How Woud We Survive Without Them?

[ChrisL]

Oh yeah - and like it or not, they DO pay taxes. Untold millions withheld from pay checks to go into phony accounts that nobody claims. The same with FICA and state and local withholdings. And, who pays sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest while getting no benefits from paying them?

It sounds as if you are talking about illegals here. Is the thread just about immigrants in general? Your point is lost on me now.

Yeah, I WAS talking about illegals - but also the many legal immigrants who are here performing jobs native born Americans no longer want to do,

Well, thanks for clarifying that. I agree about illegals. They have absolutely no business working here in the US. Legal immigrants are legal citizens though. They have every right to apply for any jobs and work for any employers as any other legal citizen does. At least they made the effort and they are legal citizens. They are contributing to the economy and paying taxes.

Legal immigrants aren't citizens. Are you confused?

I think you need to read my post again. Lol. YOU seem to be the one who is confused.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh yeah - and like it or not, they DO pay taxes. Untold millions withheld from pay checks to go into phony accounts that nobody claims. The same with FICA and state and local withholdings. And, who pays sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest while getting no benefits from paying them?

It sounds as if you are talking about illegals here. Is the thread just about immigrants in general? Your point is lost on me now.

Yeah, I WAS talking about illegals - but also the many legal immigrants who are here performing jobs native born Americans no longer want to do,

Well, thanks for clarifying that. I agree about illegals. They have absolutely no business working here in the US. Legal immigrants are legal citizens though. They have every right to apply for any jobs and work for any employers as any other legal citizen does. At least they made the effort and they are legal citizens. They are contributing to the economy and paying taxes.

Legal immigrants aren't citizens. Are you confused?

Legal immigrants are legal citizens though.

 

[Oldglory1]

Oh yeah - and like it or not, they DO pay taxes. Untold millions withheld from pay checks to go into phony accounts that nobody claims. The same with FICA and state and local withholdings. And, who pays sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest while getting no benefits from paying them?

It sounds as if you are talking about illegals here. Is the thread just about immigrants in general? Your point is lost on me now.

Yeah, I WAS talking about illegals - but also the many legal immigrants who are here performing jobs native born Americans no longer want to do,

Well, thanks for clarifying that. I agree about illegals. They have absolutely no business working here in the US. Legal immigrants are legal citizens though. They have every right to apply for any jobs and work for any employers as any other legal citizen does. At least they made the effort and they are legal citizens. They are contributing to the economy and paying taxes.

Legal immigrants aren't citizens. Are you confused?

I think you need to read my post again. Lol. YOU seem to be the one who is confused.

Nope, this is exactly what you said. "US. Legal immigrants are legal citizens though". Immigrants even here legally are not citizens. You're still confused not me.

 

[Kondor3]

...Think about it!!!

I have.

Send them home.

We did just fine without them, before they snuck in.

We'll do just fine without them, once they're gone.

There may, indeed, be a period of adjustment.

Rather like a drunk, drying out...

The sooner we get started, the sooner the pain goes away...

 

[rhodescholar]

Who would cook our burgers and fries? Or take-out Chinese food? Or Tacos?

Who would bus the tables or wash the dishes?

Who would keep the public and private gardens neat?

Who would own and operate all the 24 hour convenience stores?

Who would stand around outside the Home Depots or Lowe's, available to do all those dirty little jobs nobody else wants?

Think about that the next time you complain about "the dirty greasers" or the Indians or Sikhs in the local 7-11,

How many of the food stamp vultures or welfare kings and queens do you see doing these things?

Oh yeah - and like it or not, they DO pay taxes. Untold millions withheld from pay checks to go into phony accounts that nobody claims. The same with FICA and state and local withholdings. And, who pays sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest while getting no benefits from paying them?

Think about it!!!

I am long past the time or patience of explaining the real world to the infinitely lazy like you, all I will say is that before the 1960s when the cu-ts in the democratic party chose to flood the country with brown illegals whose votes they expected, all of those jobs you list were somehow, magically, performed by americans.

There is going to be a mass uprising / deportation in this country, and it is not far in the future IMO. The chinese economy is collapsing, which will lead to mass layoffs in the West, and hundreds of millions will lose their jobs - and then will finally begin questioning why their governments are giving away welfare and free schooling/housing/medical care to the mass poor of this world. THEN the 600 million handguns and 400 million rifles in this country are going to be used to very good effect - and the liberal/leftist scum that screamed "racist!" as a response every time someone thought it may not be such a great idea to allow in tens of millions of illegals will hopefully be directly targeted alongside the illegals themselves.

 

[rhodescholar]

No, I don't think so. The illegal immigrants have helped to create a two tier wage system. If they were deported, and the welfare programs ended, I think the overall wage situation would increase. If a worker isn't paid enough they won't do the job. And if you get enough people refusing to work for shit wages the wages must increase. So long as you keep the illegals out of the country.

You are correct, but it would expose the democratic party to the reality that native-born are voting for it less and less, and have been since 1948. This is what drove them to begin importing mass amounts of poor brown people in 1965, they realized there was no one supporting their far left/great society lunatic programs, so they passed that legislation and sold it to the treasonous corporate wing of the republican party as a faustian bargain; the dems get votes and the corporates get to reduce wages.

This criminal enterprise has gone on for 5 decades, sustained with borrowed dollars from china as corporate america paid less and less taxes, and the middle class was slowly crushed to the point where its ability to continue paying higher and higher taxes is falling. Eventually, when the chinese economy fails - taking place right now - the US federal government will no longer have a resource with which to buy off the illegals' votes and the federal government itself will collapse. I estimate in 25 years the US is going to literally fracture into parts, and the World is going to enter a Great Depression making the first one seem like a July 4th barbacue. The 2008 economic maelstrom was merely a prelude to what is to come, and when it does, I hope the mass public remembers to punish those primarily responsible; the treasonous democratic party and its republican conspirators.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Who would cook our burgers and fries? Or take-out Chinese food? Or Tacos?

Who would bus the tables or wash the dishes?

Who would keep the public and private gardens neat?

Who would own and operate all the 24 hour convenience stores?

Who would stand around outside the Home Depots or Lowe's, available to do all those dirty little jobs nobody else wants?

Think about that the next time you complain about "the dirty greasers" or the Indians or Sikhs in the local 7-11,

How many of the food stamp vultures or welfare kings and queens do you see doing these things?

Oh yeah - and like it or not, they DO pay taxes. Untold millions withheld from pay checks to go into phony accounts that nobody claims. The same with FICA and state and local withholdings. And, who pays sales taxes, property taxes, and all the rest while getting no benefits from paying them?

Think about it!!!

robots and kiosks

with an IT running the whole thing

 

[rhodescholar]

There was no sarcasm meant. It is a simple observation about what I see around me on a daily basis.

I ate breakfast at Denny's where all the cooks were Hispanic, along with the bussers/dishwashers.

I went to a casino where every one of the porters were Hispanics.

I passed a Lowe's and Home Depot where Hispanics stood in the parking lot seeking work.

Just a statement of fact.

Another fact was how all of those jobs were once done by indigenous americans, but who stopped doing those jobs when they began to be inundated by illegals willing to work for peanuts.

This is the methodology of the liberals; create facts on the ground and argue that there was no other way things could be or ever were dont differently. Had the liberals/democrats not flooded the country, americans would still be in those jobs making a decent salary in them. To import half of south america, and then complain that "no one else will take those jobs" is a self-serving, transparent argument.

 

[rhodescholar]

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There is going to be a mass uprising / deportation in this country, and it is not far in the future IMO. The chinese economy is collapsing, which will lead to mass layoffs in the West, and hundreds of millions will lose their jobs - and then will finally begin questioning why their governments are giving away welfare and free schooling/housing/medical care to the mass poor of this world. THEN the 600 million handguns and 400 million rifles in this country are going to be used to very good effect - and the liberal/leftist scum that screamed "racist!" as a response every time someone thought it may not be such a great idea to allow in tens of millions of illegals will hopefully be directly targeted alongside the illegals themselves.

Take some Valium, and take this nonsense to the conspiracy forum, you fucking mental case.

When I see the liberals get this angry and resort to personal attacks, it solidifies how correct I am, and how devoid of an argument they have.

BTW, your personal attack was reported.

 

[Unkotare]

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I ate breakfast at Denny's where all the cooks were Hispanic, along with the bussers/dishwashers.

I went to a casino where every one of the porters were Hispanics......

Do you carry a notebook around so you can log the race and ethnicity of the people working everywhere you go?

 

[longknife]

Stirred up the pot, did I?

A lot of "menial" jobs are being performed more and more by machines that require different skill sets. And, with the socialist push for higher minimum wages, more and more will be replaced by robots.

Enter a fast food chain and step up to a computer screen. Touch what you want to order and it will provide your total. You then pay with a debit or credit card and machines in the back prepare, sort, package, and deliver - either to a place where you insert your receipt to claim it or the sole human being - manager - in the place.

A whole lot of low-skilled workers will be seeking other climes.

 

[Unkotare]

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When I see the liberals get this angry.....

Let me know when you see anger or a liberal, nutcase. There is a conspiracy forum here for a reason.

 

[longknife]

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I ate breakfast at Denny's where all the cooks were Hispanic, along with the bussers/dishwashers.

I went to a casino where every one of the porters were Hispanics......

Do you carry a notebook around so you can log the race and ethnicity of the people working everywhere you go?

No. I simply keep my eyes open to my surroundings. I am not a blind leftist/socialist who does not want to see the truth - as some posters here seem to be.

 

[Unkotare]

Japan: Land of the Vending Machines - AsiaOTP: Over the Perimeters

 

[rhodescholar]

All of those jobs were done by Americans at one point. And what really pisses me off? A lot of them were jobs that taught our children the value of a dollar and hard work.

You're not kidding. A few weeks ago after that massive NE snwostorm, my teen cousins went to shovel snow in their neighborhoods for like $25 a house or so, and they discovered that illegals - 4 or more to a truck - had been going up and down each block charging $10/house, and there had been ten to fifteen trucks that morning that already went through each block.

This is no different than the fast food restaurants, a place where decades ago, people like me worked in high school to earn some coin, now are taken by illegals. The sad thing is how many liberals in their 20/30s are so brainwashed by the leftist media that they actually think the situation today is what they idiotically think was always the case, or was inevitable, when it is an artificially created one by truly despicable people/groups in this country who do not give a fuck about anyone other than themselves, the votes they can buy, or the cheap wages they can pay.

 

[Unkotare]

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I ate breakfast at Denny's where all the cooks were Hispanic, along with the bussers/dishwashers.

I went to a casino where every one of the porters were Hispanics......

Do you carry a notebook around so you can log the race and ethnicity of the people working everywhere you go?

No. I simply keep my eyes open to my surroundings. .....

OK, do you make special note of the color of the walls and tables everywhere you go so you can recall it forever?

 

[rhodescholar]

Well, thanks for clarifying that. I agree about illegals. They have absolutely no business working here in the US. Legal immigrants are legal citizens though. They have every right to apply for any jobs and work for any employers as any other legal citizen does. At least they made the effort and they are legal citizens. They are contributing to the economy and paying taxes.

Both illegals and legals are a huge negative and problem.

Obviously the illegals needs to be mass deported, and so-called "legal" immigrants - like those imported through the criminal job theft H1B program need to leave as well, with that program terminated. The golden age of the middle class in this country was during a long period of almost zero legal immigration, from 1925-1965, and that was no accident.

 

[Unkotare]

All of those jobs were done by Americans at one point. And what really pisses me off? A lot of them were jobs that taught our children the value of a dollar and hard work.

You're not kidding. A few weeks ago after that massive NE snwostorm, my teen cousins went to shovel snow in their neighborhoods for like $25 a house or so, and they discovered that illegals - 4 or more to a truck - had been going up and down each block charging $10/house, and there had been ten to fifteen trucks that morning that already went through each block.....

Funny, we shoveled out our neighbors for free. Because, you know, we are their neighbors.

 

[longknife]

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I ate breakfast at Denny's where all the cooks were Hispanic, along with the bussers/dishwashers.

I went to a casino where every one of the porters were Hispanics......

Do you carry a notebook around so you can log the race and ethnicity of the people working everywhere you go?

No. I simply keep my eyes open to my surroundings. .....

OK, do you make special note of the color of the walls and tables everywhere you go so you can recall it forever?

Don't be such an ass.

 

[rhodescholar]

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I ate breakfast at Denny's where all the cooks were Hispanic, along with the bussers/dishwashers.

I went to a casino where every one of the porters were Hispanics......

Do you carry a notebook around so you can log the race and ethnicity of the people working everywhere you go?

No. I simply keep my eyes open to my surroundings. .....

OK, do you make special note of the color of the walls and tables everywhere you go so you can recall it forever?

Don't be such an ass.

Low quality, far left, stupid posters unable to join adult conversations troll threads, it's their nature.