High Schools no longer teach history...

[mgh80]

Difference Between Social Studies and History

Social Studies=the overall department. history=the class.

US History and US Government are both social study classes...however they're obviously different and one isn't a history class.

 

[baileyn45]

History is taught in high school. Where the term 'Social Studies' is used, it's the same thing.

It's funny, when I was in high school(early 70s) "social studies" was a joke of a class. Honestly I can't remember anything about what they were trying to teach. I think it was supposed to be something about govt and citizenship. The only thing I remember about the class was sitting right in front of the teachers desk when one day he dropped his pen, bent over to pick it up and a little pot pipe fell out of his shirt pocket. He was a great guy, not wrapped real tight but a great guy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

I've never heard of that. My son is in high school and there are 2 semesters of American history and world history that are mandatory. There is also a course on African American history and one on Native American history. He is livid there are only 2 years of Spanish and he does not feel that this is adequate for a foreign language. He also is not pleased there are only 2 languages to choose from here.

Heck, his freshman year he was in Mock Trial, participated in writing legislation, helped design and build a robot and was asked to help write the curriculum and teach a group of elementary students robotics.

So, for all the things that are said about public schools...it seems to be going pretty well.

Perhaps it's a state issue?

I believe it's even more mixed than a state issue. The suburb I grew up in has phenomenal schools. Literally cross one street and you are in Cleveland and they are horrid. It's been that way for 50 years and no matter what has been tried it never changes. I sometimes think part of it is discipline oriented. The suburban school has always been no nonsense, when I was there we had almost 4000 students and damned if it wasn't impossible to cut class without getting busted. It's not as big now but I'm told it's just as strict.

One thing the suburban school does that seems to have gone away at many others schools is a strong vocational program, everything from auto mechanics, business program and a pre-premed program. Perhaps that catches the attention of students that aren't interested in pursuing a purely scholastic future. At this time one of the foreign language offered is Chinese, I'm not sure which, I think I remember Mandarin. When I was there my brother learned Russian.

I do have to say that while it's not a particularly wealthy town it is densely populated and has quite high taxes. I have to give them credit though the city services are excellent.

No, you're pretty much wrong on all accounts.

Oregon has one of the highest rates in the country, and some of the worst performing schools. The schools that rake in the most bucks, have the worst performance.

I was looking at schools yesterday in Oregon. One had history on the curriculum. The same school had actual "English". That was the only school that had those subjects offered.

“High Schools no longer teach history...”

As already correctly noted: this is a ridiculous lie.

Schools aren’t teaching the hateful, bigoted revisionist history popular with you and most others on the right.

 

[regent]

What's the difference Gym and PE?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

Every time you come up with another these outlandish lies, you get caught. You're like trump in that you always out yourself.

Do you believe that no one else has attended school? Or has children in school?

Yes, English and history is still taught and no, you did not "pull your kids out of school" BEFORE you found a charter school.

And finally, you RWNJs voted to put three communists in the WH so stop with that stupid reference. Thanks.


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[OnePercenter]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

Why don't you home 'skol' your own brand of ignorance?

 

[Disir]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

I've never heard of that. My son is in high school and there are 2 semesters of American history and world history that are mandatory. There is also a course on African American history and one on Native American history. He is livid there are only 2 years of Spanish and he does not feel that this is adequate for a foreign language. He also is not pleased there are only 2 languages to choose from here.

Heck, his freshman year he was in Mock Trial, participated in writing legislation, helped design and build a robot and was asked to help write the curriculum and teach a group of elementary students robotics.

So, for all the things that are said about public schools...it seems to be going pretty well.

Perhaps it's a state issue?

I believe it's even more mixed than a state issue. The suburb I grew up in has phenomenal schools. Literally cross one street and you are in Cleveland and they are horrid. It's been that way for 50 years and no matter what has been tried it never changes. I sometimes think part of it is discipline oriented. The suburban school has always been no nonsense, when I was there we had almost 4000 students and damned if it wasn't impossible to cut class without getting busted. It's not as big now but I'm told it's just as strict.

One thing the suburban school does that seems to have gone away at many others schools is a strong vocational program, everything from auto mechanics, business program and a pre-premed program. Perhaps that catches the attention of students that aren't interested in pursuing a purely scholastic future. At this time one of the foreign language offered is Chinese, I'm not sure which, I think I remember Mandarin. When I was there my brother learned Russian.

I do have to say that while it's not a particularly wealthy town it is densely populated and has quite high taxes. I have to give them credit though the city services are excellent.

I agree to an extent. I think if you live in an area with gangs and drugs then it is going to show up in the schools. Not that wealthier neighborhoods don't have drug problems-they do. You just won't find syringes on the elementary school playgrounds. Zero tolerance policies do not work.

The number one education killer is the number of different competing agendas by adults. We know what works but can't get it into the schools.

There are a few schools out here that teach Mandarin. Just not here. It makes zero sense not to have a variety of foreign languages taught in schools: Russian, Arabic, Mandarin. The US would not need interpreters from other countries if they had people in the US that spoke these languages fluently.

The name of the game in the last twenty years is to call some schools vo-tech but they serve no purpose and offer no solid programs. If you are paying money to become a line cook then you have a problem.

 

[Marion Morrison]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

I've never heard of that. My son is in high school and there are 2 semesters of American history and world history that are mandatory. There is also a course on African American history and one on Native American history. He is livid there are only 2 years of Spanish and he does not feel that this is adequate for a foreign language. He also is not pleased there are only 2 languages to choose from here.

Heck, his freshman year he was in Mock Trial, participated in writing legislation, helped design and build a robot and was asked to help write the curriculum and teach a group of elementary students robotics.

So, for all the things that are said about public schools...it seems to be going pretty well.

Perhaps it's a state issue?

It varies from state to state.

Not all states have schools that are indoctrination centers, yet some clearly do.

I did a lot of polling of the youngers when I heard about that "safe space" thing.

California..Utah, even. They learned that. Washington, I'm sure, too.

 

[Disir]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

I've never heard of that. My son is in high school and there are 2 semesters of American history and world history that are mandatory. There is also a course on African American history and one on Native American history. He is livid there are only 2 years of Spanish and he does not feel that this is adequate for a foreign language. He also is not pleased there are only 2 languages to choose from here.

Heck, his freshman year he was in Mock Trial, participated in writing legislation, helped design and build a robot and was asked to help write the curriculum and teach a group of elementary students robotics.

So, for all the things that are said about public schools...it seems to be going pretty well.

Perhaps it's a state issue?

It varies from state to state.

Not all states have schools that are indoctrination centers, yet some clearly do.

I did a lot of polling of the youngers when I heard about that "safe space" thing.

California..Utah, even. They learned that. Washington, I'm sure, too.

It's the glorious state and local rights thang at work. The call for "safe spaces" and crap has been taking place, by and large, at the "elite" universities.

 

[MisterBeale]

I was disturbed when I came a across a video recently. A kid that was class President and Valedictorian had his graduation speech censored by the administration.

What really struck me as odd, was not that his speech was censored, but that the school didn't have a grade scale? WTF?

How did they determine who would be Valedictorian?

 

[mgh80]

What's the difference Gym and PE?

Gym is the building, PE is the department.

But really PE also includes all PE classes, such as health/nutrition.

 

[fncceo]

I'm offended that I didn't learn about Polish king Jan III Sobieski saving Europe at the Battle of Vienna, but had to sit through pages of "Russian Kings, and Queens"

I'm offended that I didn't learn about Polish generals Kosciuszko, and Pulaski, but learned that Black Crispus Attucks, was the first killed in the American Revolutionary War.

Admit it, you made those names up. Didn't you?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Schools have become Orwellian indoctrination centers.

My wife and I enjoy talking to young people. As a history nut, I like to ask them what they are learning from their history lessons. About half the time, all I get for an answer is a blank stare. Other times, the high school kids tell me they don't have history classes--just social studies.

"You can't make socialists out of individualists. Children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society, which is coming, where everyone is interdependent."

"The battle for mankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom . The classroom must and will become the arena of conflict between the old and the new . the rotting corpse of Christianity and the new faith of humanism."

--John Dewey, "the father of modern education,"

Why Our Schools Teach Socialism -- September 2001 Education Reporter

Okay, well look at the adult populace we've got now. They were ignorant enough to put Donald Trump in the WH and look at the fine minds that post here. A change in the curriculum was in order.

I luv ya oldlady- but if you only have a choice between a giant cheeto and a corrupt, evil, painsuit wearing Bulldyke then we are bound to get bad results.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I'm offended that I didn't learn about Polish king Jan III Sobieski saving Europe at the Battle of Vienna, but had to sit through pages of "Russian Kings, and Queens"

I'm offended that I didn't learn about Polish generals Kosciuszko, and Pulaski, but learned that Black Crispus Attucks, was the first killed in the American Revolutionary War.

Admit it, you made those names up. Didn't you?

Pulaski?


I have no idea what or who he is but anyone from Chicago can tell you where is Pulaski road

.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's all "social studies" and "Language Arts" instead of "English" and "History".

You get one guess as to why....

That's right, nationalized, state-funded *education*. The best way in the world to insure the spread of communism and collective ignorance.

I pulled my children out of traditional public education this year. Now I'm trying to find a decent charter school for them. It's been a daunting task. I finally found one charter school that does teach high school English in ADDITION TO Language Arts...presumably "Language Arts" is a requirement...

But still no history.

And they rarely use the term "education" in their mission statements. All the mission statements are about "citizenship" and "community" and "work force". Fucking creepy.

I graduated High School over 40 years ago and we called it Social Studies

Doesn't mean we didn't learn history but that we had to look at history in terms of it's relevance to the society at the time and how it impacted the society of today

We did have "English" but never actually learned English. Most of us already spoke it

That's what it was in your time? The last and only social studies I remember taking was in 7th and 8th grade ..( around the same 40 years ago) it had mostly just US history in it ..I don't remember any social shit as it pertains today...


In High school I forgot what was required but I do remember taking 3 history courses as electives my senior year.

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[Disir]

I'm offended that I didn't learn about Polish king Jan III Sobieski saving Europe at the Battle of Vienna, but had to sit through pages of "Russian Kings, and Queens"

I'm offended that I didn't learn about Polish generals Kosciuszko, and Pulaski, but learned that Black Crispus Attucks, was the first killed in the American Revolutionary War.

Admit it, you made those names up. Didn't you?

Pulaski?


I have no idea what or who he is but anyone from Chicago can tell you where is Pulaski road




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Casimir Pulaski. Revolutionary War.

 

[guyfawkestruepirate]

Everyone should know that the school system doesn't teach people jack shit they don't teach you the truth they only teach you lies and propaganda.

 

[Iceweasel]

Everyone should know that the school system doesn't teach people jack shit they don't teach you the truth they only teach you lies and propaganda.

Just wait until you get to high school. It will be better.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Did they ever teach history?

Wasn't it really just a matter of whose self serving propaganda?

psik

 

[guyfawkestruepirate]

Everyone should know that the school system doesn't teach people jack shit they don't teach you the truth they only teach you lies and propaganda.

Just wait until you get to high school. It will be better.

That post was truly awful that it makes me laugh.