the category of states which break international law on the treatment of children.
 
You are an extremist Kondor.

Changing law to allow more brutal treatment of children would still be illegal, only the change would put Israel into the category of states which break international law on the treatment of children.
Wrong, my little Muslim Lord Haw-Haw...

Go back and re-read my modest contribution on the subject in the past two or three posts...

I am calling for the Israelis to review their handling of child-combatants in order to ensure that they are better aligned with globally-acceptable standards in such matters...

Tee-hee...

Whoops...
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15th post
I've never sold my body for money.

Reading your posts is always a waste of life Kondor. Re reading them would be an exercise in futility.
 
I've never sold my body for money.

Reading your posts is always a waste of life Kondor. Re reading them would be an exercise in futility.
Translation...

"I was wrong. You called me out on it. I lack the intellectual courage to admit I was wrong. So I'll try to cover my tracks by insulting you. Sorry."

Apology accepted.

Punk.
 
I've never sold my body for money.

Reading your posts is always a waste of life Kondor. Re reading them would be an exercise in futility.
Translation...

"I was wrong. You called me out on it. I lack the intellectual courage to admit I was wrong. So I'll try to cover my tracks by insulting you. Sorry."

Apology accepted.

Punk.

How about this Kondor: You make up your own discussions from now on, as you do now, so you can always win. :D
Only, you do it at home with a crayon, so we don't get interrupted by your idiocy?

There. A solution which will fit all needs!
 
I've never sold my body for money.

Reading your posts is always a waste of life Kondor. Re reading them would be an exercise in futility.
Translation...

"I was wrong. You called me out on it. I lack the intellectual courage to admit I was wrong. So I'll try to cover my tracks by insulting you. Sorry."

Apology accepted.

Punk.

How about this Kondor: You make up your own discussions from now on, as you do now, so you can always win. :D
Only, you do it at home with a crayon, so we don't get interrupted by your idiocy?

There. A solution which will fit all needs!
You really are a child.

You accuse someone (me) of advocating for harsher Israeli law for dealing with child-combatants.

I deny your accusation and challenge you to show us where I did any such thing.

You realize that your knee-jerk reactions caused you to make an unrecoverable mistake.

You demonstrated a lack of honesty and intellectual courage by being unable to admit your mistake.

I called attention to your deficiency of character.

You continue to attempt to distract and deflect, in a desperate and doomed attempt to cover your tracks and to save face.

And I'm the one playing with crayons?

Yeah... right... you tell 'em, Junior.

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Any other brilliant observations to share with the class, or has your intellectual cowardice run its course yet in this context?
 
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