Hello! Is Anyone Down There?

[Independent thinker]

Scroll down a little in the following link from RCP's betting averages to look at the betting line graph. Harris has been dropping like a rock. On September 22 Harris was ahead in the betting line

52.9 to Trump's 45.6

but today it is Trump

57.7 to Harris's 41.3.

She is falling down the hole so fast she will soon be out of sight.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

 

[candycorn]

Scroll down a little in the following link from RCP's betting averages to look at the betting line graph. Harris has been dropping like a rock. On September 22 Harris was ahead in the betting line

52.9 to Trump's 45.6

but today it is Trump

57.7 to Harris's 41.3.

She is falling down the hole so fast she will soon be out of sight.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

So how much are you betting on Trump winning...it’s a sure thing, right?

 

[MisterBeale]

Scroll down a little in the following link from RCP's betting averages to look at the betting line graph. Harris has been dropping like a rock. On September 22 Harris was ahead in the betting line

52.9 to Trump's 45.6

but today it is Trump

57.7 to Harris's 41.3.

She is falling down the hole so fast she will soon be out of sight.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

What you say is true.

It also appears, whenever someone takes a pot shot at Trump, he gets a boost.

 

[Independent thinker]

So how much are you betting on Trump winning...it’s a sure thing, right?

I am big on trends and right now, just 3 weeks before the election, Harris is down by 16 points and hasn't hit rock bottom yet. The following article states that:

In the 11 presidential elections since 1980, the only race where the winning candidate had worse odds than the losing candidate was in 2016, where both the betting markets and conventional polling failed to predict a Trump win.

How accurate are betting odds at predicting elections?

Betting odds can influence people's expectations about the result of the 2024 election, but how accurate have they been in the past?

www.newsweek.com

Now you know why Obama is out there scolding young black men about not wanting to go out and vote for a woman.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But this is not a good indicator. Since bettors.move those lines. And bettors are not rational.

 

[Independent thinker]

What you say is true.

It also appears, whenever someone takes a pot shot at Trump, he gets a boost.

And here is something else:

In the 11 presidential elections since 1980, the only race where the winning candidate had worse odds than the losing candidate was in 2016, where both the betting markets and conventional polling failed to predict a Trump win.

How accurate are betting odds at predicting elections?

Betting odds can influence people's expectations about the result of the 2024 election, but how accurate have they been in the past?

www.newsweek.com

 

[Independent thinker]

But this is not a good indicator. Since bettors.move those lines. And bettors are not rational.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:

In the 11 presidential elections since 1980, the only race where the winning candidate had worse odds than the losing candidate was in 2016, where both the betting markets and conventional polling failed to predict a Trump win.

How accurate are betting odds at predicting elections?

Betting odds can influence people's expectations about the result of the 2024 election, but how accurate have they been in the past?

www.newsweek.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:

In the 11 presidential elections since 1980, the only race where the winning candidate had worse odds than the losing candidate was in 2016, where both the betting markets and conventional polling failed to predict a Trump win.

How accurate are betting odds at predicting elections?

Betting odds can influence people's expectations about the result of the 2024 election, but how accurate have they been in the past?

www.newsweek.com

*on election day, after the bet lines settle.

You're not making the great point you think.you are making.

 

[marvin martian]

So how much are you betting on Trump winning...it’s a sure thing, right?

If something is a "sure thing" you can't win money betting on it, dipshit.

But the betting markets are the most accurate poll. When people put down money, they do so without political prejudice.

 

[Independent thinker]

*on election day, after the bet lines settle.

You're not making the great point you think.you are making.

LOL. Oh yes I am. You're just a fact denier.

 

[g5000]

Scroll down a little in the following link from RCP's betting averages to look at the betting line graph. Harris has been dropping like a rock. On September 22 Harris was ahead in the betting line

52.9 to Trump's 45.6

but today it is Trump

57.7 to Harris's 41.3.

She is falling down the hole so fast she will soon be out of sight.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Those very same betting sites had Trump beating Harris in the upcoming debate.

What special kind of retard looks to gambling sites for information about who is going to win?

A lot of Trumptards bet on Trump's DJT stock, too. Look at them crying now.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

LOL. Oh yes I am. You're just a fact denier.

No, you aren't, and clearly don't understand how betting lines move.

Like yesterday, when Trump's embarrassing performance at Bloomberg caused a DJT sell off. Bettors aren't rational. It takes time for betting lines to settle in.

So no, you tugged one off for nothing.

 

[Independent thinker]

Those very same betting sites had Trump beating Harris in the upcoming debate.

What special kind of retard looks to gambling sites for information about who is going to win?

A lot of Trumptards bet on Trump's DJT stock, too. Look at them crying now.

In the 11 presidential elections since 1980, the only race where the winning candidate had worse odds than the losing candidate was in 2016, where both the betting markets and conventional polling failed to predict a Trump win.

How accurate are betting odds at predicting elections?

Betting odds can influence people's expectations about the result of the 2024 election, but how accurate have they been in the past?

www.newsweek.com

 

[Independent thinker]

No, you aren't, and clearly don't understand how betting lines move.

Like yesterday, when Trump's embarrassing performance at Bloomberg caused a DJT sell off. Bettors aren't rational. It takes time for betting lines to settle in.

So no, you tugged one off for nothing.

Oh, I know how they move. That's the reason for this thread. Harris is moving right now, falling like a rock, just before election day.

 

[MisterBeale]

*on election day, after the bet lines settle.

You're not making the great point you think.you are making.

From the Newsweek link;

". . . In the 11 presidential elections since 1980, the only race where the winning candidate had worse odds than the losing candidate was in 2016, where both the betting markets and conventional polling failed to predict a Trump win."

And the establishment underestimated his support in 2020 as well. It should not have even been close there as well. Biden should have blown Trump out, but he did not.


". . . Public opinion polls ahead of the 2020 election were the most inaccurate in a generation, according to Josh Clinton, Abby and Jon Winkelried Chair and professor of political science, who recently served as chair of a special task force convened by the American Association for Public Opinion Research specifically to evaluate polling. The task force found that polling during the two weeks before the election overstated support for then-Democratic nominee Joe Biden by 3.9 percentage points, which was the largest polling error since 1980 when support for Democratic nominee Jimmy Carter was overestimated by 6 percentage points. The presidential election between Biden, the eventual winner, and incumbent president Donald Trump was much closer than polling had indicated. A report detailing the task force’s discoveries and conclusions is here.. . . "

Pre-election polls in 2020 had the largest errors in 40 years​

Pre-election polls in 2020 had the largest errors in 40 years

Public opinion polls ahead of the 2020 election were the most inaccurate in a generation, according to Josh Clinton, Abby and Jon Winkelried Chair and professor of political science, who recently served as chair of a special task force convened by the American Association for Public Opinion...

news.vanderbilt.edu

The fact is, as a group, populist conservatives/MAGA does not trust establishment organizations, so they generally refuse to give them any information. The folks that are least likely to stay on with the phone pollers or answer surveys are MAGA folks. It is very likely, Kamala and the DNC are in real trouble right now.



This is a green supporter/ Dem Socialist. . .and even she is smart enough, and honest enough, to acknowledge the situation.

Trump PASSES Kamala In Michigan​

Oct 11, 2024

 

[Magnus]

Scroll down a little in the following link from RCP's betting averages to look at the betting line graph. Harris has been dropping like a rock. On September 22 Harris was ahead in the betting line

52.9 to Trump's 45.6

but today it is Trump

57.7 to Harris's 41.3.

She is falling down the hole so fast she will soon be out of sight.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

ABC News – Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

ABC News is your trusted source on political news stories and videos. Get the latest coverage and analysis on everything from the Trump presidency, Senate, House and Supreme Court.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[Independent thinker]

ABC News – Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

ABC News is your trusted source on political news stories and videos. Get the latest coverage and analysis on everything from the Trump presidency, Senate, House and Supreme Court.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

538 is owned by lefty ABC. The betting odds companies are unbiased.

 

[Magnus]

538 is owned by lefty ABC. The betting odds companies are unbiased.

LOL Typical retard. If the polling goes against you, it must be biased. Thanks for being predictable.

 

[Independent thinker]

LOL Typical retard. If the polling goes against you, it must be biased. Thanks for being predictable.

Maybe you can post a link of the betting agencies being biased.

 

[Magnus]

Maybe you can post a link of the betting agencies being biased.

Learn to read, retard. Is that what I wrote?