Zone1 If the perp who did this is brought to trial, what should the verdict be?

[luiza]

Research shows that regardless of race, poor people commit the most violent crime.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, from 2008 through 2012:

“Persons in poor households at or below the federal poverty level had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households. This pattern of poor people having the highest rates of violence was consistent for both whites and blacks.”

For the period 2008-12:
Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).

Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8-2.5 per 1,000).

The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.

Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).

Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).

Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

Erika Harrell, Lynn Langton, Marcus Berzofsky, Lance Couzens, Hope Smiley-McDonald, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Poverty and Nonfatal Violent Victimization, 2008-2012, NCJ Number248384, November 2014, https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/household -poverty-and-nonfatal-violent-victimization-2008-2012

Frederick Douglass called it long ago:

“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

Maybe it is time whites like Hector and others in here recognized the solid truth in this comment.

How do we know that was not you in the video ?
Show us your photo .
And your brothers .

It's not looking good for you .

 

[Curried Goats]

the f-ing black community is NOT above the law.

No shit. You'd have to be a complete Snowflake to understand history and imagine otherwise.

 

[Mack The Finger]

How can I unsee that ?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

4. He should wake up everyday in prison for the rest of his life knowing that his life is over on a different level

Quick death is way too lenient

The cowards answer

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Research shows that regardless of race, poor people commit the most violent crime.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, from 2008 through 2012:

“Persons in poor households at or below the federal poverty level had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households. This pattern of poor people having the highest rates of violence was consistent for both whites and blacks.”

For the period 2008-12:
Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).

Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8-2.5 per 1,000).

The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.

Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).

Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).

Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

Erika Harrell, Lynn Langton, Marcus Berzofsky, Lance Couzens, Hope Smiley-McDonald, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Poverty and Nonfatal Violent Victimization, 2008-2012, NCJ Number248384, November 2014, https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/household -poverty-and-nonfatal-violent-victimization-2008-2012

Frederick Douglass called it long ago:

“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

Maybe it is time whites like Hector and others in here recognized the solid truth in this comment.

The poor are poor because of the bad choices they make. Commiting crimes is one of those bad CHOICES.

 

[Mrkelly]

The cowards answer

Don’t be so hard on yourself

 

[Hector12]

Research shows that regardless of race, poor people commit the most violent crime.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, from 2008 through 2012:

“Persons in poor households at or below the federal poverty level had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households. This pattern of poor people having the highest rates of violence was consistent for both whites and blacks.”

For the period 2008-12:
Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).

Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8-2.5 per 1,000).

The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.

Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).

Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).

Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

Erika Harrell, Lynn Langton, Marcus Berzofsky, Lance Couzens, Hope Smiley-McDonald, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Poverty and Nonfatal Violent Victimization, 2008-2012, NCJ Number248384, November 2014, https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/household -poverty-and-nonfatal-violent-victimization-2008-2012

Frederick Douglass called it long ago:

“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

Maybe it is time whites like Hector and others in here recognized the solid truth in this comment.

Poverty is not enforced on Negroes; it is the result of their deficiencies of intelligence and character. It is not my fault that the congenitally unemployable who cannot be educated are that way. If they beg for money and are polite and submissive, I usually give them some. If they try to rob me I have the right to defend myself. If I kill them by defending myself, their deaths are no loss to society.

It is usually the case that when I give a white beggar a dollar he thanks me. If I give a black beggar a dollar he tells me that he wants more. Sometimes there is the threat of violence in his demand. I tell him, “No a dollar is all you get.”

 

[Hector12]

You made a statement ... I proved you are wrong. Poverty is a good excuse for crime no matter if you are black, white, Chinese, aztec, or Hispanic. Do you want to change the subject now or admit that you are wrong?

The poor have no right to steal anything from me. If they try, I have the right to defend myself.

 

[Curried Goats]

How is that? Do educated people genuinely believe that the different races are intrinsically equal in intelligence?

Educated people typically only believe things that are proven to be true.

 

[Hector12]

That's not a fact, nor is it inherent to black people. In fact crimes are a creation of society. If you legalize slavery then violently subduing and enslaving millions of people, generation after generation isn't a crime. See how that works?

Whites did not enalsve Negroes. They were enslaved by other Negroes in Africa and sold to white slave traders. When the slave trade existed whites could not enter the interior of Africa because of African diseases.

Allowing the slave trade was the worst mistake European settlers and their descendents in the Americas made.

Imagine what the United States would be like with no Negroes. The crime rate would be much lower. The cost of our criminal justice and welfare systems would be much lower. The downtown areas of our cities would not be asphault jungles of crime and moral depravity.

They would be centers of civilization, known for museums, art gallaries, libraries, book stores, atmospheric restaurants and taverns, theaters, and concert halls.

It would be possible to watch a movie or a play, or to attend a concert or a ballet that ended at 10:00 pm, walk two miles to get home, and be safe from crime.

 

[Hector12]

Educated people typically only believe things that are proven to be true.

Where is there proof of intrinsic racial equality?

 

[Mr Natural]

How about a slow, painful, humiliating death?

As satisfying as that might be, civilized human beings don’t do things like that.

 

[Hector12]

As satisfying as that might be, civilized human beings don’t do things like that.

Civilized people are alive because for several thousands of years those who would have murdered their ancestors were executed, often in ways that were slow, painful, humiliating, and pleasing to those who watched.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Don’t be so hard on yourself

Prisons aren't that bad in the US. The only just punishment for first degree murder is death

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Little basis in reality of starvation?

What are you talking about? Are you semi-literate? In the Holocaust death camps people stole food all of the time. I swear, some of you people cannot follow any subject.

I proved you wrong and you don't like it. We are not in death camps. No one is starving. Crimes are not committed to get food.. Crimes in the here and now are entitlements.

 

[GLASNOST]

The more you look , he more it stinks of being a Fake .

How many perps will have a long casual chat with their victim.?
How many perps would not be acutely concerned about other shoppers ? Where are they ?
Every perp would have only one thing on his mind --- getting out in world record time .
But not this Dumbo .

It's all theatrre and bad theatre .
Come on Gullibles , Wake Up .

Yes, the dialogue is rather cheesy. And then ........ he slides over on his knees to get a "what is it?" and the bad guy doesn't freak out that maybe the shopkeeper is going for a gun ... or a bat ..... or an alarm button. No-no-no! If the "perp" is so nervous and fidgety and he shoots the guy out of stress then I think he would have shot him when he reached into the shelf.

 

[GLASNOST]

I proved you wrong and you don't like it. We are not in death camps. No one is starving. Crimes are not committed to get food.. Crimes in the here and now are entitlements.

The poor have no right to steal anything from me. If they try, I have the right to defend myself.

OK Rambo.

 

[Seymour Flops]

4. He should wake up everyday in prison for the rest of his life knowing that his life is over on a different level

Quick death is way too lenient

This one is silly. People who oppose the death penalty in this way, like to pretend they want the perp to suffer an even harsher punishment than death, and claim that life in the slammer is that. But they know that life isn't really and will be the same people wanting older prisoners to be released, especially child rapists.

There are several good reasons to oppose the death penalty, but "it's too easy" isn't one of them.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This one is silly. People who oppose the death penalty in this way, like to pretend they want the perp to suffer an even harsher punishment than death, and claim that life in the slammer is that. But they know that life isn't really and will be the same people wanting older prisoners to be released, especially child rapists.

There are several good reasons to oppose the death penalty, but "it's too easy" isn't one of them.

Richard Speck serving life for murdering 7 nurses bragged about living the good life in prison.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/PS97/rpt/olr/htm/97-R-0242.htm

 

[leftwinger]

Is that a fact inherent in Black people as a race or reflections of socio economic circumstances?

Could be Violence (often unprovoked) is ingrained into Black Children from an early age on. Taught by the masters like IM2 superbad currybreath winterborn to strike in packs or alone anytime anywhere over the slightest verbal insult to result in death. Bash heads into cement like the 200lb girl in Hazelwood bashing skinny white chicks head. No outrage from Blacks over any events ever.

Could be the hopelessness............."I got nothing, no hope and nobody else will have anything".