Here is Trump's Economic Plan

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1. Grow the economy to allow for a balanced budget in 3-4 years. This will be accomplished by increased revenues (taxes and tariffs), reduced demand on government services, and cost cutting measures. These must occur in sequence to be politically possible.

2. At that point, freeze and restructure the national debt. It doesn't matter if the amount is $35 trillion or $40 trillion. This may be done in any number of ways, and a balanced budget will minimize the need for and effect on new borrowing. Besides, US Notes will still be the world's safest investment.

I can go into greater detail if anyone has pertinent questions or comments.
 
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1. Grow the economy to allow for a balanced budget in 3-4 years. This will be accomplished by increased revenues (taxes and tariffs), reduced demand on government services, and cost cutting measures. These must occur in sequence to be politically possible.

2. At that point, freeze and restructure the national debt. It doesn't matter if the amount is $35 trillion or $40 trillion. This may be done in any number of ways, and a balanced budget will minimize the need for and effect on new borrowing. Besides, US Notes will still be the world's safest investment.

I can go into greater detail if anyone has pertinent questions or comments.
1. NOT possible with the Big Beautiful Bill. Don't kid yourself.
2. We should be doing this NOW. STFU with this 3-4 year bullshit. This was our chance. I didn't like DOGE but if it was going to go towards the debt, I was willing to endure. I was also hoping tariffs would go to the debt. If we have to pay, let it go to something we all care about. The debt. Well, at least we care when a Democrat is in charge. When a Republican is in charge, suddenly the debt is not an imminent issue. What was Trump saying about the debt last year? He was making a big deal out of it. Not now.

You can go into all the details you want. We're supposed to fall for your bullshit again? Elon is right.

Elon Musk Goes To War Against Big Beautiful Bill: 'KILL the BILL'​

Musk has gone beyond merely calling the bill a "disgusting abomination" and signaled he will actively undermine it.
 
NOT possible with the Big Beautiful Bill. Don't kid yourself
NOT extending the current tax rates will throw us into a recession and elect a Democrat Congress. Which is what you want.
 
NOT extending the current tax rates will throw us into a recession and elect a Democrat Congress. Which is what you want.
Would not extending the current tax rates really send us into a recession? I don't believe that.

Then why did they make them expire? So they can use it as a campaign issue. Democrats will raise your taxes. No. We will just let Trump's tax breaks expire.

I never even noticed my Trump tax cuts. The first year I had to pay. My tax guy said it's because I didn't pay as much taxes that year. NOT buying it.
 
LOL....It's not lost upon me that the only hope the dems have is determined by the gop congress.

The gop congress needs to be reminded of that too.
Isn't that always the way? The Democrats in charge didn't do enough to get re elected so Republicans won.

What bothers me is that Democrats can do a great job and you guys will say they didn't. And a Republican can suck and lie us into a war and you re-elect that prick. Cause the Great Recession and you say he didn't. Then you vote for John McCain.

Why didn't you vote for Gore? I mean after 8 great years of Clinton, why not go with Gore??? Because you could see yourself drinking a beer with Bush not Gore? Do you see how stupid Republican voters are now?

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.
 
Isn't that always the way? The Democrats in charge didn't do enough to get re elected so Republicans won.

What bothers me is that Democrats can do a great job and you guys will say they didn't. And a Republican can suck and lie us into a war and you re-elect that prick. Cause the Great Recession and you say he didn't. Then you vote for John McCain.

Why didn't you vote for Gore? I mean after 8 great years of Clinton, why not go with Gore??? Because you could see yourself drinking a beer with Bush not Gore? Do you see how stupid Republican voters are now?

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.
I was OK with Bubba till he started banning guns.
 
1. Grow the economy to allow for a balanced budget in 3-4 years. This will be accomplished by increased revenues (taxes and tariffs), reduced demand on government services, and cost cutting measures. These must occur in sequence to be politically possible.

2. At that point, freeze and restructure the national debt. It doesn't matter if the amount is $35 trillion or $40 trillion. This may be done in any number of ways, and a balanced budget will minimize the need for and effect on new borrowing. Besides, US Notes will still be the world's safest investment.

I can go into greater detail if anyone has pertinent questions or comments.
Delusional, fantasy land, "sell the sizzle".

What increased revenues? The CBO scores the big beautiful bill at increasing the deficit by 2.4 trillion dollars over the next decade. Do you really think tariffs are going to make up that difference? And besides, who pays for those tariffs. Are you so delusional that you think that other countries will eat those tariffs. Come on, a basic Economics course is available, for free, online, from numerous sources.

And those cost cuts, the vast majority of them are simply transferring responsibilities to the states. It is robbing Peter to pay Paul, and every single state in the Union has a regressive tax structure. Sure, some states will refuse to provide the funding, which is even worse. Then the weakest members of our society are going to shoulder the burden. What to see what is going to happen, in terms of real wages, just look at what happened in the first Trump administration.

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You see that peak, that was right before Trump took office. I mean it is going to be like De Ja Vue all over again. Hell, look at the spreadsheet.

Increasing deficits, declining real wages, come on, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. At this point, for the Trump supporter, it is shame on them. Fools.

GDP growth, Trump came into office the first time claiming he was going to get GDP growth to 4%, he never got to 3%, and COVID hammered him with a 2.21% decrease in GDP growth. A negative GDP growth has only happened six times in the last 60 plus years.


Look for it to happen again, probably a couple of times during Trump's tenure.

The man is a con artist, and honestly, not that fucking good. The problem is idiots that support him, a right wing media that is absolutely comical to witness in its inaccuracies, misstatements, and utter fabrications. Trump completely fails the number one rule of business, as I have mentioned in other threads. The number one rule in business is to under promise and over deliver. You do that, success is automatic. Trump consistently over promises and under delivers, that is not going to change.

Let me give you an example of a good working economic proposal, the ACA. What you Trump idiots call "Obamacare". From an economic standpoint, the ACA did more to induce GDP growth than all of Trump's actions in his first term combined. Matter of fact, without the ACA, Trump's entire first administration would have saddled us with negative GDP growth EVERY YEAR.

There are many reasons that the ACA generated increased GDP growth, I will just provide one. The elimination of the doughnut hole in Medicare Advantage. And the funny thing, it didn't cost the government a damn thing. Millions of seniors faced exorbitant prescription prices in the doughnut hole. That money went straight to the drug manufacturers, and flowed to stockholders. Stock buybacks, dividends. But those same manufacturers financed the elimination of the doughnut hole. That was millions, probably billions of dollars that went from those drug manufactures to seniors on Medicare. They spent that money, on vacations, on home upgrades, on cars, and most importantly, on their grand kids. That drove the economy. What Trump is doing is the exact opposite. He is taking money from the salt of the earth and distributing to the robber barons, to people that are all about extracting wealth, not creating it. Rent seekers, and sorry to go over your head, but until you can understand the concept of rent seeking you are not qualified to even post a return.
 
1. Grow the economy to allow for a balanced budget in 3-4 years. This will be accomplished by increased revenues (taxes and tariffs), reduced demand on government services, and cost cutting measures. These must occur in sequence to be politically possible.

2. At that point, freeze and restructure the national debt. It doesn't matter if the amount is $35 trillion or $40 trillion. This may be done in any number of ways, and a balanced budget will minimize the need for and effect on new borrowing. Besides, US Notes will still be the world's safest investment.

I can go into greater detail if anyone has pertinent questions or comments.

A flaming of ReNaziKlan bullshit.
 
1. Grow the economy to allow for a balanced budget in 3-4 years. This will be accomplished by increased revenues (taxes and tariffs), reduced demand on government services, and cost cutting measures. These must occur in sequence to be politically possible.

2. At that point, freeze and restructure the national debt. It doesn't matter if the amount is $35 trillion or $40 trillion. This may be done in any number of ways, and a balanced budget will minimize the need for and effect on new borrowing. Besides, US Notes will still be the world's safest investment.

I can go into greater detail if anyone has pertinent questions or comments.

Is this his plan?

I thought his plan was
1) wake up with some weird idea in his head
2) ask some yes person about it
3) after two minutes of listening to a yes person, implementing such idea, which will no doubt benefit rich people.
 
Delusional, fantasy land, "sell the sizzle".

What increased revenues? The CBO scores the big beautiful bill at increasing the deficit by 2.4 trillion dollars over the next decade. Do you really think tariffs are going to make up that difference? And besides, who pays for those tariffs. Are you so delusional that you think that other countries will eat those tariffs. Come on, a basic Economics course is available, for free, online, from numerous sources.

And those cost cuts, the vast majority of them are simply transferring responsibilities to the states. It is robbing Peter to pay Paul, and every single state in the Union has a regressive tax structure. Sure, some states will refuse to provide the funding, which is even worse. Then the weakest members of our society are going to shoulder the burden. What to see what is going to happen, in terms of real wages, just look at what happened in the first Trump administration.

latest_numbers_CES0500000013_2015_2025_all_period_M04_pct_12mths.gif

You see that peak, that was right before Trump took office. I mean it is going to be like De Ja Vue all over again. Hell, look at the spreadsheet.

Increasing deficits, declining real wages, come on, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. At this point, for the Trump supporter, it is shame on them. Fools.

GDP growth, Trump came into office the first time claiming he was going to get GDP growth to 4%, he never got to 3%, and COVID hammered him with a 2.21% decrease in GDP growth. A negative GDP growth has only happened six times in the last 60 plus years.


Look for it to happen again, probably a couple of times during Trump's tenure.

The man is a con artist, and honestly, not that fucking good. The problem is idiots that support him, a right wing media that is absolutely comical to witness in its inaccuracies, misstatements, and utter fabrications. Trump completely fails the number one rule of business, as I have mentioned in other threads. The number one rule in business is to under promise and over deliver. You do that, success is automatic. Trump consistently over promises and under delivers, that is not going to change.

Let me give you an example of a good working economic proposal, the ACA. What you Trump idiots call "Obamacare". From an economic standpoint, the ACA did more to induce GDP growth than all of Trump's actions in his first term combined. Matter of fact, without the ACA, Trump's entire first administration would have saddled us with negative GDP growth EVERY YEAR.

There are many reasons that the ACA generated increased GDP growth, I will just provide one. The elimination of the doughnut hole in Medicare Advantage. And the funny thing, it didn't cost the government a damn thing. Millions of seniors faced exorbitant prescription prices in the doughnut hole. That money went straight to the drug manufacturers, and flowed to stockholders. Stock buybacks, dividends. But those same manufacturers financed the elimination of the doughnut hole. That was millions, probably billions of dollars that went from those drug manufactures to seniors on Medicare. They spent that money, on vacations, on home upgrades, on cars, and most importantly, on their grand kids. That drove the economy. What Trump is doing is the exact opposite. He is taking money from the salt of the earth and distributing to the robber barons, to people that are all about extracting wealth, not creating it. Rent seekers, and sorry to go over your head, but until you can understand the concept of rent seeking you are not qualified to even post a return.
Is this your version of a Cory Booker filibuster?
 
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