I think it is time to deport all the billionaires in this country to Mexico.

[Meathead]

I think it is time to deport all the billionaires in this country to Mexico. We'd be better off with out these parasites and we'd be able to finally help our lower and middle class. We need to invest more into education, better paying jobs and policies that help people.

Fuck the rich.

You're the fag guy, right?

That explains it.

 

[skye]

I think it is time to deport all the billionaires in this country to Mexico. We'd be better off with out these parasites and we'd be able to finally help our lower and middle class. We need to invest more into education, better paying jobs and policies that help people.

Fuck the rich.

 

[luiza]

I think it is time to deport all the billionaires in this country to Mexico. We'd be better off with out these parasites and we'd be able to finally help our lower and middle class. We need to invest more into education, better paying jobs and policies that help people.

Fuck the rich.

Wrong way around . Without those people you would be back in the stone age within a year .
Far better to define the bottom layer by whatever metric you all agree and then lose them .
Except that is just the Deep State strategy, albeit modified.

 

[Robert W]

You still don't get it. The proximate cause for job creation is indeed the rich, however, the distal, and therefore real, creator of jobs, is the demands of the middle class.

If the middle class suddenly disappeared tomorrow, then it doesn't matter how many billionaires we still have around. Society as we know would stop existing. But, if the billionaires disappeared tomorrow, it would be no big loss. Society would still exist.

I have owned 5 small businesses. Who made the demand for me? Small business are generally not profitable. Small business owners still must pay wages even when the business suffers a lot. The Middle class works for firms. They really don't want to be in business, fearing it will bankrupt them. We know small business is valuable. But it is very hard to make it.

Approximately 50% of small businesses fail within their first five years.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• First year: Around 20% of small businesses fail.
• Two years: Approximately 30% of businesses fail.
• Five years: About 50% of businesses fail.
• Ten years: 70% of businesses fail
• Fifteen years: Only 25% of new businesses make it to 15 years or more.
• Twenty years: Only about 20% survive for 20 years

 

[MayorQuimby]

Wrong way around . Without those people you would be back in the stone age within a year .
Far better to define the bottom layer by whatever metric you all agree and then lose them .
Except that is just the Deep State strategy, albeit modified.

Not sure what the hell you are even trying to say, but no, billionaires didn't take us out of the stone age. Thinkers, inventers, scientists and scholars did.

 

[DukeU]

Funny you should say they built stuff. They didn't, their employees, the middle class, built it. These billionaires just provided capital/money.

Without the capital, who's going to build?

 

[MayorQuimby]

I have owned 5 small businesses. Who made the demand for me? Small business are generally not profitable. Small business owners still must pay wages even when the business suffers a lot. The Middle class works for firms. They really don't want to be in business, fearing it will bankrupt them. We know small business is valuable. But it is very hard to make it.

Approximately 50% of small businesses fail within their first five years.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• First year: Around 20% of small businesses fail.
• Two years: Approximately 30% of businesses fail.
• Five years: About 50% of businesses fail.
• Ten years: 70% of businesses fail
• Fifteen years: Only 25% of new businesses make it to 15 years or more.
• Twenty years: Only about 20% survive for 20 years

Not sure what sort of a point you have here. But anyway, the middle class creates demands for goods and services. This is not debatable.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Without the capital, who's going to build?

I never said billionaires were completely without use. Just that they didn't build anything, which you claimed they did, which is wrong.

 

[DukeU]

I never said billionaires were completely without use. Just that they didn't build anything, which you claimed they did, which is wrong.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[MayorQuimby]

You didn't answer the question.

You don't get to interrogate me, dipshit.

 

[luiza]

Not sure what the hell you are even trying to say, but no, billionaires didn't take us out of the stone age. Thinkers, inventers, scientists and scholars did.

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Try thinking before scribbling irrelevant thoughts .

Clue .
The important Elite now , regardless of what you might think of them or their backgrounds, are the "Silicon ValleyTech and Crypto" type of Geniuses.
Without them America grinds to a halt and any other countries they choose .
Example .
They could hack the remaining US infrastructire to a standstill overnight .
Take down all food distribution channels etc etc
End Of

 

[MayorQuimby]

.
Try thinking before scribbling irrelevant thoughts .

Clue .
The important Elite now , regardless of what you might think of them or their backgrounds, are the "Silicon ValleyTech and Crypto" type of Geniuses.
Without them America grinds to a halt and any other countries they choose .
Example .
They could hack the remaining US infrastructire to a standstill overnight .
Take down all food distribution channels etc etc
End Of

Look, I never said these Silicon valley giants weren't powerful. Of course they are, and they probably could bring down the country if they wanted to. However, that does not mean that they, or people like them, brought us out of the stone age. I don't know how to explain this to you without repeating myself. The true people who brought humanity out of the stone age were thinkers and the like. The Silicon valley types aren't true thinkers, they are just clever people who know how to harness the power of the latest technology.

 

[Robert W]

No. I do not "hate" the rich. I just want to correct this very common misconception that the rich give us life. No. It's the other way around.

Any person who provides what the public wants a lot of, will get rich. Even some who are mechanics on cars get rich. I had a pal who proved it. Ed worked for a firm panting home doors by the hour. And was just making a decent living. He decided to try harder. So he got hold of a gas station and was good at that. But he still was not where he wanted to be. So starting in the station garage, he learned how to rebuild automatic transmissions. And later moved that to a rented building and got rid of the gas station. We were acquaintances from the time he moved to CA but later became close friends. Over the years, I quit working in construction and after several small businesses became a Real Estate Broker with agents working at my office. Ed and I worked as I was his agent and he my customer. I sold Ed property, some homes and some commercial. Ed kept using my service. Over time he rebuilt for me at no charge the transmission for my then Mark 4 Lincoln. I found more property for him and repaid him by discounts. Finally Ed sold out what he owned in Ca to move to Oregon. He left CA with millions of dollars in cash. And in Oregon he bought rental properties used for storage and also small businesses there. He wanted me to also move to Oregon to stay as his Broker agent. I had family in Ca and did not move to Oregon. In Oregon he also bought a RV park on the Pacific Coast. He had his sister manage that. He also bought a 500 unit storage facility and raked in big bucks. He rose from painting doors to being worth many many millions. He wanted a new Hummer so bought one. He wanted his family to live in a mansion and bought one. I sold his very huge home when he left CA for close to a million dollars. He had no debt on that one. His son loved the Auto business and opened his well equipped building engines shop and does well. He learned it from his dad. His other son still lives in CA and he also has a transmission shop and really makes a lot of money. This does not end with the father, getting rich spreads to the family. Ed was a remarkable person who I proudly call friend. Even you can get rich if you make good plans.

 

[luiza]

Look, I never said these Silicon valley giants weren't powerful. Of course they are, and they probably could bring down the country if they wanted to. However, that does not mean that they, or people like them, brought us out of the stone age. I don't know how to explain this to you without repeating myself. The true people who brought humanity out of the stone age were thinkers and the like. The Silicon valley types aren't true thinkers, they are just clever people who know how to harness the power of the newest technology.

There is nothing in this world you can explain to me .
I am light years away from you .
CLUE
Progress and humanity may be desirable but they are not inextricably linked .

If you want your sentimental humanitarian world , go be a Trappist Monk and eat flowers.
But never forget that those that led the Apes out of the Stone Age were the fastest , strongest and bravest .
That was the infrastructure that later eventually led to your soppy sugary Lefty choices being an option .

 

[MayorQuimby]

Any person who provides what the public wants a lot of, will get rich. Even some who are mechanics on cars get rich. I had a pal who proved it. Ed worked for a firm panting home doors by the hour. And was just making a decent living. He decided to try harder. So he got hold of a gas station and was good at that. But he still was not where he wanted to be. So starting in the station garage, he learned how to rebuild automatic transmissions. And later moved that to a rented building and got rid of the gas station. We were acquaintances from the time he moved to CA but later became close friends. Over the years, I quit working in construction and after several small businesses became a Real Estate Broker with agents working at my office. Ed and I worked as I was his agent and he my customer. I sold Ed property, some homes and some commercial. Ed kept using my service. Over time he rebuilt for me at no charge the transmission for my then Mark 4 Lincoln. I found more property for him and repaid him by discounts. Finally Ed sold out what he owned in Ca to move to Oregon. He left CA with millions of dollars in cash. And in Oregon he bought rental properties used for storage and also small businesses there. He wanted me to also move to Oregon to stay as his Broker agent. I had family in Ca and did not move to Oregon. In Oregon he also bought a RV park on the Pacific Coast. He had his sister manage that. He also bought a 500 unit storage facility and raked in big bucks. He rose from painting doors to being worth many many millions. He wanted a new Hummer so bought one. He wanted his family to live in a mansion and bought one. I sold his very huge home when he left CA for close to a million dollars. He had no debt on that one. His son loved the Auto business and opened his well equipped building engines shop and does well. He learned it from his dad. His other son still lives in CA and he also has a transmission shop and really makes a lot of money. This does not end with the father, getting rich spreads to the family. Ed was a remarkable person who I proudly call friend. Even you can get rich if you make good plans.

I don't understand why you gave me this long-winded example that told me pretty much nothing. My point still stands, the rich do not give us jobs or create prosperity. The demands of the middle class do.

 

[DukeU]

You don't get to interrogate me, dipshit.

Just giving you a chance to elaborate on your brilliant idea.

 

[MayorQuimby]

There is nothing in this world you can explain to me .
I am light years away from you .
CLUE
Progress and humanity may be desirable but they are not inextricably linked .

If you want your sentimental humanitarian world , go be a Trappist Monk and eat flowers.
But never forget that those that led the Apes out of the Stone Age were the fastest , strongest and bravest .
That was the infrastructure that later eventually led to your soppy sugary Lefty choices being an option .

Dude I don't even know what the hell you are talking about. Did you cut your cocaine with too much fentanyl.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Just giving you a chance to elaborate on your brilliant idea.

Brilliant? Probably not. But it is an idea, and you can read about it again in post # 68.

 

[Polishprince]

Any person who provides what the public wants a lot of, will get rich.

Exactly.


And that's why deporting people who succeed is such a silly, socialist idea.

If Carnegie and Frick and Rockefeller had been deported, the country would have never risen to the power it did. Some other nation would have become industrialized instead, and Togo or Papua New Guinea would be world powers today instead of the US.

 

[DukeU]

I don't understand why you gave me this long-winded example that told me pretty much nothing. My point still stands, the rich do not give us jobs or create prosperity. The demands of the middle class do.

Without the capital it takes to create infrastructure, those demands would not be met.