Is the Media Overplaying Covid "Increases" Right Now ?

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The number of reported cases of COVID infections will go down dramatically if you would just stop testing for it...just ask Trump, self proclaimed expert on the subject.
Well, now we agree. Oh, so the number of cases are up, are they ? Well, guess what. So are the number of tests administered. Duh!

And Trump's expertise on the subject of Covid isn't just from his own proclamation. It's also from the 94% REDUCTION in the Covid death rate since last April.

. . and if we did testing for the normal cold and flu? I am sure those will be up too when that season rolls around? So what?

It doesn't mean we should destroy the civilized world, inject the economy with fiat money and create a whole new system that will empower some, and destroy the lives of others, there is something sinister going on. . .
Not to mention what, exactly, will be included in those "live-saving" vaccinations?
 

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Covid-19 is less dangerous than seasonal flu to a large majority of the population. For the few who are particularly vulnerable, protective measures are appropriate. For the rest, these measures are nothing more than a fear mongering hoax to influence the election.
When was the last time the seasonal flu killed 200,000 people in 6 months? Or 250,000 in 8 months?

On average the INFLUENZA virus kills 35,000 in a year's time...in the USA. In 2018 season the flu killed 23000 in the USA, in 2017 we had a strenuous flu, of which was not included in the flu shot, and about 65000 died.

The CORONA virus is NOT an influenza virus.
We have no reliable information that this panicdemic has killed even as many as a common cold/flu. Yet the likes of you will swallow the koolaide wholesale if you think it will damage your hated nemesis. Hatred the level you carry with you is really quite damaging to your psyche.
 

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Looks like the answer to that may be YES, indeed. And how convenient just 2 weeks bfore the 2020 presidential election. It is readily apparent that the US media generally, is at the present little, little more than an arm of the Joe Biden presidential campaign. Can we trust what we are hearing from them about Covid ? What you read here may answer that.

This morning on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, a graphic was posted up showing 85,085 "new cases" of coronavirus have shown up (I didn't catch what unit of time that is), with Wallace yammering that this is a bad number. The graphic also stated that hospitalizations are up in 38 states. The word "spiking" seems to be popular with media pundits right now. Sounds bad, huh ?

Right after this, I saw/heard these same figures being told on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd, and then on Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan. Well, this is what the anti-Trump media does so often. Let's take a closer look.

First of all, ALL ALONG over the past six months there have continually been some states where Covid was spiking (rising), other states level, and some other states diminishing. But to talk only about the ones where it is going up, gives the impression that this is some much worse condition than before.

One must be careful when viewing graphs. Here's is one that looks like it is the change in the number of US hospitalizations of Covid. >>

View attachment 406525

It looks like Covid cases are going up now , and have continually been going up since March. Now try treading the FINE PRINT. It states that the graph's figures are from 100 counties in the Emerging Infections Program states (10 states), + 4 Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Project states.

So the graph covers 100 counties in 14 states (leaving 97% of US counties not included in this data).
So, now that you all have been thoroughly scared to death from the media reports (not having read the fine print), let's look at what the liberal OMISSION media is OMITTING, and NOT telling us.

First, I (not reading the fine print inititally) was puzzled by this graph (shown above) because of mistakenly thinking it applies to the whole country. I recently posted a US hospitalization graph from the CDC that showed hospitalizations were DOWN 37%. So how could they have always been going up ? Here is that graph >>

View attachment 406533

Well, the fine print explains why these 2 graphs are contradictory.

So this graph which I posted is from last month, and only up to September 19. So could there have been a sudden "spiking" in Covid cases during this month of October ? I went to the CDC website again, and checked their up-to-date information on US NATIONWIDE Covid cases, and guess what. The new graph hardly looks a bit different than the September one. Here is THAT graph which shows the hospitalization rate (the gray line) actually going DOWN over the last 2 weeks (up to October 17) >>

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85000 New people tested positive in ONE DAY.... one day was the time period

One week ago, we were getting New covid positive cases of almost 40,000 New positive cases a day, then 6 days ago about 45000 a day, then 5 days ago it went to 56000 New cases, then 4 days ago it went up to 62000 New cases a day, then the next day 70,000 New cases a day, then it went to 75000, and now over 80,000 New cases in a day.

Something's Happening Here..... the second wave is hitting.

Yes, thank goodness they are younger, but every kid has a parent, and grand parents and teacher, who is older and more vulnerable.... hospitalizations and deaths come later... the more infections, lead to more hospitalizations and unnecessary deaths....

It's really pretty simple, to understand.
 

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Covid-19 is less dangerous than seasonal flu to a large majority of the population. For the few who are particularly vulnerable, protective measures are appropriate. For the rest, these measures are nothing more than a fear mongering hoax to influence the election.
When was the last time the seasonal flu killed 200,000 people in 6 months? Or 250,000 in 8 months?

On average the INFLUENZA virus kills 35,000 in a year's time...in the USA. In 2018 season the flu killed 23000 in the USA, in 2017 we had a strenuous flu, of which was not included in the flu shot, and about 65000 died.

The CORONA virus is NOT an influenza virus.
We have no reliable information that this panicdemic has killed even as many as a common cold/flu. Yet the likes of you will swallow the koolaide wholesale if you think it will damage your hated nemesis. Hatred the level you carry with you is really quite damaging to your psyche.
:lol: there is rock solid proof gallant, except for the blind, ignorant, and conspirators....it's available for you to research and sharp shoot.... but you choose the easy way out it seems.... just deny it.... sad, indeed.
 

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Covid-19 is less dangerous than seasonal flu to a large majority of the population. For the few who are particularly vulnerable, protective measures are appropriate. For the rest, these measures are nothing more than a fear mongering hoax to influence the election.
When was the last time the seasonal flu killed 200,000 people in 6 months? Or 250,000 in 8 months?

On average the INFLUENZA virus kills 35,000 in a year's time...in the USA. In 2018 season the flu killed 23000 in the USA, in 2017 we had a strenuous flu, of which was not included in the flu shot, and about 65000 died.

The CORONA virus is NOT an influenza virus.
Your talking to a cult whose leader said the virus outbreak is overblown and not that serious so good luck.
 

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Looks like the answer to that may be YES, indeed. And how convenient just 2 weeks bfore the 2020 presidential election. It is readily apparent that the US media generally, is at the present little, little more than an arm of the Joe Biden presidential campaign. Can we trust what we are hearing from them about Covid ? What you read here may answer that.

This morning on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, a graphic was posted up showing 85,085 "new cases" of coronavirus have shown up (I didn't catch what unit of time that is), with Wallace yammering that this is a bad number. The graphic also stated that hospitalizations are up in 38 states. The word "spiking" seems to be popular with media pundits right now. Sounds bad, huh ?

Right after this, I saw/heard these same figures being told on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd, and then on Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan. Well, this is what the anti-Trump media does so often. Let's take a closer look.

First of all, ALL ALONG over the past six months there have continually been some states where Covid was spiking (rising), other states level, and some other states diminishing. But to talk only about the ones where it is going up, gives the impression that this is some much worse condition than before.

One must be careful when viewing graphs. Here's is one that looks like it is the change in the number of US hospitalizations of Covid. >>

View attachment 406525

It looks like Covid cases are going up now , and have continually been going up since March. Now try treading the FINE PRINT. It states that the graph's figures are from 100 counties in the Emerging Infections Program states (10 states), + 4 Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Project states.

So the graph covers 100 counties in 14 states (leaving 97% of US counties not included in this data).
So, now that you all have been thoroughly scared to death from the media reports (not having read the fine print), let's look at what the liberal OMISSION media is OMITTING, and NOT telling us.

First, I (not reading the fine print inititally) was puzzled by this graph (shown above) because of mistakenly thinking it applies to the whole country. I recently posted a US hospitalization graph from the CDC that showed hospitalizations were DOWN 37%. So how could they have always been going up ? Here is that graph >>

View attachment 406533

Well, the fine print explains why these 2 graphs are contradictory.

So this graph which I posted is from last month, and only up to September 19. So could there have been a sudden "spiking" in Covid cases during this month of October ? I went to the CDC website again, and checked their up-to-date information on US NATIONWIDE Covid cases, and guess what. The new graph hardly looks a bit different than the September one. Here is THAT graph which shows the hospitalization rate (the gray line) actually going DOWN over the last 2 weeks (up to October 17) >>

View attachment 406540
85000 New people tested positive in ONE DAY.... one day was the time period

One week ago, we were getting New covid positive cases of almost 40,000 New positive cases a day, then 6 days ago about 45000 a day, then 5 days ago it went to 56000 New cases, then 4 days ago it went up to 62000 New cases a day, then the next day 70,000 New cases a day, then it went to 75000, and now over 80,000 New cases in a day.

Something's Happening Here..... the second wave is hitting.

Yes, thank goodness they are younger, but every kid has a parent, and grand parents and teacher, who is older and more vulnerable.... hospitalizations and deaths come later... the more infections, lead to more hospitalizations and unnecessary deaths....

It's really pretty simple, to understand.
Something is happening, clearly a fictional hysteria which we are all supposed to suck down with our koolaide ration. You are welcome to my portion because I am not so stupid. Thanks.
 

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Covid-19 is less dangerous than seasonal flu to a large majority of the population. For the few who are particularly vulnerable, protective measures are appropriate. For the rest, these measures are nothing more than a fear mongering hoax to influence the election.
When was the last time the seasonal flu killed 200,000 people in 6 months? Or 250,000 in 8 months?

On average the INFLUENZA virus kills 35,000 in a year's time...in the USA. In 2018 season the flu killed 23000 in the USA, in 2017 we had a strenuous flu, of which was not included in the flu shot, and about 65000 died.

The CORONA virus is NOT an influenza virus.
We have no reliable information that this panicdemic has killed even as many as a common cold/flu. Yet the likes of you will swallow the koolaide wholesale if you think it will damage your hated nemesis. Hatred the level you carry with you is really quite damaging to your psyche.
:lol: there is rock solid proof gallant, except for the blind, ignorant, and conspirators....it's available for you to research and sharp shoot.... but you choose the easy way out it seems.... just deny it.... sad, indeed.
Pretty hilarious, really. Where I live, masks are optional and your anti-social distancing is non-existent. Funny, not finding bodies stacked like cordwood along the streets. Actually, it looks a lot like business as usual here. You can keep your suffocating face diapers...
 

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The numbers are what you wanted..... You wanted lock down you got it that simple.

They are the covid numbers dipshit....and most everybody knows the difference including the though of course this pretend not to.
Except the economy was going into Recession before Covid Hit, and Trump's bad reaction to Covid made it all that much worse compared to Japan or the European Union.

Post-panicdemic statistics. Look at the beginning of the year. Oh, wait, that would negate the current narrative. Seriously, go die of covid...if you can. Often difficult to die of imagination.
Point is, the election wasn't held in January, it's being held in 9 days AFTER Trump's mishandling of Covid.
 
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:lol: there is rock solid proof gallant, except for the blind, ignorant, and conspirators....it's available for you to research and sharp shoot.... but you choose the easy way out it seems.... just deny it.... sad, indeed.
YOU are the "blind, ignorant, and conspirators" But no need to be DUPED. YES, there sure is rock solid proof available for you to research, and HERE IT IS >>

The Florida Department of Health provided 13,920 COVID-19 death certificates to House staff members for analysis. Sixty percent of the death certificates had reporting errors and, the analysis said, did not adhere “to the national standards for completion of death certificates in general and guidelines for COVID-19 related deaths in particular.”

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidelines include in the death total all deaths in which positive COVID-19 tests are known. Florida abides by the guidelines.

“Any ‘current’ count of COVID-19 deaths is more accurately described as the number of people with COVID-19 who died, rather than those who died from COVID-19,” the analysis said.

wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu

Florida House Speaker Questions COVID-19 Death Toll
Speaker Jose Oliva, R-Miami Lakes, says death rates may have been inflated due to incorrect data.
wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu
wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield acknowledged Friday that the number of COVID-19 deaths could be inflated where someone who had the virus actually died from something else, but it was recorded as a COVID death.

At a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing, titled, “The Urgent Need for a National Plan to Contain the Coronavirus,” Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-Mo.) said he wished that Admiral Brett Giroir, assistant secretary for health at HHS, didn’t have to leave the hearing early, because the last time he appeared before the committee, they discussed the incentive for people in the medical field to claim someone died of COVID just to get more money.

CDC Director: ‘I Think You’re Correct’ About Inflated COVID Death Statistics
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield acknowledged Friday that the number of COVID-19 deaths could be inflated where someone who had the virus actually died from something else, but it was recorded as a COVID death.

townhall.com

Here's How NYC's Coronavirus Death Toll Is Being Inflated
Wow.
townhall.com
townhall.com

www.abc15.com

Are deaths unrelated to COVID-19 being marked as COVID-19?
The claim: Arizonans who are suspected to have COVID-19 and have died in recent months have all been marked as COVID-19, even if they did not die from COVID-19.
www.abc15.com
www.abc15.com

IN ADDITION:

“We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” County Supervisor Jim Desmond said on the radio show Armstrong & Getty Extra Large Interviews., The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. San Diego County had reported roughly 190 deaths at the time — the current number is 200.

In short, Desmond was suggesting that while COVID-19 may have contributed to the 190 deaths, most of those deaths were due in part to previous, unrelated health concerns.

Indeed, the disease has proven most deadly for people with underlying health conditions, so it stands to reason that “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” would be the minority — perhaps even just 3.2 percent of the total recorded deaths, as Desmond suggested.

As of Friday afternoon, (May 2020) there have been 87,218 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. If Desmond’s claim is accurate and if that 3.2 percent rate holds across the country, and discounting the death certificate inflation, that would mean there are only 2,891 “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” in the U.S.

pjmedia.com

Just How Inflated Are Coronavirus Death Counts, Exactly?
There have likely been fewer Coronavirus deaths than reported. "Pure, solely coronavirus deaths" may be only 3.2 percent of the total. The numbers are inflated.
pjmedia.com
pjmedia.com

As of October 23, 2020, the CDC reports 209, 568 US deaths WITH (not from) Covid. If the 3.2% number cited by Jim Desmond is correct, as it well may be, then that would give us a total of 6,706 “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” in the U.S.
 
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Your talking to a cult whose leader said the virus outbreak is overblown and not that serious so good luck.
There is too much evidence of massively inflated numbers, clear monetary motive, and pandemic exaggeration, to call the "overblown" conclusion a "cult"
 

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There is too much evidence of massively inflated numbers, clear monetary motive, and pandemic exaggeration, to call the "overblown" conclusion a "cult"
Yes, yes, this Covid thing is all a plot to make Trump look bad.

And Trump let it happen.

That doesn't make him look very smart.

Look, you guys need to make up your mind. Is Covid a Hoax meant to take down Trump, or a Chinese Bio-weapon meant to take down Trump. It really can't be both.

It can easily be exactly what it appears. A Public Health Crisis made a lot worse due to Presidential Neglect.
 

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Looks like the answer to that may be YES, indeed. And how convenient just 2 weeks bfore the 2020 presidential election. It is readily apparent that the US media generally, is at the present little, little more than an arm of the Joe Biden presidential campaign. Can we trust what we are hearing from them about Covid ? What you read here may answer that.

This morning on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, a graphic was posted up showing 85,085 "new cases" of coronavirus have shown up (I didn't catch what unit of time that is), with Wallace yammering that this is a bad number. The graphic also stated that hospitalizations are up in 38 states. The word "spiking" seems to be popular with media pundits right now. Sounds bad, huh ?

Right after this, I saw/heard these same figures being told on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd, and then on Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan. Well, this is what the anti-Trump media does so often. Let's take a closer look.

First of all, ALL ALONG over the past six months there have continually been some states where Covid was spiking (rising), other states level, and some other states diminishing. But to talk only about the ones where it is going up, gives the impression that this is some much worse condition than before.

One must be careful when viewing graphs. Here's is one that looks like it is the change in the number of US hospitalizations of Covid. >>

View attachment 406525

It looks like Covid cases are going up now , and have continually been going up since March. Now try treading the FINE PRINT. It states that the graph's figures are from 100 counties in the Emerging Infections Program states (10 states), + 4 Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Project states.

So the graph covers 100 counties in 14 states (leaving 97% of US counties not included in this data).
So, now that you all have been thoroughly scared to death from the media reports (not having read the fine print), let's look at what the liberal OMISSION media is OMITTING, and NOT telling us.

First, I (not reading the fine print inititally) was puzzled by this graph (shown above) because of mistakenly thinking it applies to the whole country. I recently posted a US hospitalization graph from the CDC that showed hospitalizations were DOWN 37%. So how could they have always been going up ? Here is that graph >>

View attachment 406533

Well, the fine print explains why these 2 graphs are contradictory.

So this graph which I posted is from last month, and only up to September 19. So could there have been a sudden "spiking" in Covid cases during this month of October ? I went to the CDC website again, and checked their up-to-date information on US NATIONWIDE Covid cases, and guess what. The new graph hardly looks a bit different than the September one. Here is THAT graph which shows the hospitalization rate (the gray line) actually going DOWN over the last 2 weeks (up to October 17) >>

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Covid deaths are down even as cases go up, great news
 

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There's not much doubt that these death statistics are greatly inflated. But no matter how many people actually died of COVID, Trump was still the world's best leader when it comes to his COVID response. And I'm pretty sure he would have done much better if he didn't have so many Democrats actively working against him. This whole pandemic has been much more political than science based, at least in our defective MSM. Our media has been a disgrace in their coverage of the pandemic and the election. The absolute best thing anyone can do at this point is stick with Trump.
 

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Covid-19 is less dangerous than seasonal flu to a large majority of the population. For the few who are particularly vulnerable, protective measures are appropriate. For the rest, these measures are nothing more than a fear mongering hoax to influence the election.
When was the last time the seasonal flu killed 200,000 people in 6 months? Or 250,000 in 8 months?

On average the INFLUENZA virus kills 35,000 in a year's time...in the USA. In 2018 season the flu killed 23000 in the USA, in 2017 we had a strenuous flu, of which was not included in the flu shot, and about 65000 died.

The CORONA virus is NOT an influenza virus.
The influenza of 1968.

We didn't destroy the world's economy or rearrange the entire world's economy over that then, why should we now?


 
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The more I hear and research about Covid, the more it looks like a Democrat engineered, election-related SCAM.
 
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Covid deaths are down even as cases go up, great news
Yeah, It IS great news but it's actually not "news". Covid deaths have been dropping rapidly ever since April, 6 months ago. As for the cases going up, As Trump correctly said, that's only because there has been such a big increase in testing.
 
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The influenza of 1968.

We didn't destroy the world's economy or rearrange the entire world's economy over that then, why should we now?
So Democrats can advize lockdowns, to kill the economy, and take away Donald Trump's # 1 selling point for re-election > the ECONOMY.
 

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The influenza of 1968.

We didn't destroy the world's economy or rearrange the entire world's economy over that then, why should we now?
So Democrats can advize lockdowns, to kill the economy, and take away Donald Trump's # 1 selling point for re-election > the ECONOMY.
This video was banned on YouTube. . I think you are too attached to Trump and the false left/right duopololy, which is what the controllers want, IMO.


The BlackRock Take Over Of America, Brought To You By COVID-19

If you want to learn stuff, you probably would rather not know, here you go.





It's yours if you want it.

 
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This video was banned on YouTube. . I think you are too attached to Trump and the false left/right duopololy, which is what the controllers want, IMO.


The BlackRock Take Over Of America, Brought To You By COVID-19

If you want to learn stuff, you probably would rather not know, here you go.





It's yours if you want it.

You got a shorter version ? Like maybe 200 WORDS or less ?
 

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This video was banned on YouTube. . I think you are too attached to Trump and the false left/right duopololy, which is what the controllers want, IMO.


The BlackRock Take Over Of America, Brought To You By COVID-19

If you want to learn stuff, you probably would rather not know, here you go.





It's yours if you want it.

You got a shorter version ? Like maybe 200 WORDS or less ?
If you can't handle the 15 minute excerpt? You aren't prepared for the 1 hr. 50 podcast.

This is as important as the global oligarchs subverting our democracy in 1913, originally, with the Federal Reserve ?. . . and you want it in 200 words or less? :auiqs.jpg:

. . . you don't want to know what is coming, forgot about it.
 

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