Israel as a Jewish State= poison pill?

[aris2chat]

If Palestine recognizing Israel as the Jewish state was soo important, they would have demanded it years ago.

But they didn't. Its merely an attempt to kill the peace process.

Next Israel will demand that Palestine recognize the Jews as God's Chosen People.

they have. League, mandate, UN all state Israel is supposed to be a jewish state.

 

[P F Tinmore]

If Palestine recognizing Israel as the Jewish state was soo important, they would have demanded it years ago.

But they didn't. Its merely an attempt to kill the peace process.

Next Israel will demand that Palestine recognize the Jews as God's Chosen People.

they have. League, mandate, UN all state Israel is supposed to be a jewish state.

Links?

 

[Phoenall]

The Oslo Accords did not require Palestine recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

The Camp David negotiations didn't demand Palestine recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

The Taba negotiations didn't demand Palestine recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

Ehud Olmert's plan didn't demand Palestine recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

What exactly has changed?

Is this new demand simply an attempt by Israel to poison negotiations?

Looks that way.

Yet another fail child

The LOR agree that Israel is a Jewish state

Taba is just a continuation of Oslo.

Didn't need to as it was a given

The intransigence of the Palestinians to settle peacefully. They are in breach of Oslo every day, and if you had read Oslo you would see that the settlements are part and parcel of the economic deal.
Detailed in this :-

Annex 4: Regional development

The two sides will cooperate in the context of the multilateral peace efforts in promoting a Development Program for the region, including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, to be initiated by the G7 countries.


Making the settlements legal and agreed on

 

[Phoenall]

It has been a pre-requisite that Palestine recognize Israel. It ain't gonna change. Looks that way.

Palestine has recognized Israel. Just as Jordan and Egypt has.

But not as a Jewish state.

If recognizing Israel as a "jewish" state was soo important, Israel would have demanded it during Oslo, Camp David, Taba, and the Olmert plan.

They did once they realised that the Palestinians were not prepared to accept Israel as a Jewish state as it would hinder their plan to over run Israel from the inside.

 

[Phoenall]

Nobody cares if some dusty arab losers don't recognize Israel as whatever.

Israel refuses to sign a peace treaty with Palestine, if they refuse to recognize Israel as a "jewish" state.

Palestine refuses to sign a peace treaty with Israel if they don't leave Palestine and go and live elsewhere.

Now which is the one holding up the peace process ?

 

[Victory67]

Yet another fail child

The LOR agree that Israel is a Jewish state

Taba is just a continuation of Oslo.

Didn't need to as it was a given

The intransigence of the Palestinians to settle peacefully. They are in breach of Oslo every day, and if you had read Oslo you would see that the settlements are part and parcel of the economic deal.
Detailed in this :-

Annex 4: Regional development

The two sides will cooperate in the context of the multilateral peace efforts in promoting a Development Program for the region, including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, to be initiated by the G7 countries.


Making the settlements legal and agreed on

He has lost, he knows he has lost and he shows it in true commie fashion by hurling insults.

Oslo says nothing about Israel being a Jewish state.

its just a poison pill.

 

[Phoenall]

The arabs lost a ******* long time ago. Israel doesn't need to sign a peace treaty with useless arabs on land that they'll eventually own anyways.

Israel seems to really want a peace treaty with the Arabs.

Not really they are being pushed into talks by the rest of the world, so they go sit down stand up and leave. The rest of the world sees that the arabs don't want peace and leave Israel alone for another 5 years or so

 

[jillian]

According to the UN Resolution 181 Israel is a Jewish State. Deal with it cherrieKKKins.

notice the pathetic hate-filled cretin doesn't say boo about muslim states.

I wonder if it gets paid for its propaganda

 

[Phoenall]

this is the essence of the conflict. If the palestinians would recognize israel as a jewish state, they would stop trying to destroy it.

lol!!!! That's the cure to the conflict?

Why didn't they say so years ago?

they did

 

[jillian]

Nobody cares if some dusty arab losers don't recognize Israel as whatever.

Israel refuses to sign a peace treaty with Palestine, if they refuse to recognize Israel as a "jewish" state.

This is the essence of the conflict. If the Palestinians would recognize Israel as a Jewish state, they would stop trying to destroy it.

that isn't really the essence of it.... if the Palestinians would stop allowing their TERRORISTS to attack Israel, then Israel wouldn't retaliate.

 

[Victory67]

notice the pathetic hate-filled cretin doesn't say boo about muslim states.

I wonder if it gets paid for its propaganda

I love how you guys whine about me not complaining about Muslim states, even though this thread is about Israel and complaining about Muslim states would derail the thread.

Now, do you agree that the Jewish state demand is simply a poison pill? You should.

 

[Phoenall]

If Palestine recognizing Israel as the Jewish state was soo important, they would have demanded it years ago.

But they didn't. Its merely an attempt to kill the peace process.

Next Israel will demand that Palestine recognize the Jews as God's Chosen People.

They did and here are the links to show so

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...nians-can-t-recognize-a-jewish-state-1.382091 Sep. 2, 2011

Arafat Recognized Jewish State, Why Won't Abbas? | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

Arafat also unequivocally accepted Israel’s Jewish character during a 2004 interview. Asked whether Israel should endure as a Jewish state, Arafat’s reply simply was “Definitely.”

Abbas Refuses to Recognise Israel as Jewish State « ASHARQ AL-AWSAT Monday, 27 Apr, 2009


And if we go back to Res 181 in 1947 it clearly says a Jewish state, and the P.A. wants to use that as the basis of the recognition of Palestine as a state. So why wont they recognise Israel as the one and only Jewish state.

 

[Phoenall]

the State of Israel is the same as saying a Jewish state

legitimacy of the national rights of the Jewish people

recognize Israel as a Jewish state

Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people

the Jewish character of Israel

acknowledge Israel as a Jewish state

accepting a Jewish state alongside a palestinian state

Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state

the Jewish nation

acceptance not of its religious identity but of its ethnic and national character as the nation-state of the Jewish people

Israel as the Jewish state or the homeland of the Jewish people

Israel to be recognized as the nation-state of Israel for the Jewish people

Time you learn to say these over and over till they become natural to you. Practice makes perfect.

Acceptance and recognition means peace.

Good to hear it.

The PLO recognized the State of Israel years ago, and they are more than willing to make a peace treaty with The State of Israel again.

Another fail child as the PLO through Arafat recognised Israel as a Jewish state

 

[Phoenall]

Yet another fail child

The LOR agree that Israel is a Jewish state

Taba is just a continuation of Oslo.

Didn't need to as it was a given

The intransigence of the Palestinians to settle peacefully. They are in breach of Oslo every day, and if you had read Oslo you would see that the settlements are part and parcel of the economic deal.
Detailed in this :-

Annex 4: Regional development

The two sides will cooperate in the context of the multilateral peace efforts in promoting a Development Program for the region, including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, to be initiated by the G7 countries.


Making the settlements legal and agreed on

He has lost, he knows he has lost and he shows it in true commie fashion by hurling insults.

Oslo says nothing about Israel being a Jewish state.

its just a poison pill.

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yet another fail child

The LOR agree that Israel is a Jewish state

Taba is just a continuation of Oslo.

Didn't need to as it was a given

The intransigence of the Palestinians to settle peacefully. They are in breach of Oslo every day, and if you had read Oslo you would see that the settlements are part and parcel of the economic deal.
Detailed in this :-

Annex 4: Regional development

The two sides will cooperate in the context of the multilateral peace efforts in promoting a Development Program for the region, including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, to be initiated by the G7 countries.


Making the settlements legal and agreed on

He has lost, he knows he has lost and he shows it in true commie fashion by hurling insults.

Oslo says nothing about Israel being a Jewish state.

its just a poison pill.

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

That recognition was a part of a peace process that has never been finalized as a peace agreement. Until then, is is just a proposed, non binding concession.

 

[Victory67]

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

Arafat never accepted Israel as a Jewish state.

He simply recognized Israel's right to exist.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

Arafat never accepted Israel as a Jewish state.

He simply recognized Israel's right to exist.

And Arafat was the foreign appointed, unelected representative of the Palestinian people so what he said must be binding.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

Arafat never accepted Israel as a Jewish state.

He simply recognized Israel's right to exist.

And Arafat was the foreign appointed, unelected representative of the Palestinian people so what he said must be binding.

Most Israeli supporters despise Arafart. I'm surprised you agree with us on that. Most Palestinian supporters look on him as a George Washington-type figure.

 

[Phoenall]

Oslo says nothing about Israel being a Jewish state.

its just a poison pill.

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

That recognition was a part of a peace process that has never been finalized as a peace agreement. Until then, is is just a proposed, non binding concession.

Do you mean like the Treaty of Lausanne ?

 

[Phoenall]

The Letters of Recognition do and they were part of Oslo 1 and Oslo 2.

It is also part of the original Mandate of Palestine and the UN res 181, which abbas is using to get recognition as a state. If Arafat can accept Israel as a Jewish state why cant abbas

Arafat never accepted Israel as a Jewish state.

He simply recognized Israel's right to exist.

I have given you the link that shows he accepted Israel as a JEWISH STATE twice.