Homan on trafficked 14-year old girl found pregnant..." this shit happens every day". So where is the MSM? (POLL)

[kyzr]

He only deported 870,000 people.
11.4 million were classified as "Returns". You caught them at a port or border and you sent them back.
Biden returned or deported 4.4 Million. More than Trump and more than any president since Dubya Bush.

You can type lies.

Here is the truth.

Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. "You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out," he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

www.cnn.com

According to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, more than 12 million people were “deported” – either removed or returned – from the US during the Clinton administration. More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration. Far fewer – more than 5 million – were removed or returned during the Obama administration.

Point being whether you catch an illegal at the border or in a city, they need to be removed, as Bush, Clinton, and Obama did, those millions of illegals did not get hearings before removal.

Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) in 1996, which established the expedited removal process, allowing for quicker deportations without the need for a hearing before an immigration judge. This law significantly increased the number of individuals eligible for deportation and streamlined the enforcement of immigration laws in the U.S.

 

[kyzr]

Because that number is bullshit on its face.

You typing lies is bullshit.

https://www.allsides.com/story/immigration-323000-migrant-children-missing-us-dhs-watchdog-finds

MSN

Don’t absolve Harris for the missing 320,000 migrant kids

The Biden-Harris administration has united conservatives and liberals. Both are disgusted by how the Democrats have mishandled the U.S.-Mexico border — albeit for different reasons. A recent …

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

https://www.newsnationnow.com/your-morning/your-morning-ice-unable-to-track-nearly-300k-immigrant-children-dhs-report/

 

[Muhammed]

Because that number is bullshit on its face.

The Democratic party of slavery didn't keep records of how many child sex slaves they imported under Pedo Joe.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Don't know.

Don't care.

Again, you guys can't outlaw something and then complain that something illegal is happening.

Fix the immigration system, put sufficient resources into tracking people and resolving cases, and then you can come back and talk to me.

You guys had your chance. You chose to build cages instead and then post up AOC and her fake tears.

 

[kyzr]

You guys had your chance. You chose to build cages instead and then post up AOC and her fake tears.

...then the MSM blamed Trump for putting "kids in cages".

The MSM kept posting "Trump put kids in cages stories", but no stories about the 320,000 kids the democrats are sex-trafficking

Fact check: Obama administration approved, built temporary holding enclosures at southern border

A meme about a recent speech is true. The facilities were built during the Obama era -- and were intended to hold migrant children for up to 72 hours.

www.usatoday.com

 

[TimFitz]

There aren't 320,000 lost kids.

There are 320,000 kids that ICE doesn't have current info on, but that's on ICE.

The kids know where they are at, usually with relatives.

Of course Biden didn’t los 320,000 kids.

It’s a right wing internet meme designed to get you to forget Trump’s forced separation policies, and how they lost track of separated children.

 

[JoeB131]

You can type lies.

Here is the truth.

You didn't talk about Obama, you talked about Clinton.

Same problem though. Returns are easy. You catch them at the border or the airport and you send them back.

Deportations are hard. They require court hearings.

 

[kyzr]

You didn't talk about Obama, you talked about Clinton.
Same problem though. Returns are easy. You catch them at the border or the airport and you send them back.
Deportations are hard. They require court hearings.

Maybe you didn't read all the way to the bottom of my post? Clinton waived the need for a hearing.

Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) in 1996, which established the expedited removal process, allowing for quicker deportations without the need for a hearing before an immigration judge. This law significantly increased the number of individuals eligible for deportation and streamlined the enforcement of immigration laws in the U.S.

 

[struth]

There aren't 320,000 lost kids.

There are 320,000 kids that ICE doesn't have current info on, but that's on ICE.

The kids know where they are at, usually with relatives.

Link that they know where they are at and usually with relatives…

 

[JoeB131]

Link that they know where they are at and usually with relatives…

I already did. Pay attention.

Or better yet, sit down, shut up, no one wants to talk to your illiterate ass.

Maybe you didn't read all the way to the bottom of my post? Clinton waived the need for a hearing.

For people caught at the border. There were still needs for hearings to remove people who had been here for years.

Are fast-track deportations an exception to due process?

Former President Bill Clinton signed a law establishing expedited removal, which allows for deportations without going before an immigration judge. But that isn’t an exception from due process, as social media posts have said.

www.politifact.com

All noncitizens in the U.S., regardless of their legal status or how they entered the country, have due process rights.

As president, Clinton deported 12.3 million people, according to the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute. But the majority of those deportations didn’t happen under expedited removal. Around 11.4 million of the deportations were returns, where immigrants generally choose to leave the U.S. at the border without further repercussions such as being barred from reentering.

Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) in 1996, which established the expedited removal process, allowing for quicker deportations without the need for a hearing before an immigration judge. This law significantly increased the number of individuals eligible for deportation and streamlined the enforcement of immigration laws in the U.S.

Not true.

But here's the thing. In Clinton's day, most of the immigrants were coming from Mexico. They weren't fleeing political persecution like someone from Venezuela or China, they were coming here because when Clinton signed NAFTA, he displaced millions of Mexican Agricultural workers who couldn't compete with American farmers.

In recent years, most of the people coming here have been political refugees claiming asylum from oppressive governments. And to be fair, a lot of those claims are kind of bogus, like the German couple who stayed here for 17 years claiming that they were being oppressed because Germany doesn't allow homeschooling.

 

[struth]

I already did. Pay attention.

Or better yet, sit down, shut up, no one wants to talk to your illiterate ass.



For people caught at the border. There were still needs for hearings to remove people who had been here for years.

Are fast-track deportations an exception to due process?

Former President Bill Clinton signed a law establishing expedited removal, which allows for deportations without going before an immigration judge. But that isn’t an exception from due process, as social media posts have said.

www.politifact.com

All noncitizens in the U.S., regardless of their legal status or how they entered the country, have due process rights.

As president, Clinton deported 12.3 million people, according to the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute. But the majority of those deportations didn’t happen under expedited removal. Around 11.4 million of the deportations were returns, where immigrants generally choose to leave the U.S. at the border without further repercussions such as being barred from reentering.



Not true.

But here's the thing. In Clinton's day, most of the immigrants were coming from Mexico. They weren't fleeing political persecution like someone from Venezuela or China, they were coming here because when Clinton signed NAFTA, he displaced millions of Mexican Agricultural workers who couldn't compete with American farmers.

In recent years, most of the people coming here have been political refugees claiming asylum from oppressive governments. And to be fair, a lot of those claims are kind of bogus, like the German couple who stayed here for 17 years claiming that they were being oppressed because Germany doesn't allow homeschooling.

There is zero links from you in this thread but the one here that does not support you claim that all those children are here with relatives

You lie

 

[jknowgood]

If we legalized prostitution and regulated it, this wouldn't be an issue.

Prostitution is legal in Nevada. They don't have this problem.

Legalizing prostitution is going to keep sick people from raping minors.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Legalizing prostitution is going to keep sick people from raping minors.

Hmmm

Child abuse cases are rising in Clark County. Local leaders say more education is crucial

For more than 40 years, April has been known as National Child Abuse Prevention Month — meant to raise awareness and help stop child abuse.

knpr.org

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Hmmm

Child abuse cases are rising in Clark County. Local leaders say more education is crucial

For more than 40 years, April has been known as National Child Abuse Prevention Month — meant to raise awareness and help stop child abuse.

knpr.org

Pedos prey on children, it's a sick disease and legalized prostitution isn't going to stop it

 

[kyzr]

For people caught at the border. There were still needs for hearings to remove people who had been here for years.
All noncitizens in the U.S., regardless of their legal status or how they entered the country, have due process rights.
As president, Clinton deported 12.3 million people, according to the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute. But the majority of those deportations didn’t happen under expedited removal. Around 11.4 million of the deportations were returns, where immigrants generally choose to leave the U.S. at the border without further repercussions such as being barred from reentering.

You are misinterpreting what "due process rights" means. It does not mean every illegal gets a hearing before a judge. It means ICE or CBP listens to their story and makes an immediate determination, as they did under Clinton for 12,000,000 deportations.

In Clinton's day, most of the immigrants were coming from Mexico. They weren't fleeing political persecution like someone from Venezuela or China, they were coming here because when Clinton signed NAFTA, he displaced millions of Mexican Agricultural workers who couldn't compete with American farmers. In recent years, most of the people coming here have been political refugees claiming asylum from oppressive governments. And to be fair, a lot of those claims are kind of bogus, like the German couple who stayed here for 17 years claiming that they were being oppressed because Germany doesn't allow homeschooling.

I agree than most claims of "fleeing oppression" are bogus. Chinese can't leave unless the government approves, those folks are most likely going to harm the US one way or another, same with Russians. Clinton deported 12,000,000. Trump should be allowed to do the same.

 

[struth]

Of course Biden didn’t los 320,000 kids.

It’s a right wing internet meme designed to get you to forget Trump’s forced separation policies, and how they lost track of separated children.

Actually it's based on a report during the Xiden admin from the IG over at DHS

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2024-08/OIG-24-46-Aug24.pdf

If you take the time to read it, which we know you won't, you'll see that 32,000 unaccompanied minors failed to show up for court dates at immigration courts from 2019-23. The report noted that 291,000 migrant children received no court notices at all. It also called on the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) to "take immediate action to ensure the safety" of unaccompanied migrant children in the US. Migrant children "who do not appear for court are considered at higher risk for trafficking, exploitation, or forced labor", the inspector general's office reported. The reality is, nobody knows, certianly the Xiden admin didn't know, what happened to these children....some are being found, as the OP highlighted, in horrible conditions.

 

[JoeB131]

Pedos prey on children, it's a sick disease and legalized prostitution isn't going to stop it

Of course it won't.

What it will stop is the place that hires a teenager for sex work because no one is regulating the sex workers to start with.

 

[Unkotare]

Of course it won't.

What it will stop is the place that hires a teenager for sex work because no one is regulating the sex workers to start with.

Prostitution of any sort guarantees child sex trafficking, you ******* asshole.

 

[JoeB131]

You are misinterpreting what "due process rights" means. It does not mean every illegal gets a hearing before a judge. It means ICE or CBP listens to their story and makes an immediate determination, as they did under Clinton for 12,000,000 deportations.

Except that no such thing happened. Only half a million were "deported". Turned away at the border is not a separation.

I agree than most claims of "fleeing oppression" are bogus. Chinese can't leave unless the government approves, those folks are most likely going to harm the US one way or another, same with Russians. Clinton deported 12,000,000. Trump should be allowed to do the same.

Not going to happen, guy. At most, the government can deport about half a million a year. That's all they really have the logistics for.

 

[munkle]

The MSM revealed themselves when they rabidly attacked The Sound of Freedom which should have been a feel-good movie for everyone. What is controversial about saving children? The attackers are the customers. The people arguing against Homan here too. If it was saving lost kittens it would be a feel good thread.