Ronald Bernard - High Finance - Shocking Revelations - Dutch - transcript
[The Ronald Bernard testimony]
The Netherlands are part of a large global financial system in which you work through exchange market if you want to do official transactions and many banks who do the currency exchange.
Get certain assignments from clients, which they can't get away with easily.
Then the need arises for people like me who were the straw men where big money flows are involved.
We used certain financial constructions, international legislation, to move the money in such a way making everything 'ok'.
So all supervisors, regulatory bodies that are in place world wide, because they are.
That no one wakes up seeing what is going on.
Like a year or two ago, with the scandal around Panama.
-The Panama papers.
Yes.
Yes then...
-Tax Evasion?-
I think, well that was about avoiding taxes, tax evasion is when you break all the rules. This had to do with avoiding.
But when you see what happened there, I'm like "Guys, that is old news! And who are you boring with that?"
Because it peanuts and hardly relevant.
However, for the common people, that is great news, but it is not anything big.
But it does show, there is something very wrong in this world.
For example, there are people in the Netherlands, with certain positions, who have bank accounts in Panama, with legislations that allows them not to pay taxes in the Netherlands, which is still completely legal.
Constructions like that were part of my job, when we had to change currency we had changes, the first boycotts in Iraq early 90s, when there was a boycott in Iraq because of the war that started there.
And we were confronted with what we called 'Iraqi-dollar.'
Iraqi dollars, which were actually American dollars.
The American dollar has a direct relation to the oil prices which made it a world trading currency backed up by oil.
As long as that connection is in place the dollar has value.
Officially, the Iraqi people weren't allowed to sell their oil due to the boycott.
In theory, that is because never before there was such a big business in oil, with discounts in this case because officially it wasn't allowed, so with discounts it still crossed the borders.
These dollars, because the energy was always paid in dollars, so the Iraqi-dollars had to go somewhere.
You couldn't just take them to the desk at the bank because of all the regulations and checks did provide a certain protection because money laundering and criminality wasn't anything new back then, now we call it terrorism but that was then also the case.
So then you need people to take the heat.
As straw men you got invited to a bank in for example Germany with basements full of trucks filled with money.
Wow!
And then you think 'sure trucks, transports, a busy company.'
'Come with me', then they show you they are all filled to maximum capacity with dollars and they tell you 'we need to get rid of all this cash.'
So change them for pounds, German Marks, this, that, in such way and it needs to go there and there.
Are we now talking about money laundering? Or...
Well, processing cash...
Processing cash in such a way that we can legally reintroduce it into the money circuit.
So that was your task?
That was an assignment my colleagues and I got.
-Okay.
You are never alone on an assignment because you can not do this on your own.
It is not possible.
We all know Scrooge McDuck scooping money with his shovel, well we literally had to do that over there.
It was impossible to process all at once.
So then you need to find a way. Cash used to be the predominant way of paying whereas nowadays most is digital. But you tried to find a way to process the cash.
How do you reintroduce the cash into the circuit so Iraq can deal in its oil without being hampered.
Because they are the ones that own the money.
Iraq doesn't want to... look, you mentioned money laundering, but what it was about the boycott. Iraq had to stick to the rules.
And by... you know everything you want to know about the world, you can know by following the money.
That is the bottom line, everyone can say 'blah blah blah', but make sure you follow the money then you'll find the truth.
Same thing goes for that situation. So the only thing Iraq and their buying partners wanted was to remain free of any accusations.
Because the partners who bought it were the ones placing the boycott in the first place but they are actually all friends on the same side.
Everybody thinks there are opposites like good and bad guys in the world but on the higher levels it is just a game and they are all working together.
However, they do have to stick to the rules and regulations they themselves have created to keep the rest of society suppressed and make sure that it will not be too crowded at the top.
So you have to play by your own rules.
So what is going on there is to make sure that nobody can trace you apart from the elite themselves, nobody in lower ranks can find out what really happened.
Compartmentalized, that's how we call it.
-Yes.
Everyone knows only his own little piece.
Only the elite knows what is happening.
Yes, but because we were doing the dirty work, we had to know a lot.
Because we couldn't afford to make any mistakes.
How high in the pyramid did you get?
Were you close to the top of the pyramid?
Well, we were communicating with them.
-Okay.
My ego would have loved it when I got to this position of belonging to the top itself.
Nowadays we still talk about 8000-8500 people in the world who run the entire world.
It would have been amazing to get into such a position back then.
All right, but if we say the top knows 100%, can you estimate how much you knew and understood of what happened?
In my work, I had to know a 100% of what was going on.
There was no other way because of the interests of the people involved were huge.
Especially for the top.
-Exactly.
If I wouldn't know all the details I would end up making mistakes which would cause a spin-off, because those mistakes would be detected.
Then the people that don't know anything about it, would interfere.
We are talking about having nerves of steel to function at this level.
So did you have nerves of steel?
-Yes, it worked just 'fine.'
The freezer worked very well for you...
-Yes, I played at the highest level for about 5 years.
And then it was totally over, out and done with.
That was a very intense moment for me.
Yes.
-That happened suddenly or was there a reason...?
-Well, no, the thing is, I gave a small example of what was involved.
So in this case currency exchange, dollar to something else, deposited in a safe manner and managing assets well, so it could grow to rate of return, leading to re-investments with the money.
The level I played at in those 5 years, and that didn't happen overnight, you need to earn your place. I am skilled at connecting the dots, information in order to achieve a full picture of all the things involved that need to be taken into account within the playing field, which is a very detailed process.
You stand out when you are gifted in this.
This is the reason I was trusted with the full 100% of the information where it concerned my jobs so I didn't know about everything they knew but everything that I needed to know regarding the case I was working with colleagues.
I was often put in the leading role, because I kept a good overview of the situation.
You're good at making quick switches.
Yes, and I was good at innovative thinking to solve the problem.
I had fun creating solutions in such a way to always stay ahead and outsmart them, staying within the rules of the game but playing around with them to make everything match-up. I loved that game.
However, on the other hand you had a great amount of responsibility and you learned more and more about the real world.
Since through the financial world you learn all of the actual truth.
So you say 'all' in what regard?
Well your clients give you glimpses of how the world really works.
In hindsight, I still didn't know everything, but I did know a lot.
Because my clients were banks who didn't want blood on their hands.
But within those banks there always is a number of people who know damn well what is going on.
So, like, 1% within a bank knows the truth of the matter regarding the happenings within the world which is not surprising considering they are involved in the flows of money. Those are your clients, you also have governments to deal with, multinationals. You have to deal with secret services and what they now call terrorist organizations.
You get all of the groups that involved with the big money as clients.
Then you start seeing the connections, so they might be compartmentalized as you just mentioned, regarding knowledge.
But because I am in the middle I see how they relate to another; you see the money coming from this place, then going to that place etc.
You keep gaining information and thereby overview of what is really going on.
So do you have to serve and keep all of those groups happy including terrorist organizations. You were trying to keep everybody happy?
Yes.
Dear God!
-Yes.
That was my job.
Keeping all the balls in the air.
Yes indeed, so one of the things that I found out, I did not know that before but now I do is about secret services; you think they are there to serve and protect a people, country etc. But they actually turn out to be criminal organizations to be more precise. The system is heavily so.
We are talking about financial wars, creating wars, so basically creating a lot of misery in this world, so lots of conflict.
And then I think to myself, if only people knew what the world is really like. Secret services will stop at nothing. Nothing.
But they also have their flows of money because if they are trading in drugs or weapons or, for that matter people, all that money has to go somewhere. Everything has to be financed. You say 'if' but you could confirm thet are doing this?
All of them. All of them.
-Yes.
So the entire world as we think we know it is just an illusion we believe in.
[The Ronald Bernard testimony part 2]
