Iran and "To Be Or Not To Be"

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1. The literate among us recognize the quote, Hamlet revealing his greatest problem: indecision.
Is there a principle that prevents America from actively aiding Israel in destroying the 7th century fanatics' nuclear propensities???
In today's Free Press, a comparison is made between Trump possibly using American bombers to destroy Fordow, and Churchill's attacking France's navy and killing 1300 French sailors.




2. "There are some moments in history when a sudden act of opportune ruthlessness readjusts the world toward a safer path.
Preemptive action sometimes works, but it requires remarkable leadership qualities. Does President Trump have them?




3. ...if Iran’s centrifuges are still spinning in its nuclear facility 300 feet underground at Fordow, then Israel will have only scored a tactical win, rather than the strategic victory she needed. The successes against the upper echelons of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, military high command, and nuclear scientists are commendable, but nothing like enough. Only the United States has the 30,000-pound “bunker-busting” bombs necessary to shatter Iranian nuclear ambitions. So what does Trump do then?





4. If Trump has before him the Churchillian option, it is not hard to see who represents Neville Chamberlain in all of this. President Obama’s adamant and repeated refusal to help the Iranian opposition—either overtly or covertly—during his eight years in office wrecked its brave efforts to replace the regime, and gave the lie to his pretensions to be a new John F. Kennedy. His cringing, appeasing Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) utterly failed to stop the sinister, inexorable spinning of the centrifuges, and came at the cost of lifting key sanctions and unfreezing assets.




5. ....President Trump would never deserve the Nobel Peace Prize more than if he destroyed Iran’s capacity for nuclear blackmail. For once Iran goes nuclear and thus becomes inviolate, it is only a matter of time before it acquires the intercontinental delivery systems that will threaten the rest of the world, including the United States."
 
The Free Press compared Churchill's attack on the French fleet to Trump's choice about attacking iran.

" Wednesday July 3, 1940, Winston Churchill had a decision before him as hard as any he ever had to take in his long career of statesmanship. If the Vichy French fleet stationed at Oran in Algeria were to fall into German hands, as seemed highly likely, it would, when combined with the German and Italian navies, pose an existential threat to his country, which after the Fall of France was already gearing itself up for the Battle of Britain.

The French admiral would neither hand his fleet over to the Royal Navy, scuttle it, nor sail it to Canada. So, after some anguished heartache, the lifelong Francophile Churchill ordered it to be sunk, which it was with the loss of 1,299 French sailors."


For you history wonks, I wonder if you agree with me, that I would have used this choice for Churchill:
"Did Winston Churchill, nervous about the Germans discovering that U.K. cypher-crackers had broken their Enigma codes, fail to act on intelligence warning of a Luftwaffe raid against Coventry in November of 1940?"

Whether the story is true or not, he did allow the attack. That is an example of a moral dilemma.
 
The Persians have been "just months away from a nuclear bomb" for over 20 years.

Just stop it already.
Stop what?

Saying that they are the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism?

Recogniing that they are waiting for the 12th Imam to come up from a well and begin world conflagration?

That they are enriching uranium to weapons grade?

That they have plenty of oil and no need for weapons grade uranium?

That the would have no compunctions about using nuclear weapons?

I live in the city that was attacked on 9/11.


Just stop pretending that you don't believe everything I just wrote.
 
Stop what?

Saying that they are the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism?

Recogniing that they are waiting for the 12th Imam to come up from a well and begin world conflagration?

That they are enriching uranium to weapons grade?

That they have plenty of oil and no need for weapons grade uranium?

That the would have no compunctions about using nuclear weapons?

I live in the city that was attacked on 9/11.


Just stop pretending that you don't believe everything I just wrote.
Thanks for sharing, Mark Levin.
 
Thanks for sharing, Mark Levin.
follow Lincoln's dictum: "Stand with anybody that stands RIGHT. Stand with him while he is right and PART with him when he goes wrong." Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (October 16, 1854)
 
follow Lincoln's dictum: "Stand with anybody that stands RIGHT. Stand with him while he is right and PART with him when he goes wrong." Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (October 16, 1854)
Sorry, historic quotes can't get you out of your hysterical appeal to emotion.

Most laughable in your list of neocon agitprop was the crap about 9/11™, which was perpetrated by Saudis, not Persians.
 
I am in favor of destroying the Iranians regime. They have gotten away with being the bad guys too long. It is not just nukes, although that is a very important part of it. I like the fact that basically our president has left the decision to the mullahs, change or be destroyed.
I Am unapologetically in favor of taking the leaders in Iran out. I am unapologetically in support of Israel. I will disclose I was born in the USA, and live here. But I did my service in the IDF and hold two passports. So it should not be a surprise that i hold the views I do. In fact, the only thing I will apologize for is not killing more of those Hezbollah bastards in 1978 when I served.
 
More mindless nonsense from people who want to see WW3. You guys best check our record before you call others bad guys.
 
Personally, I'm perplexed as to why Russia would side with and take in the fleeing Iranian Imam, as Iran has made it clear that they would not stop at just the Jews and then go after Christians, Hindus, et cetera.
 

Personally, I'm perplexed as to why Russia would side with and take in the fleeing Iranian Imam, as Iran has made it clear that they would not stop at just the Jews and then go after Christians, Hindus, et cetera.
Birds of a feather???
 
Sorry, historic quotes can't get you out of your hysterical appeal to emotion.

Most laughable in your list of neocon agitprop was the crap about 9/11™, which was perpetrated by Saudis, not Persians.
I did no such thing. I specified real world issues with Iran having nuclear weapons.

I'm surprised at you.


Fundamentalist Islamofascists agree on death, nationality notwithstanding.
 
More mindless nonsense from people who want to see WW3. You guys best check our record before you call others bad guys.
But.....but.....you always vote for the "bad guys"!!!
 
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I did no such thing. I specified real world issues with Iran having nuclear weapons.

I'm surprised at you.


Fundamentalist Islamofascists agree on death, nationality notwithstanding.
Again, the Likuds have been screeching about Iran being week/months from having a nuke for well over 20 years.

Reagan had the right answer, in staying as far from those 14th century nut cases as possible.

At what point do you stop running when the little boy cries WOLF! again?
 
At the risk of dating myself....

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Again, the Likuds have been screeching about Iran being week/months from having a nuke for well over 20 years.

Reagan had the right answer, in staying as far from those 14th century nut cases as possible.

At what point do you stop running when the little boy cries WOLF! again?
Simple question, from one who lived right next to North Korea:


Is a nuclear Iran a threat to the world?
 
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