"I Had an Abortion"

[laughinReaper]

One more thing, for heaven sakes ladies dress a little better.

Do you understand that you come across as a creepy obsessive control freak? Spending your days obsessing about women who dare have sex in a manner you disapprove of is just weird and pervy. Find some other hobby.

Did you read the whole post? And the other things he has written. He really is creepy.

Hello, I see you didn't get the memo, I'm a woman,and mother of three daughters. I want a better world for them other then the low bar the liberal agenda sets for them and others females. I guess in your book wanting women to be self sufficient,educated, demand men treat them with respect and properly plan their families with the least possible physical and mental trauma to themselves as possible is creepy.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I don't know how to post a picture so I have the link here. It's a picture of a so called feminist named Gloria Steinem, smiling face proudly wearing a t-shirt that reads "I Had an Abortion".


My first reaction was disbelief. Are you kidding me lady. Does she think that the picture glorifiying her Abortion makes her some type of heroine? This is what the picture really says.

Gloria Steinem is so irresponsible that she had unprotected sex,and they used a barbaric and obsolete practice to mercilessly hack to death an unborn child because she couldn't face the consequences of her actions. That's pro choice for you.

I want you to notice that pro choice advocates only give you one choice, abortion. A real feminist knows she has many choices and that abortion isn't one of them. A real feminist respects her body enough to not have it used as a "c*m dumptser". She chooses her man carefully and demands he uses a condom if they are not exclusive as extra protection against pregnancy and disease. She uses birthcontrol to ensure she doesn't have an unwanted pregnancy. She isn't Pro choice, she is pro choices,has a brain and uses it. Should she find herself pregnant she excepts the consequences of her actions. She knows from the start that if she isn't ready to except the consequences of her actions then maybe she isn't ready to have sex in the first place.

Gloria Steinem should hang her head in shame. She's a poor example for women to follow and too stupid to realize it.

Karen Santorum should hang her head in shame. She's a poor example for women to follow and too stupid to realize it.

The reason why either woman chose an abortion is none of your business.

it becomes my business when she makes a public statement that she parades around on a T shirt no less, like it's a trivia matter when it's not. It becomes my business when people call her a feminist and she parades around in that shirt because it sends the wrong message. Gloria Steinem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm here to say she wears clown shoes and doesn't represent real feminists. I don't give a flying **** about Karen Santorum. If she starts wearing a I had an abortion T shirt like it's something females should be proud of, then I'll ride her ass too.

So, you agree that women are the owners of their own bodies and that government should not be in control of women's reproduction.

Its that Steinem wore a shirt that says she agrees with you that women are the owners of their own bodies and that government should not be in control of women's reproduction that bothers you.

Are there any other rights that you believe should not appear on a t-shirt?

(You're a maroon.)

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Do you understand that you come across as a creepy obsessive control freak? Spending your days obsessing about women who dare have sex in a manner you disapprove of is just weird and pervy. Find some other hobby.

Did you read the whole post? And the other things he has written. He really is creepy.

Hello, I see you didn't get the memo, I'm a woman,and mother of three daughters. I want a better world for them other then the low bar the liberal agenda sets for them and others females. I guess in your book wanting women to be self sufficient,educated, demand men treat them with respect and properly plan their families with the least possible physical and mental trauma to themselves as possible is creepy.

I've never seen you post anything in favor of women so no, I had no idea that you believe any of those things.

And, I still don't believe it because what you write is very ugly and toxic and hateful towards women.

 

[Steven_R]

Men should never be let off the hook for fathering a child.

Why not? So long as the decision as to whether or not the child will even be born is unilaterally with the mother, why shouldn't the father have a say in the process? If the woman gets pregnant and doesn't want a baby, vacuum the womb. If the woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want a baby, tough shit, just pay up for the next 18 years. The reverse is true, if the woman doesn't want a kid and the man does, he just gets to stand by and watch his offspring be vacuumed out. And we haven't even gotten into custody of children.

It's hardly an equitable system.

 

[emilynghiem]

Hi LR: Where abortion/Roe v Wade is a women's issue
is the reason the law was struck down as unconstitutional
is that it violated due process of women whose privacy would have to be violated
to defend her of charges based on "mitigating factors"

I have YET to see any law proposed by either side of this debate
that held MEN accountable for the consequences of pregnancy/abortion as the WOMEN

THAT'S why it's a women's issue
and the fighting over it has prevented work to reach any kind of agreement
on solutions that would PREVENT abuse leading to abortion or PREVENT
from penalizing/imposing on women more than men, especially in case of rape/incest

it always ends up being a women's issue because of who is affected by legislation

If laws focused on equally holding men accountable for relationship abuse and rape
that leads to unwanted pregnancy/children/abortion, then maybe we could get around it being primarily a women's issue. we'd have to police the abuse at the point of having sex where it involves both the men and women equally accountable to make it gender neutral!

Gloria, like any good Jewish business person, has made a mint off selling the degradation of womanhood and furthering the destruction of society.

Sell the Holocaust™ or sell Feminism™ and line your pockets with the shekels of the goyim. It's a win win.

it's unfortunate that people believe this is feminism cause it's not. I guess that's what you get when you have a culture that accepts everything the liberal media says without question. Libbers are so busy trying to keep Roe v Wade alive that they never stop to think about the implications of what abortion on demand says about their skewed thinking. Abortion shouldn't even be an issue because it's obsolete. It's like taking away an I phone 5 and handing that person a rotary dial phone attached to a wall. There are better ways not to get pregnant and they have been around longer than abortion has so why Abortion was ever considered necessary IDK. Laziness?

Lifers if you want to get rid of abortion it's simple. Drop the religious aspect(see Mathew 7:6) you can't force someone whose eyes are not open to see. We need to approach it from a secular point ot view. This way the message reaches all women at whatever level of life they are at. Point out to the girls the multiple ways of not getting pregnant including the pill whether you agree with personally it or not. Show the girls that they run the show and have a right not ot have sex if they are uncomfortable or to demand the man be responisble too and use a condom. Teach the girls that abortion is not good for their body and they should at all times respect thier body and that abortion = major fail.

One more thing, for heaven sakes ladies dress a little better. If you don't want a man to treat you like a sex object, don't dress like one. Seriously, the guy is going to follow your lead,if you look like "a ho" than he will treat you like one. If you look like a well put together lady he will treat you like one. If he doesn't, dump him, the choice is yours. Demand the respect you deserve, that's real feminism.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I agree with you that its not an "equitable system" but its almost always the woman who gets stuck with 100% of the responsibility for raising the child the man refused to support.

Even so - government has no place in controlling women's reproduction. Period.

Get government out of our private lives.

 

[emilynghiem]

Men should never be let off the hook for fathering a child.

Why not? So long as the decision as to whether or not the child will even be born is unilaterally with the mother, why shouldn't the father have a say in the process? If the woman gets pregnant and doesn't want a baby, vacuum the womb. If the woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want a baby, tough shit, just pay up for the next 18 years. The reverse is true, if the woman doesn't want a kid and the man does, he just gets to stand by and watch his offspring be vacuumed out. And we haven't even gotten into custody of children.

It's hardly an equitable system.

Both partners should be held accountable for relationship abuse,
where any actions or decisions affecting people should ideally reflect consent of both.

if we required counseling and conflict resolution training and assistance
to prevent, reduce, or correct relationship abuse, we'd not only cut down
on bullying and abuse but crime and violence that results when these escalate.

 

[emilynghiem]

I agree with you that its not an "equitable system" but its almost always the woman who gets stuck with 100% of the responsibility for raising the child the man refused to support.

Even so - government has no place in controlling women's reproduction. Period.

Get government out of our private lives.

I love your statement Luddly.
But this is where a huge question mark hangs over my head.

how can you say to get govt out of our private lives
but then have health care mandated by federal govt,
precluding and penalizing other choices of health care.

Luddly after working with prochoice and prolife activists over the years
nothing is going to change their minds, but the most we can agree on
is to separate funding so people are not imposing on each other through govt.

can we agree to separate and respect equal free choice to get govt out of the equation?

this ACA allows prolife people to understand why prochoice people demand choice.
we have a chance to reach a greater understanding here, about
solving problems at the root, not charging or costing or penalizing people after the fact.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Hi LR: Where abortion/Roe v Wade is a women's issue
is the reason the law was struck down as unconstitutional
is that it violated due process of women whose privacy would have to be violated
to defend her of charges based on "mitigating factors"

I have YET to see any law proposed by either side of this debate
that held MEN accountable for the consequences of pregnancy/abortion as the WOMEN

THAT'S why it's a women's issue
and the fighting over it has prevented work to reach any kind of agreement
on solutions that would PREVENT abuse leading to abortion or PREVENT
from penalizing/imposing on women more than men, especially in case of rape/incest

it always ends up being a women's issue because of who is affected by legislation

If laws focused on equally holding men accountable for relationship abuse and rape
that leads to unwanted pregnancy/children/abortion, then maybe we could get around it being primarily a women's issue. we'd have to police the abuse at the point of having sex where it involves both the men and women equally accountable to make it gender neutral!

Gloria, like any good Jewish business person, has made a mint off selling the degradation of womanhood and furthering the destruction of society.

Sell the Holocaust™ or sell Feminism™ and line your pockets with the shekels of the goyim. It's a win win.

it's unfortunate that people believe this is feminism cause it's not. I guess that's what you get when you have a culture that accepts everything the liberal media says without question. Libbers are so busy trying to keep Roe v Wade alive that they never stop to think about the implications of what abortion on demand says about their skewed thinking. Abortion shouldn't even be an issue because it's obsolete. It's like taking away an I phone 5 and handing that person a rotary dial phone attached to a wall. There are better ways not to get pregnant and they have been around longer than abortion has so why Abortion was ever considered necessary IDK. Laziness?

Lifers if you want to get rid of abortion it's simple. Drop the religious aspect(see Mathew 7:6) you can't force someone whose eyes are not open to see. We need to approach it from a secular point ot view. This way the message reaches all women at whatever level of life they are at. Point out to the girls the multiple ways of not getting pregnant including the pill whether you agree with personally it or not. Show the girls that they run the show and have a right not ot have sex if they are uncomfortable or to demand the man be responisble too and use a condom. Teach the girls that abortion is not good for their body and they should at all times respect thier body and that abortion = major fail.

One more thing, for heaven sakes ladies dress a little better. If you don't want a man to treat you like a sex object, don't dress like one. Seriously, the guy is going to follow your lead,if you look like "a ho" than he will treat you like one. If you look like a well put together lady he will treat you like one. If he doesn't, dump him, the choice is yours. Demand the respect you deserve, that's real feminism.

Emily, your posts are so hard to translate that I don't usually even try to read them.

For example, I've tried to imagine punctuation and caps in this first paragraph and I just can't make any sense of it.

But, because of context, there are a few points that are understandable so - I think I agree with you.

 

[TNHarley]

laughinreaper and koshergrl are made for each other: creepy and creepier.

theya are conservatives, not gay

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I agree with you that its not an "equitable system" but its almost always the woman who gets stuck with 100% of the responsibility for raising the child the man refused to support.

Even so - government has no place in controlling women's reproduction. Period.

Get government out of our private lives.

I love your statement Luddly.
But this is where a huge question mark hangs over my head.

how can you say to get govt out of our private lives
but then have health care mandated by federal govt,
precluding and penalizing other choices of health care.

Luddly after working with prochoice and prolife activists over the years
nothing is going to change their minds, but the most we can agree on
is to separate funding so people are not imposing on each other through govt.

can we agree to separate and respect equal free choice to get govt out of the equation?

this ACA allows prolife people to understand why prochoice people demand choice.
we have a chance to reach a greater understanding here, about
solving problems at the root, not charging or costing or penalizing people after the fact.

I agree. I don't think govt has any place in our medical care.

OTOH, how else to make people take responsibility for their own costs? Like auto insurance, ObamaCare forces people to take responsibility.

As you well know, our current "system" is a bust and, even though the rw's won't admit it, it IS socialist.

I appreciate that you used a couple of commas but I still can't make heads or tails out of your last lines. Is that the same subject and therefore the same paragraph? How does ACA help or not help "solve problems at the root"? WHAT is the "root"?

 

[TNHarley]

I am very pro-choice, but this is disgusting.
it is nothing to fuckin brag about.

 

[whitehall]

Steinem is old enough to have had an abortion during WW2.

 

[TNHarley]

Men should never be let off the hook for fathering a child.

sperm donation?
the woman gets off the hook as well with abortion you know..
I had a buddy that wanted to kill his gf because she aborted behind his back. like I seriously.thought he was going.to hurt her.. aint been the same with chicks.since

 

[jknowgood]

I agree with you that its not an "equitable system" but its almost always the woman who gets stuck with 100% of the responsibility for raising the child the man refused to support.

Even so - government has no place in controlling women's reproduction. Period.

Get government out of our private lives.

Well i'm a single father, have been for 12 years and don't get child support. Thd real kicker is she claimed my son last year on her taxes costed me over two grand.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I am very pro-choice, but this is disgusting.
it is nothing to fuckin brag about.

Where did anyone "brag"?

You must have seen a different shirt than I did because all I saw was the simple. declarative statement - "I had an abortion".

Please post a link to the "bragging".

Thanks.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Steinem is old enough to have had an abortion during WW2.

When you're old enough to have sex and wear long pants, you'll understand that pregnancies have been unwanted as well as wanted since the beginning of time.

 

[TNHarley]

she shouldnt be showing the world she is irresponsible. I know your ass condones that, but responsible people dont
if I wore a shirt that said "I am rich" pretty sure that would be bragging, numbnuts

 

[jknowgood]

One more thing, for heaven sakes ladies dress a little better.

Do you understand that you come across as a creepy obsessive control freak? Spending your days obsessing about women who dare have sex in a manner you disapprove of is just weird and pervy. Find some other hobby.

Really? what did I say that you disagree with? Oh I see, your offended because I asked women demand something better not to be sex objects and c*m dumpsters for womanizing men? Well I guess that explains what YOUR hobby is.

C%m catchers is more political correct. Lol

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Men should never be let off the hook for fathering a child.

sperm donation?
the woman gets off the hook as well with abortion you know..
I had a buddy that wanted to kill his gf because she aborted behind his back. like I seriously.thought he was going.to hurt her.. aint been the same with chicks.since

Lucky chicks.

Well i'm a single father, have been for 12 years and don't get child support. Thd real kicker is she claimed my son last year on her taxes costed me over two grand.

Like I said, I agree that its not an equitable system but your situation is rare compared to women being deserted by dead beat "fathers".

Men who don't support their children are so revered by the tee potties, they even elected one. Luckily, saner voters prevailed and threw his useless butt out. Which is what his wife should have done before her first pregnancy.