How A.I. will fail education.

[Woodznutz]

A.I. will answer your specific questions. In fact, it will flood you with detailed, but narrowly focused, information relating solely to your specific question, never broadening the answer in a comprehensive way. This means that you must continuously refine your queries then knit the answers together yourself for a fuller understanding of the subject. But this whole enterprise rests on your ability to ask the right questions.

"The answers? Hell, I don't even know the questions."

 

[toobfreak]

A.I. will answer your specific questions. In fact, it will flood you with detailed, but narrowly focused, information relating solely to your specific question, never broadening the answer in a comprehensive way. \

I'm sure that will be improved upon over the next 5-10 years.

This means that you must continuously refine your queries then knit the answers together yourself for a fuller understanding of the subject. But this whole enterprise rests on your ability to ask the right questions.
"The answers? Hell, I don't even know the questions."

Among everything else, what AI will really do is make our kids dumber. Did our students get any better at math by moving from pencil and paper or slide rule to a calculator? All AI will do is move education from a process of personal exploration and learning to one of electronic copying and pasting.

 

[Unkotare]

A.I. will answer your specific questions. In fact, it will flood you with detailed, but narrowly focused, information relating solely to your specific question, never broadening the answer in a comprehensive way. This means that you must continuously refine your queries then knit the answers together yourself for a fuller understanding of the subject. But this whole enterprise rests on your ability to ask the right questions.

"The answers? Hell, I don't even know the questions."

You seem to think that the only thing to use AI for is asking and answering questions. Short sighted.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

A.I. will answer your specific questions. In fact, it will flood you with detailed, but narrowly focused, information relating solely to your specific question, never broadening the answer in a comprehensive way. This means that you must continuously refine your queries then knit the answers together yourself for a fuller understanding of the subject. But this whole enterprise rests on your ability to ask the right questions.

"The answers? Hell, I don't even know the questions."

Minds Narrowed Into Cellophane

That's what American "education" does anyway, except that AI is even more robotic.

 

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[Dekster]

A.I. will answer your specific questions. In fact, it will flood you with detailed, but narrowly focused, information relating solely to your specific question, never broadening the answer in a comprehensive way. This means that you must continuously refine your queries then knit the answers together yourself for a fuller understanding of the subject. But this whole enterprise rests on your ability to ask the right questions.

"The answers? Hell, I don't even know the questions."

You shouldn't let AI think for you. You just need to be able to work with it like you would any other program or app.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm sure that will be improved upon over the next 5-10 years.



Among everything else, what AI will really do is make our kids dumber. Did our students get any better at math by moving from pencil and paper or slide rule to a calculator? All AI will do is move education from a process of personal exploration and learning to one of electronic copying and pasting.

True. Reading is in trouble now. In 5-10 years it will certainly be much worse.

 

[Woodznutz]

You shouldn't let AI think for you. You just need to be able to work with it like you would any other program or app.

You work with it by beating it into submission until it gives you the answers you seek.

 

[Unkotare]

True. Reading is in trouble now. In 5-10 years it will certainly be much worse.

Because of AI? That's dumb.

 

[Dekster]

You work with it by beating it into submission until it gives you the answers you seek.

Well it would be easier just to google it yourself I suppose....

 

[Woodznutz]

Well it would be easier just to google it yourself I suppose....

Google might be better. Doesn't AI make up stuff if it doesn't know the answers? Also, AI often gives you TMI. It can be confusing.

 

[Dekster]

Google might be better. Doesn't AI make up stuff if it doesn't know the answers? Also, AI often gives you TMI. It can be confusing.

I read somewhere the other day AI gives you better answers if you ask your questions more rudely.

 

[Woodznutz]

I read somewhere the other day AI gives you better answers if you ask your questions more rudely.

I was looking for a specific answer that I already knew. It took five questions for AI to finally give it up.

 

[Dekster]

I was looking for a specific answer that I already knew. It took five questions for AI to finally give it up.

Then you didn't need it to begin with. The RAG data the AI accesses makes all the difference in the world. General for free sites just pull crap off the internet that is wrong or really bad. The ones being developed for specific industries are apparently quite impressive. They just need to get all the data into them, which is taking a lot of time and manpower.

 

[Woodznutz]

Then you didn't need it to begin with. The RAG data the AI accesses makes all the difference in the world. General for free sites just pull crap off the internet that is wrong or really bad. The ones being developed for specific industries are apparently quite impressive. They just need to get all the data into them, which is taking a lot of time and manpower.

AI will not improve the wellbeing of average Americans. The rich will simply get richer (not that there's anything wrong with that).

 

[Dekster]

AI will not improve the wellbeing of average Americans. The rich will simply get richer (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Investors will get a return on profit whether they are rich or not, and I suppose it depends on what one means by "average Americans". Use of AI in agriculture will help keep prices down over the long-term compared to what they otherwise would be, and if Google Maps tells me "Woe, Dude, there is a gnarly traffic jam ahead so I am sending you on a weird path to get you around it faster" then my life, in the moment, is better.

 

[Woodznutz]

Investors will get a return on profit whether they are rich or not, and I suppose it depends on what one means by "average Americans". Use of AI in agriculture will help keep prices down over the long-term compared to what they otherwise would be, and if Google Maps tells me "Woe, Dude, there is a gnarly traffic jam ahead so I am sending you on a weird path to get you around it faster" then my life, in the moment, is better.

Not everything is AI. A mouse trap detects when a mouse is nibbling on the bait and springs the trap, but it's hardly AI.

 

[Dekster]

Not everything is AI. A mouse trap detects when a mouse is nibbling on the bait and springs the trap, but it's hardly AI.

And yet google map uses AI including helping people avoid detours and traffic jams, and agriculture uses it for real time crop monitoring to decide when to spray and where, when to harvest, etc. It is already in a lot of average people's lives directly or indirectly whether they know it or not.

 

[Woodznutz]

And yet google map uses AI including helping people avoid detours and traffic jams, and agriculture uses it for real time crop monitoring to decide when to spray and where, when to harvest, etc. It is already in a lot of average people's lives directly or indirectly whether they know it or not.

And Americans get fatter, sicker, and unhappier. Do you see a disconnect there?

 

[Dekster]

And Americans get fatter, sicker, and unhappier. Do you see a disconnect there?

Well, perhaps next time you should walk yourself to the public library and look up whatever in the Encyclopedia Britannica instead of asking AI. Do you see the connect there?