In 1681 France invaded Germany and stole the town of Strasbourg

[Zebra]

Without declaring war …. It was an unprovoked atttack in peace time …. by Louis 14

German name is Straßburg

It was totally German … like the land of Alsace …. Or Elsass in German

 

[Zebra]

France has attacked Germany for many centuries, when Germany was weak.

This is little known.

Better known are the two world wars.

 

[José]

If I'm not mistaken people still speak both languages in Alsace??

 

[Zebra]

If I'm not mistaken people still speak both languages in Alsace??

True ….. but the French government does its best to suppress the German Alsatian language

 

[José]

Zebra
France has attacked Germany for many centuries, when Germany was weak.

That's because nationalism was a late arrival in Germany and Italy, Zebra.

 

[Anomalism]

Without declaring war …. It was an unprovoked atttack in peace time …. by Louis 14

German name is Straßburg

It was totally German … like the land of Alsace …. Or Elsass in German

Okay.

You seem to be trying to build up to a point, or am I mistaken?

 

[Zebra]

That's because nationalism was a late arrival in Germany and Italy, Zebra.

Exactly, so it is.
Germany did not really exist as one united country ….. it was a field of many small principalities …

 

[Zebra]

Okay.

You seem to be trying to build up to a point, or am I mistaken?

True …. You may also test mypoint in history books.

 

[Anomalism]

True …. You may also test mypoint in history books.

What is your point exactly? Where do you want this conversation to go?

 

[Zebra]

What is your point exactly? Where do you want this conversation to go?

My point is the history of Alsace

 

[Anomalism]

What is your point exactly? Where do you want this conversation to go?

Okay.

Is this somehow relevant to modern times? You seem to be dancing around something. I am giving you space to open up.

 

[Zebra]

All history is relevant.

 

[0311]

Without declaring war …. It was an unprovoked atttack in peace time …. by Louis 14

German name is Straßburg

It was totally German … like the land of Alsace …. Or Elsass in German

Link. You need to post a link and you have failed to do so.

 

[Zebra]

Okay.

Is this somehow relevant to modern times? You seem to be dancing around something. I am giving you space to open up.

my point is that France attacked Germany a lot more often than vice versa .... and over many centuries

But Germany now still is seen as a brutal war machine, while France is everybody.s darling ...

 

[Zebra]

Okay.

Is this somehow relevant to modern times? You seem to be dancing around something. I am giving you space to open up.

it will be relevant for a long time still.

Alsace is originally German since about the year 500

 

[whitehall]

Tribal warfare was relatively common in Europe for hundreds of years. Piracy was legal depending on which country was robbed. There probably isn't a country in the world that didn't gain or lose real estate in violent conflicts sometime in their history.

 

[toobfreak]

France has attacked Germany for many centuries, when Germany was weak.

You might be interested to know that at one time, most all of western Europe from Spain on through to Poland was all land owned by France.

 

[hjmick]

She was asking for it...

 

[Zebra]

You might be interested to know that at one time, most all of western Europe from Spain on through to Poland was all land owned by France.

I know about Napoleon .....

 

[Zebra]

She was asking for it...

who?