In the Real World

What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
Give a real world example
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
I asked the same question
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
It's not a myth that Detroit has a lot of murder and crime. I know black people who moved because it was getting to crazy there. Their words not mine
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Then that's true with blondes and brunettes or brown eyes and blue eyed people
 
Both of those cities are only 8% black.....but they commit most of the violent crime......
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
Give a real world example
Everyone Knows We Are All Equal
 
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
O.K. Here’s a portion of “The New Jim Crow,” which I have read and reread: Today, most Americans know and don’t know the truth about mass incarceration. For more than three decades, images of black men in handcuffs have been a regular staple of the evening news. It is precisely because we know that black and brown people are far more likely to be imprisoned that we, as a nation, have not cared too much about it. We tell ourselves they “deserve” their fate, even though we know – and don’t know – that whites are just as likely to commit crimes, especially drug crimes.

Most Americans come to “know” about the people cycling in and out of prisons through fictional police dramas, music videos, gangsta rap and “true” accounts of ghetto experience on the evening news. These racialized narratives tend to confirm and reinforce the prevailing public consensus that we need not care about “these people”: they deserve what they get.

The War on Drugs is the vehicle through which extraordinary numbers of black men are forced into the cage. The first stage is the roundup. Vast numbers of people are swept into the criminal justice system by the police, who CONDUCT DRUG OPERATIONS PRIMARILY IN POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. They are rewarded in cash – through drug forfeiture laws and federal grant programs – for rounding up as many people as possible. The can stop, interrogate and search anyone they choose. Racial biases are granted free reign. Police are allowed to rely on race as a factor in selecting whom to stop and search – effectively guaranteeing that those who are swept up into the system are primarily black and brown.

Second stage is the period of formal control. Once arrested, defendants are generally denied meaningful representation and pressured to plead guilty whether they are or not. Prosecutors are free to “load up” defendants with extra charges, and their decisions cannot be challenged for racial bias.

The final stage is the period of invisible punishment. There is a unique set of criminal sanctions imposed on individuals after they step outside the prison gate. These sanctions are imposed by operation of law rather than decisions of a sentencing judge, yet they have a greater impact on one’s life course than the months or years one actually spends behind bars. They will be discriminated against, legally, for the rest of their lives – denied employment, housing, education and public benefits. Unable to surmount these obstacles, most will eventually return to prison, caught in a closed circuit of perpetual marginality. They become members of an undercaste – an enormous population of predominantly black and brown people who are denied basic rights and privileges of American citizenship and are permanently relegated to an inferior status.

Race has always influenced the administration of justice in the United States. Since the day the first prison opened, people of color have been disproportionately represented behind bars. The nature of the criminal justice system is this – it is no longer concerned primarily with the prevention and punishment of crime, but rather with the management and control of the dispossessed.”

I could give you plenty more from this 312 page book which took years to research and write, but I’ll keep it for another day.
 
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
O.K. Here’s a portion of “The New Jim Crow,” which I have read and reread: Today, most Americans know and don’t know the truth about mass incarceration. For more than three decades, images of black men in handcuffs have been a regular staple of the evening news. It is precisely because we know that black and brown people are far more likely to be imprisoned that we, as a nation, have not cared too much about it. We tell ourselves they “deserve” their fate, even though we know – and don’t know – that whites are just as likely to commit crimes, especially drug crimes.

Most Americans come to “know” about the people cycling in and out of prisons through fictional police dramas, music videos, gangsta rap and “true” accounts of ghetto experience on the evening news. These racialized narratives tend to confirm and reinforce the prevailing public consensus that we need not care about “these people”: they deserve what they get.

The War on Drugs is the vehicle through which extraordinary numbers of black men are forced into the cage. The first stage is the roundup. Vast numbers of people are swept into the criminal justice system by the police, who CONDUCT DRUG OPERATIONS PRIMARILY IN POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. They are rewarded in cash – through drug forfeiture laws and federal grant programs – for rounding up as many people as possible. The can stop, interrogate and search anyone they choose. Racial biases are granted free reign. Police are allowed to rely on race as a factor in selecting whom to stop and search – effectively guaranteeing that those who are swept up into the system are primarily black and brown.

Second stage is the period of formal control. Once arrested, defendants are generally denied meaningful representation and pressured to plead guilty whether they are or not. Prosecutors are free to “load up” defendants with extra charges, and their decisions cannot be challenged for racial bias.

The final stage is the period of invisible punishment. There is a unique set of criminal sanctions imposed on individuals after they step outside the prison gate. These sanctions are imposed by operation of law rather than decisions of a sentencing judge, yet they have a greater impact on one’s life course than the months or years one actually spends behind bars. They will be discriminated against, legally, for the rest of their lives – denied employment, housing, education and public benefits. Unable to surmount these obstacles, most will eventually return to prison, caught in a closed circuit of perpetual marginality. They become members of an undercaste – an enormous population of predominantly black and brown people who are denied basic rights and privileges of American citizenship and are permanently relegated to an inferior status.

Race has always influenced the administration of justice in the United States. Since the day the first prison opened, people of color have been disproportionately represented behind bars. The nature of the criminal justice system is this – it is no longer concerned primarily with the prevention and punishment of crime, but rather with the management and control of the dispossessed.”

I could give you plenty more from this 312 page book which took years to research and write, but I’ll keep it for another day.
The only statement here that claims (or suggests) discrimination based on race is the initial decision to conduct operations primarily in poor communities of color (everything else is punishment for the crime, which is by crime, not by race), but there is no evidence presented that they were selected because of race. If property forfeiture laws are the driver as the article suggests, then it would make far more sense to do this in rich white communities, especially if whites are just as likely to commit these crimes. They'd get more forfeiture per conviction that way. So why do they still do it in poor black areas if not because THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME IS?

And what evidence does the book provide that shows white commit as much crime? I see a CLAIM, nothing more. It's followed by an irrational argument that actually debunks the premise.
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
Give a real world example
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
Michael Eric Dyson, in his book "Tears We Cannot Stop," addresses crime. "Just this once set aside your litany of accusations and listen. Just this once take the side of the true victims of oppression. Just this once please don't side with the manufacturers and perpetrators of our death."

He goes on to tell the story of when he and his wife were nearly robbed in Detroit. He told the robber that he literally had a dollar and thirty-five cents on him. Then he told him that he didn't look like the type of brother that would do something like this. The guy said he regretted it, but he had a wife and kids and they had nothing to eat.

"Do you think crime doesn't bother us? Do you think we like being killed by folks who look like us? Our bullets are often aimed at each other because we're too near the site of pain and heartbreak, frustration and depression. We often lack food and shelter, and we live in homes overrun with bodies, leaving us little room or rest. So we lash out at them, or an acquaintance, or a partner in crime. Yes, it is true, sometimes we send them, or, perhaps a stranger nearby, to their eternal reward. This is the geography of despair. It is also the pain of never having control, or always being afraid, of struggling to care for and love what we cannot protect.

Black folks do protest, to each other, to a world that largely refuses to listen, the killing of blacks by other blacks.We cry out against what goes on in black communities. We know such communities are vexed by problems faced by all neighborhoods that are depleted of dollars and hope. They are emptied of good schools. They are deprived of the social and economic buffers that keep Beverly Hills from turning into Beirut.

White folk commit the bulk of the crimes in our nation. And, beloved, it may surprise you that white folk commit the most violent crimes too. According to FBI statistics, black folk committed 36 percent of violent crime in 2015, while white folk committed 42 percent of violent crimes the same year. White folk consistently lead all other groups in aggravated assault, larceny, illegal weapons possession, arson and vandalism. And white folk are far more likely to target the vulnerable too. White folk lead the way in forcible rape. You're also more likely to kill children, the elderly, significant others, family members and even yourselves. A majority of the homicide victims in this country are white. White folk are six times as likely to be murdered by a white person as they are to be taken out by a black "thug.' The white-on-white mayhem is profound, yet no one speaks of it in racial terms."
 
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
O.K. Here’s a portion of “The New Jim Crow,” which I have read and reread: Today, most Americans know and don’t know the truth about mass incarceration. For more than three decades, images of black men in handcuffs have been a regular staple of the evening news. It is precisely because we know that black and brown people are far more likely to be imprisoned that we, as a nation, have not cared too much about it. We tell ourselves they “deserve” their fate, even though we know – and don’t know – that whites are just as likely to commit crimes, especially drug crimes.

Most Americans come to “know” about the people cycling in and out of prisons through fictional police dramas, music videos, gangsta rap and “true” accounts of ghetto experience on the evening news. These racialized narratives tend to confirm and reinforce the prevailing public consensus that we need not care about “these people”: they deserve what they get.

The War on Drugs is the vehicle through which extraordinary numbers of black men are forced into the cage. The first stage is the roundup. Vast numbers of people are swept into the criminal justice system by the police, who CONDUCT DRUG OPERATIONS PRIMARILY IN POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. They are rewarded in cash – through drug forfeiture laws and federal grant programs – for rounding up as many people as possible. The can stop, interrogate and search anyone they choose. Racial biases are granted free reign. Police are allowed to rely on race as a factor in selecting whom to stop and search – effectively guaranteeing that those who are swept up into the system are primarily black and brown.

Second stage is the period of formal control. Once arrested, defendants are generally denied meaningful representation and pressured to plead guilty whether they are or not. Prosecutors are free to “load up” defendants with extra charges, and their decisions cannot be challenged for racial bias.

The final stage is the period of invisible punishment. There is a unique set of criminal sanctions imposed on individuals after they step outside the prison gate. These sanctions are imposed by operation of law rather than decisions of a sentencing judge, yet they have a greater impact on one’s life course than the months or years one actually spends behind bars. They will be discriminated against, legally, for the rest of their lives – denied employment, housing, education and public benefits. Unable to surmount these obstacles, most will eventually return to prison, caught in a closed circuit of perpetual marginality. They become members of an undercaste – an enormous population of predominantly black and brown people who are denied basic rights and privileges of American citizenship and are permanently relegated to an inferior status.

Race has always influenced the administration of justice in the United States. Since the day the first prison opened, people of color have been disproportionately represented behind bars. The nature of the criminal justice system is this – it is no longer concerned primarily with the prevention and punishment of crime, but rather with the management and control of the dispossessed.”

I could give you plenty more from this 312 page book which took years to research and write, but I’ll keep it for another day.
The only statement here that claims (or suggests) discrimination based on race is the initial decision to conduct operations primarily in poor communities of color (everything else is punishment for the crime, which is by crime, not by race), but there is no evidence presented that they were selected because of race. If property forfeiture laws are the driver as the article suggests, then it would make far more sense to do this in rich white communities, especially if whites are just as likely to commit these crimes. They'd get more forfeiture per conviction that way. So why do they still do it in poor black areas if not because THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME IS?

And what evidence does the book provide that shows white commit as much crime? I see a CLAIM, nothing more. It's followed by an irrational argument that actually debunks the premise.
Here's a chapter titled "The Occupation - Policing the Enemy."

"Unbeknownst to the general public, the Supreme Court has actually authorize race discrimination in policing, rather than adopting legal rules banning it. Police have discretion regarding whom to target, as well as where to target. A least 10 percent of Americans violate drug laws every year, and people of all races engage in illegal drug activity at similar rates. Decision must be made regarding who should be targeted and where the drug war should be waged.

From the outset, the drug war could have been waged primarily in overwhelmingly white suburbs or on college campuses. SWAT teams could have rappelled from helicopters in gated suburban communities and raided the homes of high school lacrosse players known for hosting coke and ecstasy parties. The police could have seized television, furniture, and cases from fraternity houses based on anonymous tips that a few joints or a stash of cocaine could be found. Suburban homemakers could have been placed under surveillance and subjected to undercover operations designed to catch them violating laws regulating the use and sale of prescription "uppers." All of this COULD have happened as a matter of routine in white communities, but it did not.

Instead, when the police go looking for drugs, they go to the hood. Tactics that would be political suicide in an upscale white suburb are not even newsworthy in poor black communities. So long as mass drug arrests are concentrated in impoverished urban areas, police chiefs have little reason to fear a political backlash, no matter how aggressive and warlike the efforts may be. One prosecutor said, "It's a lot easier to go out to the hood, so to speak, and pick somebody than to put your resources in an undercover operation in a community where there are potentially politically powerful people."
 
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
Give a real world example
What's funny is I don't give a crap whom white people marry and would be no more phased by the white woman's decision to marry a black guy than by her decision to move out of the country or commit suicide. Most racists I know are "racist" simply in their understanding of statistics: they see the information and interpret it rationally. Liberals see the truth but don't believe it because it goes against their agenda.
What "truth" do think liberals do not believe?
That negroes are different.

And not just in skin color.
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
Michael Eric Dyson, in his book "Tears We Cannot Stop," addresses crime. "Just this once set aside your litany of accusations and listen. Just this once take the side of the true victims of oppression. Just this once please don't side with the manufacturers and perpetrators of our death."

He goes on to tell the story of when he and his wife were nearly robbed in Detroit. He told the robber that he literally had a dollar and thirty-five cents on him. Then he told him that he didn't look like the type of brother that would do something like this. The guy said he regretted it, but he had a wife and kids and they had nothing to eat.
It's cruel and stupid to give birth to kids you can't support, thereby condemning them to a life of torture. It's even dumber to commit robbery for less than $2: you literally lose more money by going to prison for it. I have 0 sympathy for that piece of shit robber.
"Do you think crime doesn't bother us? Do you think we like being killed by folks who look like us? Our bullets are often aimed at each other because we're too near the site of pain and heartbreak, frustration and depression. We often lack food and shelter, and we live in homes overrun with bodies, leaving us little room or rest. So we lash out at them, or an acquaintance, or a partner in crime. Yes, it is true, sometimes we send them, or, perhaps a stranger nearby, to their eternal reward. This is the geography of despair. It is also the pain of never having control, or always being afraid, of struggling to care for and love what we cannot protect.
Whose fucking fault is it that these worthless retards can't use condoms or get an abortion? Or abstain from sex? That's why the place is crowded. They bring up a potential cause for their problems, but that cause is THEIR FAULT!

Negroes: no personal responsibility.
Black folks do protest, to each other, to a world that largely refuses to listen, the killing of blacks by other blacks.We cry out against what goes on in black communities. We know such communities are vexed by problems faced by all neighborhoods that are depleted of dollars and hope. They are emptied of good schools. They are deprived of the social and economic buffers that keep Beverly Hills from turning into Beirut.
I might feel bad if they at least didn't overpopulate their own shithole negrohood, but as it stands, they are just holding out their hands and looking for a handout, while refusing to even abstain from bad behavior to better themselves.
White folk commit the bulk of the crimes in our nation. And, beloved, it may surprise you that white folk commit the most violent crimes too.

According to FBI statistics, black folk committed 36 percent of violent crime in 2015, while white folk committed 42 percent of violent crimes the same year.
Given that whites are about 70% of the population and blacks are about 13% of the population as of recent statistics, blacks commit far more crime per capita than whites. The result is that negro neighborhoods are flooded with violent criminals, while white ones are not. If the moron who wrote this doesn't understand per capita statistics and their importance, then he shouldn't be writing anything.
White folk consistently lead all other groups in aggravated assault, larceny, illegal weapons possession, arson and vandalism. And white folk are far more likely to target the vulnerable too. White folk lead the way in forcible rape. You're also more likely to kill children, the elderly, significant others, family members and even yourselves. A majority of the homicide victims in this country are white. White folk are six times as likely to be murdered by a white person as they are to be taken out by a black "thug.' The white-on-white mayhem is profound, yet no one speaks of it in racial terms."
Much of violent crime is among people who know each other so it's not surprising that whites are more likely to be killed by whites. As usual, per capita statistics are lost on this moron.
 
Different in what ways specifically? There are differences between blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, etc.,etc. Different does not mean "less than" and it does not mean "superior". It just means different. The world is a rainbow of people, all of equal worth.
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
O.K. Here’s a portion of “The New Jim Crow,” which I have read and reread: Today, most Americans know and don’t know the truth about mass incarceration. For more than three decades, images of black men in handcuffs have been a regular staple of the evening news. It is precisely because we know that black and brown people are far more likely to be imprisoned that we, as a nation, have not cared too much about it. We tell ourselves they “deserve” their fate, even though we know – and don’t know – that whites are just as likely to commit crimes, especially drug crimes.

Most Americans come to “know” about the people cycling in and out of prisons through fictional police dramas, music videos, gangsta rap and “true” accounts of ghetto experience on the evening news. These racialized narratives tend to confirm and reinforce the prevailing public consensus that we need not care about “these people”: they deserve what they get.

The War on Drugs is the vehicle through which extraordinary numbers of black men are forced into the cage. The first stage is the roundup. Vast numbers of people are swept into the criminal justice system by the police, who CONDUCT DRUG OPERATIONS PRIMARILY IN POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. They are rewarded in cash – through drug forfeiture laws and federal grant programs – for rounding up as many people as possible. The can stop, interrogate and search anyone they choose. Racial biases are granted free reign. Police are allowed to rely on race as a factor in selecting whom to stop and search – effectively guaranteeing that those who are swept up into the system are primarily black and brown.

Second stage is the period of formal control. Once arrested, defendants are generally denied meaningful representation and pressured to plead guilty whether they are or not. Prosecutors are free to “load up” defendants with extra charges, and their decisions cannot be challenged for racial bias.

The final stage is the period of invisible punishment. There is a unique set of criminal sanctions imposed on individuals after they step outside the prison gate. These sanctions are imposed by operation of law rather than decisions of a sentencing judge, yet they have a greater impact on one’s life course than the months or years one actually spends behind bars. They will be discriminated against, legally, for the rest of their lives – denied employment, housing, education and public benefits. Unable to surmount these obstacles, most will eventually return to prison, caught in a closed circuit of perpetual marginality. They become members of an undercaste – an enormous population of predominantly black and brown people who are denied basic rights and privileges of American citizenship and are permanently relegated to an inferior status.

Race has always influenced the administration of justice in the United States. Since the day the first prison opened, people of color have been disproportionately represented behind bars. The nature of the criminal justice system is this – it is no longer concerned primarily with the prevention and punishment of crime, but rather with the management and control of the dispossessed.”

I could give you plenty more from this 312 page book which took years to research and write, but I’ll keep it for another day.
The only statement here that claims (or suggests) discrimination based on race is the initial decision to conduct operations primarily in poor communities of color (everything else is punishment for the crime, which is by crime, not by race), but there is no evidence presented that they were selected because of race. If property forfeiture laws are the driver as the article suggests, then it would make far more sense to do this in rich white communities, especially if whites are just as likely to commit these crimes. They'd get more forfeiture per conviction that way. So why do they still do it in poor black areas if not because THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME IS?

And what evidence does the book provide that shows white commit as much crime? I see a CLAIM, nothing more. It's followed by an irrational argument that actually debunks the premise.
Pages 264-312 are notes and indexes. You'd have to get the book and check them for all of her references.
 
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
O.K. Here’s a portion of “The New Jim Crow,” which I have read and reread: Today, most Americans know and don’t know the truth about mass incarceration. For more than three decades, images of black men in handcuffs have been a regular staple of the evening news. It is precisely because we know that black and brown people are far more likely to be imprisoned that we, as a nation, have not cared too much about it. We tell ourselves they “deserve” their fate, even though we know – and don’t know – that whites are just as likely to commit crimes, especially drug crimes.

Most Americans come to “know” about the people cycling in and out of prisons through fictional police dramas, music videos, gangsta rap and “true” accounts of ghetto experience on the evening news. These racialized narratives tend to confirm and reinforce the prevailing public consensus that we need not care about “these people”: they deserve what they get.

The War on Drugs is the vehicle through which extraordinary numbers of black men are forced into the cage. The first stage is the roundup. Vast numbers of people are swept into the criminal justice system by the police, who CONDUCT DRUG OPERATIONS PRIMARILY IN POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. They are rewarded in cash – through drug forfeiture laws and federal grant programs – for rounding up as many people as possible. The can stop, interrogate and search anyone they choose. Racial biases are granted free reign. Police are allowed to rely on race as a factor in selecting whom to stop and search – effectively guaranteeing that those who are swept up into the system are primarily black and brown.

Second stage is the period of formal control. Once arrested, defendants are generally denied meaningful representation and pressured to plead guilty whether they are or not. Prosecutors are free to “load up” defendants with extra charges, and their decisions cannot be challenged for racial bias.

The final stage is the period of invisible punishment. There is a unique set of criminal sanctions imposed on individuals after they step outside the prison gate. These sanctions are imposed by operation of law rather than decisions of a sentencing judge, yet they have a greater impact on one’s life course than the months or years one actually spends behind bars. They will be discriminated against, legally, for the rest of their lives – denied employment, housing, education and public benefits. Unable to surmount these obstacles, most will eventually return to prison, caught in a closed circuit of perpetual marginality. They become members of an undercaste – an enormous population of predominantly black and brown people who are denied basic rights and privileges of American citizenship and are permanently relegated to an inferior status.

Race has always influenced the administration of justice in the United States. Since the day the first prison opened, people of color have been disproportionately represented behind bars. The nature of the criminal justice system is this – it is no longer concerned primarily with the prevention and punishment of crime, but rather with the management and control of the dispossessed.”

I could give you plenty more from this 312 page book which took years to research and write, but I’ll keep it for another day.
The only statement here that claims (or suggests) discrimination based on race is the initial decision to conduct operations primarily in poor communities of color (everything else is punishment for the crime, which is by crime, not by race), but there is no evidence presented that they were selected because of race. If property forfeiture laws are the driver as the article suggests, then it would make far more sense to do this in rich white communities, especially if whites are just as likely to commit these crimes. They'd get more forfeiture per conviction that way. So why do they still do it in poor black areas if not because THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME IS?

And what evidence does the book provide that shows white commit as much crime? I see a CLAIM, nothing more. It's followed by an irrational argument that actually debunks the premise.
Here's a chapter titled "The Occupation - Policing the Enemy."

"Unbeknownst to the general public, the Supreme Court has actually authorize race discrimination in policing, rather than adopting legal rules banning it. Police have discretion regarding whom to target, as well as where to target. A least 10 percent of Americans violate drug laws every year, and people of all races engage in illegal drug activity at similar rates. Decision must be made regarding who should be targeted and where the drug war should be waged.

From the outset, the drug war could have been waged primarily in overwhelmingly white suburbs or on college campuses. SWAT teams could have rappelled from helicopters in gated suburban communities and raided the homes of high school lacrosse players known for hosting coke and ecstasy parties. The police could have seized television, furniture, and cases from fraternity houses based on anonymous tips that a few joints or a stash of cocaine could be found. Suburban homemakers could have been placed under surveillance and subjected to undercover operations designed to catch them violating laws regulating the use and sale of prescription "uppers." All of this COULD have happened as a matter of routine in white communities, but it did not.

Instead, when the police go looking for drugs, they go to the hood. Tactics that would be political suicide in an upscale white suburb are not even newsworthy in poor black communities. So long as mass drug arrests are concentrated in impoverished urban areas, police chiefs have little reason to fear a political backlash, no matter how aggressive and warlike the efforts may be. One prosecutor said, "It's a lot easier to go out to the hood, so to speak, and pick somebody than to put your resources in an undercover operation in a community where there are potentially politically powerful people."
Or they're picking the more likely target vs. the less likely target. If they're after forfeiture funds as you suggested before, it wouldn't make sense for them to go to the poor hood to get it since you get more bang for your bug in the white hoods if whites have more money.
 
They're different in that they commit more violent crime and wind up in prison more often. Whether that's "better" or "worse" is an opinion I suppose.
If you should choose to read "The New Jim Crow," by Michelle Alexander, you may discover that "blacks commit more violent crimes" is not a factual or accurate statement, although a commonly used one. As far as winding up in prison more often, that is also explained by forces that have laid and sprung the trap purposely as the modern way of keeping black men down, since laws prohibit actual Jim Crow treatment as in the past.
I don't have to do your research for you. If you have evidence, post it.
O.K. Here’s a portion of “The New Jim Crow,” which I have read and reread: Today, most Americans know and don’t know the truth about mass incarceration. For more than three decades, images of black men in handcuffs have been a regular staple of the evening news. It is precisely because we know that black and brown people are far more likely to be imprisoned that we, as a nation, have not cared too much about it. We tell ourselves they “deserve” their fate, even though we know – and don’t know – that whites are just as likely to commit crimes, especially drug crimes.

Most Americans come to “know” about the people cycling in and out of prisons through fictional police dramas, music videos, gangsta rap and “true” accounts of ghetto experience on the evening news. These racialized narratives tend to confirm and reinforce the prevailing public consensus that we need not care about “these people”: they deserve what they get.

The War on Drugs is the vehicle through which extraordinary numbers of black men are forced into the cage. The first stage is the roundup. Vast numbers of people are swept into the criminal justice system by the police, who CONDUCT DRUG OPERATIONS PRIMARILY IN POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. They are rewarded in cash – through drug forfeiture laws and federal grant programs – for rounding up as many people as possible. The can stop, interrogate and search anyone they choose. Racial biases are granted free reign. Police are allowed to rely on race as a factor in selecting whom to stop and search – effectively guaranteeing that those who are swept up into the system are primarily black and brown.

Second stage is the period of formal control. Once arrested, defendants are generally denied meaningful representation and pressured to plead guilty whether they are or not. Prosecutors are free to “load up” defendants with extra charges, and their decisions cannot be challenged for racial bias.

The final stage is the period of invisible punishment. There is a unique set of criminal sanctions imposed on individuals after they step outside the prison gate. These sanctions are imposed by operation of law rather than decisions of a sentencing judge, yet they have a greater impact on one’s life course than the months or years one actually spends behind bars. They will be discriminated against, legally, for the rest of their lives – denied employment, housing, education and public benefits. Unable to surmount these obstacles, most will eventually return to prison, caught in a closed circuit of perpetual marginality. They become members of an undercaste – an enormous population of predominantly black and brown people who are denied basic rights and privileges of American citizenship and are permanently relegated to an inferior status.

Race has always influenced the administration of justice in the United States. Since the day the first prison opened, people of color have been disproportionately represented behind bars. The nature of the criminal justice system is this – it is no longer concerned primarily with the prevention and punishment of crime, but rather with the management and control of the dispossessed.”

I could give you plenty more from this 312 page book which took years to research and write, but I’ll keep it for another day.
The only statement here that claims (or suggests) discrimination based on race is the initial decision to conduct operations primarily in poor communities of color (everything else is punishment for the crime, which is by crime, not by race), but there is no evidence presented that they were selected because of race. If property forfeiture laws are the driver as the article suggests, then it would make far more sense to do this in rich white communities, especially if whites are just as likely to commit these crimes. They'd get more forfeiture per conviction that way. So why do they still do it in poor black areas if not because THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME IS?

And what evidence does the book provide that shows white commit as much crime? I see a CLAIM, nothing more. It's followed by an irrational argument that actually debunks the premise.
Pages 264-312 are notes and indexes. You'd have to get the book and check them for all of her references.
So what's stopping you from finding the page and putting it here? You're the one using it as your source.
 

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