How the hell is America supposed to compete?

[justoffal]

I've been shopping for a farm tractor. I don't have a farm but I do have a good size piece of land that requires maintenance and in the winter it's a pretty hefty snow removal job. Having grown tired being behind the snow blower for hours at a time I'm working for alternatives and it occurred to me that a farm tractor with the proper attachments would be just the ticket. One problem though.... These things are not cheap. Having looked at the available options here including John Deere, Kubota, New Holland, Chase.... Caterpillar and a few others you can't get anything worth a damn for less than about 70k.

Now check this out from Alibaba. Am I reading this wrong? Is it just a bullshit lie? How is a price like this even possible?

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[Godboy]

I've been shopping for a farm tractor. I don't have a farm but I do have a good size piece of land that requires maintenance and in the winter it's a pretty hefty snow removal job. Having grown tired being behind the snow blower for hours at a time I'm working for alternatives and it occurred to me that a farm tractor with the proper attachments would be just the ticket. One problem though.... These things are not cheap. Having looked at the available options here including John Deere, Kubota, New Holland, Chase.... Caterpillar and a few others you can't get anything worth a damn for less than about 70k.

Now check this out from Alibaba. Am I reading this wrong? Is it just a bullshit lie? How is a price like this even possible?

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I can answer that for you. That motherfucker is going to break down quick, and getting parts for it is going to be a nightmare.

 

[justoffal]

I can answer that for you. That motherfucker is going to break down quick, and getting parts for it is going to be a nightmare.

Yeah I was kind of thinking along those lines.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I've been shopping for a farm tractor. I don't have a farm but I do have a good size piece of land that requires maintenance and in the winter it's a pretty hefty snow removal job. Having grown tired being behind the snow blower for hours at a time I'm working for alternatives and it occurred to me that a farm tractor with the proper attachments would be just the ticket. One problem though.... These things are not cheap. Having looked at the available options here including John Deere, Kubota, New Holland, Chase.... Caterpillar and a few others you can't get anything worth a damn for less than about 70k.

Now check this out from Alibaba. Am I reading this wrong? Is it just a bullshit lie? How is a price like this even possible?

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Yeah, how are people supposed to cope with a huge piece of land where they need a tractor.

All the while in China, the people living in polluted cities, where they can't own any land, can't complain, strike, do anything interesting and are working for cheap so you can buy cheap shit, are going to end up unemployed with tons of debt because the CCP has been pushing up apartment prices for decades.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

Yeah, how are people supposed to cope with a huge piece of land where they need a tractor.

All the while in China, the people living in polluted cities, where they can't own any land, can't complain, strike, do anything interesting and are working for cheap so you can buy cheap shit, are going to end up unemployed with tons of debt because the CCP has been pushing up apartment prices for decades.

If you can't afford the machinery to maintain your property, that is YOUR problem.

 

[justoffal]

Yeah, how are people supposed to cope with a huge piece of land where they need a tractor.

All the while in China, the people living in polluted cities, where they can't own any land, can't complain, strike, do anything interesting and are working for cheap so you can buy cheap shit, are going to end up unemployed with tons of debt because the CCP has been pushing up apartment prices for decades.

So it's not exactly a bowl of cherries over the tree eh?

 

[the watcher]

Yeah, how are people supposed to cope with a huge piece of land where they need a tractor.

The obvious answer is for all land to be owned by the state's corporate partners for efficiency. They can then remove the proprietary regs for repairs, eliminate crushing taxes on the land, the fuel can be properly subsidized, and you will still be able to do odd jobs on the farm, as AI will do most of the heavy lifting. Better for you if you migrate to one of those new smart cities citizen.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you can't afford the machinery to maintain your property, that is YOUR problem.

Spoken like a true, loving, tolerant Progressive

 

[pknopp]

Spoken like a true, loving, tolerant Progressive

Same has long been said for those unable to afford health care.

 

[citygator]

I've been shopping for a farm tractor. I don't have a farm but I do have a good size piece of land that requires maintenance and in the winter it's a pretty hefty snow removal job. Having grown tired being behind the snow blower for hours at a time I'm working for alternatives and it occurred to me that a farm tractor with the proper attachments would be just the ticket. One problem though.... These things are not cheap. Having looked at the available options here including John Deere, Kubota, New Holland, Chase.... Caterpillar and a few others you can't get anything worth a damn for less than about 70k.

Now check this out from Alibaba. Am I reading this wrong? Is it just a bullshit lie? How is a price like this even possible?

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As an American you should have a choice. Trump is trying to take away your choices.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So it's not exactly a bowl of cherries over the tree eh?

Have you ever read Brandon Sanderson books? The one I just finished he had a guy who kept coming up with idioms that were just random and complaining he didn't understand everyone else's idioms. That's how I feel now.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The obvious answer is for all land to be owned by the state's corporate partners for efficiency. They can then remove the proprietary regs for repairs, eliminate crushing taxes on the land, the fuel can be properly subsidized, and you will still be able to do odd jobs on the farm, as AI will do most of the heavy lifting. Better for you if you migrate to one of those new smart cities citizen.

Well, you get the feeling that both China, supposedly Communist, and the US, are turning into countries with a few super companies. Freedoms will be decided by those with the money and that's that.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

Spoken like a true, loving, tolerant Progressive

Spoken with truth. If you can't afford it, not my problem.

 

[the watcher]

That is at the heart of the matter: our problems (the general population) are not the same as the government's agenda/problems. In fact they are totally at odds. I am not sure why it's so hard to grasp this, but it is.

Spoken with truth. If you can't afford it, not my problem.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

That is at the heart of the matter: our problems (the general population) are not the same as the government's agenda/problems. In fact they are totally at odds. I am not sure why it's so hard to grasp this, but it is.

here are some choices
vote
Get an education
Get a better job
move

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Spoken with truth. If you can't afford it, not my problem.

But you support inflating our dollars to pay for Illegals

 

[task0778]

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4 reviews, 2 liked it and 2 didn't. Caveat: I don't know shit about tractors, but this one doesn't cost $70k.

Also: how often is snow removal a problem? Can you pay somebody to do it for you? Or: move to Florida, you idiot.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

But you support inflating our dollars to pay for Illegals

Show me. You can't. You are a liar.

 

[Woodznutz]

I've been shopping for a farm tractor. I don't have a farm but I do have a good size piece of land that requires maintenance and in the winter it's a pretty hefty snow removal job. Having grown tired being behind the snow blower for hours at a time I'm working for alternatives and it occurred to me that a farm tractor with the proper attachments would be just the ticket. One problem though.... These things are not cheap. Having looked at the available options here including John Deere, Kubota, New Holland, Chase.... Caterpillar and a few others you can't get anything worth a damn for less than about 70k.

Now check this out from Alibaba. Am I reading this wrong? Is it just a bullshit lie? How is a price like this even possible?

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What do you want to do with land that requires a tractor? Have you considered a larger snow thrower. I once had a 36" Ariens, 10 hp walk behind. It was a monster that cleared a lot of snow really fast.

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[justoffal]

What do you want to do with land that requires a tractor? Have you considered a larger snow thrower. I once had a 36" Ariens, 10 hp walk behind. It was a monster that cleared a lot of snow really fast.

NEW Ariens Pro 36" Hydrostatic EFI 420cc Two-Stage Snow Blower 926081 -FREE SHIP | eBay

Model: 926081. Ariens 420cc AX EZ-Launch™ electronically-fuel injected engine. Hydrostatic drive system. The EFI engine starts easily and guzzles less fuel. Item is being sold by AE Outdoor Power, an Authorized Ariens Dealer & Repair Center located in Iowa.

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100 ft driveway and 200 foot frontage
Also have 4 yard dumpster that needs moving occasionally