I don't understand why republicans reject both a minimum wage hike and welfare for the poor

[Billy000]

It would dramatically fix the ******* problem of the poor on welfare!

no dear, because those already making $15.00/hour would then need a raise too to keep the differential. When the entire wage scale went up prices would go up too and no net benefit would be possible. There is no free lunch! And that is not to mention the job loss thanks to the higher wages or the disincentive to work harder and smarter when higher wages come from lib soviet paper shuffling intervention rather then real productivity increases.

The proposed wage would be lifted gradually over a couple of years. Not only would this make the initial job loss small, it would give businesses time to prepare. The increase In consumer spending for these 10s of millions would create jobs in the process. Prices would also go down.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The proposed wage would be lifted gradually over a couple of years. Not only would this make the initial job loss small, it would give businesses time to prepare. The increase In consumer spending for these 10s of millions would create jobs in the process. Prices would also go down.

100% stupid!! you don't get richer by shuffleing papers and laws. That's not how we got from the stone age to here. Economic growth comes from increased productivity not welfare
1) gradually? so that just slows down the negative consequences
2) increased spending?? 100% stupid higher wages come from somewhere and so dampen spending. There is no free lunch you idiot!!
3) prices down? higer wages and prices go down?? Idiot liberal!!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Well, that's arguably what the whole bankster bailout was.

1) too stupid!! the money was paid back
2) it prevented a world wide depression
3) many huge firms went bankrupt
4) 1000's lost their jobs
5) bailout was one time deal, liberals want welfare forever that never gets paid back
see why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

Just wanted to call you out on your hypocrisy. Please don't try to pretend you're libertarian.

too stupid!! if there is hypocrisy why are you so afraid to say exactly where it is? What does your fear teach us?

 

[dblack]

Well, that's arguably what the whole bankster bailout was.

1) too stupid!! the money was paid back
2) it prevented a world wide depression
3) many huge firms went bankrupt
4) 1000's lost their jobs
5) bailout was one time deal, liberals want welfare forever that never gets paid back
see why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

Just wanted to call you out on your hypocrisy. Please don't try to pretend you're libertarian.

too stupid!! if there is hypocrisy why are you so afraid to say exactly where it is? What does your fear teach us?

Oh shoot. I'm sorry if you got that impression. Let me be more clear. Your hypocrisy is, exactly, that you whine about the welfare state when it is giving money to the poor, but have no problem with it when it is bailing out the banks and corporations. You're a phony, straight up!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

We are all slaves to Big Government and Corporations..

I feel especially enslaved to Apple for inventing all those cool products and to others for all those life saving medical devices!!

 

[Billy000]

The proposed wage would be lifted gradually over a couple of years. Not only would this make the initial job loss small, it would give businesses time to prepare. The increase In consumer spending for these 10s of millions would create jobs in the process. Prices would also go down.

100% stupid!! you don't get richer by shuffleing papers and laws. That's not how we got from the stone age to here. Economic growth comes from increased productivity not welfare
1) gradually? so that just slows down the negative consequences
2) increased spending?? 100% stupid higher wages come from somewhere and so dampen spending. There is no free lunch you idiot!!
3) prices down? higer wages and prices go down?? Idiot liberal!!!

lol of course it slows down the consequences. The job loss would be slight overall. Price increases would be slight as well.

Lol it amazes me how you people lack an understanding economics. This economy is driven by consumer spending. If people have bigger paychecks, they spend more money on the market. This means any loss of initial capital would be regained and more over time. This isn't welfare you doofus. Oh, by the way, 600 economists including 7 Nobel prize winners signed a letter in support of raising the minimum wage. Not only that, but 3 out 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage. Don't you think it's kind of pathetic you get all your economic beliefs from republicans?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Your hypocrisy is, exactly, that you whine about the welfare state when it is giving money to the poor, but have no problem with it when it is bailing out the banks and corporations.

dear, a short term loan that is paid back to prevent a worldwide depression is infinitely different from a lifetime of welfare that is crippling ,never paid back, and used to buy votes!!.

See why we liberalilsm is based in pure ignorance?

 

[dblack]

Your hypocrisy is, exactly, that you whine about the welfare state when it is giving money to the poor, but have no problem with it when it is bailing out the banks and corporations.

dear, a short term loan that is paid back to prevent a worldwide depression is infinitely different from a lifetime of welfare that is crippling ,never paid back, and used to buy votes!!.

See why we liberalilsm is based in pure ignorance?

Uh.. yeah.... riiiiight.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. If people have bigger paychecks,

too stuipid by 1000% . the govt does not print money for a new minimum wage law. So, the money comes out of other people's pockets so no net spending increase is possible. There is no free lunch.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Your hypocrisy is, exactly, that you whine about the welfare state when it is giving money to the poor, but have no problem with it when it is bailing out the banks and corporations.

dear, a short term loan that is paid back to prevent a worldwide depression is infinitely different from a lifetime of welfare that is crippling ,never paid back, and used to buy votes!!.

See why we liberalilsm is based in pure ignorance?

Uh.. yeah.... riiiiight.

translation: I'm' a stupid liberal who has no business here

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The proposed wage would be lifted gradually over a couple of years. Not only would this make the initial job loss small, it would give businesses time to prepare. The increase In consumer spending for these 10s of millions would create jobs in the process. Prices would also go down.

100% stupid!! you don't get richer by shuffleing papers and laws. That's not how we got from the stone age to here. Economic growth comes from increased productivity not welfare
1) gradually? so that just slows down the negative consequences
2) increased spending?? 100% stupid higher wages come from somewhere and so dampen spending. There is no free lunch you idiot!!
3) prices down? higer wages and prices go down?? Idiot liberal!!!

lol of course it slows down the consequences. The job loss would be slight overall. Price increases would be slight as well.

Lol it amazes me how you people lack an understanding economics. This economy is driven by consumer spending. If people have bigger paychecks, they spend more money on the market. This means any loss of initial capital would be regained and more over time. This isn't welfare you doofus. Oh, by the way, 600 economists including 7 Nobel prize winners signed a letter in support of raising the minimum wage. Not only that, but 3 out 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage. Don't you think it's kind of pathetic you get all your economic beliefs from republicans?

so dear why not end poverty all over the globe with free lunch laws requiring evil corps to hire enough and pay enough to end poverty forever???

and while you're thinking about that why not give us a list of the 1000 other lib commie interventions you want because you lack the IQ to understand capitalism whcih just ended 40% of world poverty in China.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't understand how an op can be so stupid as to create a title that is total bullshit & still believe it.

 

[dblack]

Your hypocrisy is, exactly, that you whine about the welfare state when it is giving money to the poor, but have no problem with it when it is bailing out the banks and corporations.

dear, a short term loan that is paid back to prevent a worldwide depression is infinitely different from a lifetime of welfare that is crippling ,never paid back, and used to buy votes!!.

See why we liberalilsm is based in pure ignorance?

Uh.. yeah.... riiiiight.

translation: I'm' a stupid liberal who has no business here

That's it exactly. How did you know!?!

 

[Billy000]

The proposed wage would be lifted gradually over a couple of years. Not only would this make the initial job loss small, it would give businesses time to prepare. The increase In consumer spending for these 10s of millions would create jobs in the process. Prices would also go down.

100% stupid!! you don't get richer by shuffleing papers and laws. That's not how we got from the stone age to here. Economic growth comes from increased productivity not welfare
1) gradually? so that just slows down the negative consequences
2) increased spending?? 100% stupid higher wages come from somewhere and so dampen spending. There is no free lunch you idiot!!
3) prices down? higer wages and prices go down?? Idiot liberal!!!

lol of course it slows down the consequences. The job loss would be slight overall. Price increases would be slight as well.

Lol it amazes me how you people lack an understanding economics. This economy is driven by consumer spending. If people have bigger paychecks, they spend more money on the market. This means any loss of initial capital would be regained and more over time. This isn't welfare you doofus. Oh, by the way, 600 economists including 7 Nobel prize winners signed a letter in support of raising the minimum wage. Not only that, but 3 out 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage. Don't you think it's kind of pathetic you get all your economic beliefs from republicans?

so dear why not end poverty all over the globe with free lunch laws requiring evil corps to hire enough and pay enough to end poverty forever???

and while you're thinking about that why not give us a list of the 1000 other lib commie interventions you want because you lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

I don't understand where you people get this "free lunch" mentality about the left. No one is suggesting such a thing. I suppose it makes it easy for you to demonize and dismiss the left believing such non sense, but you sound like a fool. I am all for everyone working for a living to support themselves. Nothing I have said disputes that.

 

[Billy000]

I don't understand how an op can be so stupid as to create a title that is total bullshit & still believe it.

Lol ok explain why it is bullshit. What are you waiting for?

 

[dblack]

The proposed wage would be lifted gradually over a couple of years. Not only would this make the initial job loss small, it would give businesses time to prepare. The increase In consumer spending for these 10s of millions would create jobs in the process. Prices would also go down.

100% stupid!! you don't get richer by shuffleing papers and laws. That's not how we got from the stone age to here. Economic growth comes from increased productivity not welfare
1) gradually? so that just slows down the negative consequences
2) increased spending?? 100% stupid higher wages come from somewhere and so dampen spending. There is no free lunch you idiot!!
3) prices down? higer wages and prices go down?? Idiot liberal!!!

lol of course it slows down the consequences. The job loss would be slight overall. Price increases would be slight as well.

Lol it amazes me how you people lack an understanding economics. This economy is driven by consumer spending. If people have bigger paychecks, they spend more money on the market. This means any loss of initial capital would be regained and more over time. This isn't welfare you doofus. Oh, by the way, 600 economists including 7 Nobel prize winners signed a letter in support of raising the minimum wage. Not only that, but 3 out 5 small businesses support raising the minimum wage. Don't you think it's kind of pathetic you get all your economic beliefs from republicans?

so dear why not end poverty all over the globe with free lunch laws requiring evil corps to hire enough and pay enough to end poverty forever???

and while you're thinking about that why not give us a list of the 1000 other lib commie interventions you want because you lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

I don't understand where you people get this "free lunch" mentality about the left. No one is suggesting such a thing. I suppose it makes it easy for you to demonize and dismiss the left believing such non sense, but you sound like a fool. I am all for everyone working for a living to support themselves. Nothing I have said disputes that.

I'm under no such delusion. Near as I can tell, the left wants people to knuckle under and serve their masters.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't understand how an op can be so stupid as to create a title that is total bullshit & still believe it.

Lol ok explain why it is bullshit. What are you waiting for?

You are too easy....simpleton

 

[Billy000]

I don't understand how an op can be so stupid as to create a title that is total bullshit & still believe it.

Lol ok explain why it is bullshit. What are you waiting for?

You are too easy....simpleton

You always back down.

 

[paulitician]

My bad.

Correction: We're all slaves to Big Government and Corporations.

And you are one happy slave

Are you really denying my assertion? We are all slaves to Big Government and Corporations. If you believe otherwise, you really are in delusional denial.

Really...

So how am I a slave to GM? I sold my GM car the moment they got money from the socialists in government.

I don't own a single GM product. GM doesn't get a single penny of my money. GM has not forced me to do anything.

How am I a slave of GM?

I am a slave of the Federal Government. If I don't pay them, they send guys with guns, and either confiscate my stuff by force, or throw me in prison.

And that same government gave some of the money they stole from me, to GM. GM didn't do it. Government did.

I'm slave to government giving money stolen from me to Medicaid, Medicare, SNAP, Section 8 housing, Welfare, WIC, and other benefits.

And even if I work my whole life, and earn the money to purchase property, if I live in a city environment and refuse to pay the government tax on the property I rightfully earned, the government will steal my property from me.

Who exactly are you a slave too?

You're a slave who doesn't realize they're a slave

That you are the only one celebrating your slavery doesn't mean that you are the only one aware of the situation

Not celebrating. Just accepting reality. The 'Thomas Jefferson Good Ole Days' are never coming back. Small Government is dead. We're Big Government. And that's that.

 

[paulitician]

And you are one happy slave

Are you really denying my assertion? We are all slaves to Big Government and Corporations. If you believe otherwise, you really are in delusional denial.

Really...

So how am I a slave to GM? I sold my GM car the moment they got money from the socialists in government.

I don't own a single GM product. GM doesn't get a single penny of my money. GM has not forced me to do anything.

How am I a slave of GM?

I am a slave of the Federal Government. If I don't pay them, they send guys with guns, and either confiscate my stuff by force, or throw me in prison.

And that same government gave some of the money they stole from me, to GM. GM didn't do it. Government did.

I'm slave to government giving money stolen from me to Medicaid, Medicare, SNAP, Section 8 housing, Welfare, WIC, and other benefits.

And even if I work my whole life, and earn the money to purchase property, if I live in a city environment and refuse to pay the government tax on the property I rightfully earned, the government will steal my property from me. Who exactly are you a slave too?

He's a slave to government, he worships politicians

I don't worship anyone. And you're a slave too. You're just continuing to live in stubborn denial.

I was pointing out the idiocy of your incessantly telling anyone who disagrees with you they do it because we worship someone. Can I take it from your indignation when it's done to you that the message was received and you'll cut the crap on that?

And I never denied anything, Einstein. I said I don't rejoice in slavery as you apparently do. That one I'm not saying to make a point...

Well, at least you may be finally accepting that you are a slave to Big Government and Corporations. It's a start i guess. There's still time for you to do some good. Try to help the poor and defenseless whenever possible. Don't let hate & greed consume you.