Hasan Supports The Taliban

[Coyote]

Bloodrock44, Ropey, reabhloideach, Coyote, et al,

Let's talk technical for a moment and nip something in the bud.

His parents immigrated from Palestine. He happened to be born here. In my opinion he is about as American as Yasser Arafat.

(COMMENT)

There is no magic bullet, super test, tool or profile that we can use to determine the loyalty, integrity and character of a person relative to identifying them as a potential threat as a hostile insurgent, espionage operative, saboteur, terrorist, or asymmetric fighter. Being a Palestinian-American is no more of a risk than an Italian-American or German-American or any other "X" Brand-American.

There is about a million men & women in the Army Uniform (Active Duty, Guard & Reserve). There are additionally a huge number of contractors, researchers, spot specialists, and other civilians of all sorts that have a connection to the service. We simply do not have the research and data points to detect, exploit and/or neutralize these risks. It takes a lot of feet on the ground pounding the pavement.

But in regards to MAJ Nidal Malik Hasan, he's like any other American in uniform. There could be a hundred like him --- or --- he could be one of a kind. We simply don't know.
The Army Counterintelligence Program isn't that strong.

Most Respectfully,
R

Thank you Rocco, for a stunning post

 

[Coyote]

Please take personal issues to the FLAME ZONE.

 

[Bloodrock44]

He is not a Palestinian. He is an American.

His parents immigrated from Palestine. He happened to be born here. In my opinion he is about as American as Yasser Arafat.

He's an American citizen born and raised and educated in America. My ancestry is Welsh - am I any less of an American? There are others here, who are second generation - are they not American?

Technically he's an American but I would opine he has no American values.

 

[Coyote]

His parents immigrated from Palestine. He happened to be born here. In my opinion he is about as American as Yasser Arafat.

He's an American citizen born and raised and educated in America. My ancestry is Welsh - am I any less of an American? There are others here, who are second generation - are they not American?

Technically he's an American but I would opine he has no American values.

Does any mass killer?

 

[Hossfly]

I'm just waiting for Coyote to come here, question the source of this information, defend Hasan, and demand that we prove to her satisfaction that he is guilty of anything.

"The Israelis are stealing Palestinian land and major Hasan had every right to kill his fellow officers in cold blood. After all, what other choice did he have? There are no other options available to him".

"And how do you know those officers didn't attack major Hasan first, and he's not just defending himself as any oppressed, occupied freedom fighter would?"

"There are plenty of instances of Americans attacking Muslims and Arabs, so why do we highlight this case, and not the other ones involving American attacks?"

Samples of Palestinian Mentality(TM) and it's supporters, at its finest.

well, it sure sounds like thirteen dead american soldiers sure worked out well for you. bravo, huh? i cannot believe you, and more for bloodrocck and hossfly, who should know better.

now begin the chant "it's good for israel."

Why should anyone say it was good for Israel? All Major Hasan showed us is that we have to worry about homegrown terrorists in our midst if someone who was a psychiatrist and an Officer as well could do such a heinous deed.. I am sure you have heard of other Muslim homegrown terrorists unless you close your eyes to them. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

[RoccoR]

Bloodrock44, et al,

Ah, American Values!

His parents immigrated from Palestine. He happened to be born here. In my opinion he is about as American as Yasser Arafat.

He's an American citizen born and raised and educated in America. My ancestry is Welsh - am I any less of an American? There are others here, who are second generation - are they not American?

Technically he's an American but I would opine he has no American values.

(COMMENT)

You have to evaluate MAJ Hasan's values from a "whole man" concept and perspective.

It is my understanding that MAJ Hasan does not deny the charges that he killed US Service members. It is my understanding that his defense will revolve around the reason, that these service members represented an imminent threat to Taliban leaders in Afghanistan. I think MAJ Hasan is suggesting that he committed these murders in defense of, or to protect, the Taliban Leadership.

This suggests to me that he has some inability to distinguish loyalties; American 'vs' Taliban.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

His parents immigrated from Palestine. He happened to be born here. In my opinion he is about as American as Yasser Arafat.

He's an American citizen born and raised and educated in America. My ancestry is Welsh - am I any less of an American? There are others here, who are second generation - are they not American?

Technically he's an American but I would opine he has no American values.

Nor does he feel any loyalty whatsoever to this country, in fact if anything he hates America and wants it destroyed, which is why he killed 13 fellow unarmed soldiers in cold blood.

Anybody who thinks his Palestinian background or religion had nothing to do with it is on hallucinogens.

 

[sealadaigh]

capt. john gaffeney 56
lt. col. juanita warman 55
ssgt. justin decrow 32
spc. fred green 29
pfc. francheska velez 21
spc. jason hunt 22
pfc. mike pearson 22
capt. russ seager 51
pfc. kham xiong 22
pfc. aaron nemelka 19
maj. libardo eduardo 52
mr. mike cahill 62
ssgt. amy krueger 29

give to these chidren, new from the world,
rest far from men.
(wby)

 

[Coyote]

I think he was crazy, and the other things are incidental to that - like tools. People kill people.

Look at his picture:

and compare it to this:

He has dead eyes.

 

[Bloodrock44]

He's an American citizen born and raised and educated in America. My ancestry is Welsh - am I any less of an American? There are others here, who are second generation - are they not American?

Technically he's an American but I would opine he has no American values.

Does any mass killer?

Most mass killers do not kill with the intent to destroy America. He supports the Taliban and they want America destroyed.

 

[Moonglow]

I was in Ft. Hood last month and everyone is saying this creature will get the firing squad.

Do you visit Killeen, Tx often?

Half a dozen times a year, but spend most of the time in Copperas Cove at my Assoc. Hq.

Just wondering, Fart Hood was my last post, I was with the 1st Cav. 1/68 ADA co. B. in 85-86. I lived in Copperas Cove and Harker Heights also.
Are the hookers still so ugly you'd swear they wear men in drag?

 

[Roudy]

I think he was crazy, and the other things are incidental to that - like tools. People kill people.

Look at his picture:

and compare it to this:

He has dead eyes.

It's not like its the first time a Muslim born person goes nuts and decides to kill fellow citizens to support his fellow Jihadists. It's called sudden Jihad syndrome. Look it up. You seriously can't be arguing that Hasan wasn't a Muslim who became a homegrown Jihadi terrorist.

You want dead eyes? All Islamic terrorists have dead eyes.

 

[Coyote]

I think he was crazy, and the other things are incidental to that - like tools. People kill people.

Look at his picture:

and compare it to this:

He has dead eyes.

It's not like its the first time a Muslim born person goes nuts and decides to kill fellow citizens to support his fellow Jihadists. It's called sudden Jihad syndrome. Look it up. You seriously can't be arguing that Hasan wasn't a Muslim who became a homegrown Jihadi terrorist.

You want dead eyes? All Islamic terrorists have dead eyes.

I think there is a difference between nuts and zealotry. I think there are terrorists who know exactly what they are doing and do so purposefully with a plan (bin Laden) - they are not crazy. I think there are those who are truly mentally ill and use religion as their "logic".

I think in Hasan falls in that category. It's not that unusual. Religion is a tool in the same way political ideologies are.

 

[Roudy]

I think he was crazy, and the other things are incidental to that - like tools. People kill people.

Look at his picture:

and compare it to this:

He has dead eyes.

It's not like its the first time a Muslim born person goes nuts and decides to kill fellow citizens to support his fellow Jihadists. It's called sudden Jihad syndrome. Look it up. You seriously can't be arguing that Hasan wasn't a Muslim who became a homegrown Jihadi terrorist.

You want dead eyes? All Islamic terrorists have dead eyes.

I think there is a difference between nuts and zealotry. I think there are terrorists who know exactly what they are doing and do so purposefully with a plan (bin Laden) - they are not crazy. I think there are those who are truly mentally ill and use religion as their "logic".

I think in Hasan falls in that category. It's not that unusual. Religion is a tool in the same way political ideologies are.

So what you're saying is his Jihadist statements, his yelling "Allah Akbar" when he was mowing his fellow American soldiers down, his Palestinian Muslim background, his support for other radical terrorist anti American Islamic groups, his being a devout extremist Muslim, and his actions which fell within the typical pattern often seen in Western nations where Muslims, whether naturalized or born there, planning similar terrorist acts such bombing subways, buses, planes, or recently yes even a marathon, etc. have NOTHING to do with it?

This guy was just your average "crazy" serial killer and the whole thing was just "workplace violence"?

Ya okay. I'm stupid to bring those things up. You're right. Here, let me put my head right into the sand. How's that?

 

[Hossfly]

Do you visit Killeen, Tx often?

Half a dozen times a year, but spend most of the time in Copperas Cove at my Assoc. Hq.

Just wondering, Fart Hood was my last post, I was with the 1st Cav. 1/68 ADA co. B. in 85-86. I lived in Copperas Cove and Harker Heights also.
Are the hookers still so ugly you'd swear they wear men in drag?

Ugly as home made sin.

 

[Coyote]

It's not like its the first time a Muslim born person goes nuts and decides to kill fellow citizens to support his fellow Jihadists. It's called sudden Jihad syndrome. Look it up. You seriously can't be arguing that Hasan wasn't a Muslim who became a homegrown Jihadi terrorist.

You want dead eyes? All Islamic terrorists have dead eyes.

I think there is a difference between nuts and zealotry. I think there are terrorists who know exactly what they are doing and do so purposefully with a plan (bin Laden) - they are not crazy. I think there are those who are truly mentally ill and use religion as their "logic".

I think in Hasan falls in that category. It's not that unusual. Religion is a tool in the same way political ideologies are.

So what you're saying is his Jihadist statements, his yelling "Allah Akbar" when he was mowing his fellow American soldiers down, his Palestinian Muslim background, his support for other radical terrorist anti American Islamic groups, his being a devout extremist Muslim, and his actions which fell within the typical pattern often seen in Western nations where Muslims, whether naturalized or born there, planning similar terrorist acts such bombing subways, buses, planes, or recently yes even a marathon, etc. have NOTHING to do with it?

What I'm saying is religion is often used by a twisted mind as a means of making sense of a world that doesn't make sense. What I'm saying is it does not matter what the religion is - it's a vehicle. There is plenty of evidence, in hindsight - that red flagged Hasan has mentally ill.

I realize you prefer to lump them all together but Hasan is not the same as bin Laden and not the same as the Tsarnaev's . For example the Tsarnaev's said that their terrorism was a protest against war, not religion. Bin Ladin, who was by no means insane, was a zealot and conducted his attacks based on a twisted version of his religion. Just because they were Muslim doesn't mean they were driven to do what they did for the same reasons.

This guy was just your average "crazy" serial killer and the whole thing was just "workplace violence"?

It probably was workplace violence in the same way as someone going postal which was what he effectively did only instead of targeting the IRS he targeted the military. You can call it terrorism, it doesn't much matter what you label it - the man was still crazy. And, as far as "aerage "crazy" serial killer - how was he any different from the dude that shot up the Colorado theatre?

Ya okay. I'm stupid to bring those things up. You're right. Here, let me put my head right into the sand. How's that?

I realize it's far harder to think than it is to just hate blame an entire religion for the acts of a madman. Have at it Roudy.

 

[Indofred]

Why is there any issue with American troops being killed in Afghanistan?

The Taliban may well be a bunch of total bastards and I have no support for them at all but, it's their country and you invaded.
I think you have to accept some of your guys are going to die when you invade a country.

 

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

On Wikipedia (not always the best source) there is a List of terrorist incidents, January–June 2012.

I realize it's far harder to think than it is to just hate blame an entire religion for the acts of a madman. Have at it Roudy.

(OBSERVATION)

January: 8/8 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 3 x Al-Shabab: Somalia-based cell of the militant Islamist group al-Qaeda,
• 2 x Islamic State of Iraq: It aims to establish a caliphate in the Sunni dominated regions of Iraq.
• 2 x Boko Haram: Islamic jihadist militant terrorist organisation
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant: Sunni Islamist Jihadists

February: 6/8 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x Al Shabaab
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant
• 1 x Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• 1 x Islamic State of Iraq
• 1 x Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
• 1 x Afghan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Unified National Liberation Front: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x East Turkestan Islamic Movement: Waziri based mujahideen organization

March: 11/18 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Pakistan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa: Alleged goal of spreading jihad further into areas of West Africa, recently broke with al-Qaeda.
• 2 x Islamic State of Iraq
• 1 x Shariat Jamaat: Largest Islamist organization in the Russian republic of Dagestan
• 2 x Patani United Liberation Organization: NOT ISLAMIC
• 2 x Mohammed Merah: NOT ISLAMIC
• 4 x Al-Shabaab
• 1 x Boko Haram
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant
• 1 x FARC: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula

April: 8/13 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 2 x Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
• 3 x al-Shabaab
• 3 x Boko Haram
• 2 x Afghan Taliban NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x PJAK: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x FARC: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Shining Path: NOT ISLAMIC

May: 4/7 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x al-Shabaab
• 1 x Terai People's Liberation Front: NOT ISLAMIC
• 2 x Afghan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Caucasus Emirate: al-Qaeda Associated
• 1 x Pakistani Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant
• 1 x Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula

June: 3/5 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x Boko Haram
• 2 x Islamic State of Iraq
• 2 x Afghan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC

(COMMENT)

I chose this list because it doesn't include any Palestinian data and I did not count any Taliban (Afghan or Pakistani) as Islamic related. But overwhelmingly, 50% of the incidents on the list are Islamic/Jihadist oriented (of known perpetrators). Now this is not a scientific finding by any means. This is just what the average person might see if they choose to look.

Additionally, there is a recent Think Tank type report that is circulating (BLIND TO TERROR: THE U.S. GOVERNMENT’S DISASTROUS MUSLIM OUTREACH EFFORTS AND THE IMPACT ON U.S. MIDDLE EAST POLICY) which everyone might like to read.

Why has the U.S. government called certain Islamic groups supporters of terror in federal court, and then turned around and called these same organizations “moderates” and embraced them as outreach partners? In a number of cases from the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, the leaders of these organizations (some of whom are now in federal prison) were under active investigation at the same time they were meeting with senior U.S. leaders at the White House and the Capitol and helping develop U.S. policy. Now these same Islamic organizations and leaders have openly encouraged a purge of counterterrorism training that have effectively blinded law enforcement, homeland security, and intelligence agencies to active terror threats as seen in the inaction of the FBI concerning the Boston bombing suspects and other terror cases. This study poses serious questions as to the efficacy and even security concerns about U.S. government outreach to Islamic groups, which often turn out to be Islamist militants, enemies of Islamic moderation, and even supporters of terrorism.

SOURCE: MERIA Journal Volume 17, Number 2 (Summer 2013)

There is a growing perception that America, and even its leadership, is playing too soft, too politically correct, with the dangers that are associated with this topic. To be politically correct, the observer cannot make the association between terrorist incidents and Muslims or Islam. Yet, there is an association.

In the case of the Cambridge, Massachusetts, mosque attended by the suspected Boston marathon bombers, when the plethora of extremist ties to the Islamic Society of Boston were reported, a mosque spokesman replied that they could not be extremists since they regularly participated in outreach programs with the FBI, Department of Justice and Homeland Security.

Several people who attended the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge, Mass., have been investigated for Islamic terrorism, including a conviction of the mosque's first president, Abdulrahman Alamoudi, in connection with an assassination plot against a Saudi prince.

Its sister mosque in Boston, known as the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, has invited guests who have defended terrorism suspects. A former trustee appears in a series of videos in which he advocates treating gays as criminals, says husbands should sometimes beat their wives and calls on Allah (God) to kill Zionists and Jews, according to Americans for Peace and Tolerance, an interfaith group that has investigated the mosques.
SOURCE: Boston suspects' mosque has ties to convicted terrorists, fugitives and radical speakers..

This exemplifies the chronic failure of the U.S. government’s outreach programs.

SOURCE: MERIA Journal Volume 17, Number 2 (Summer 2013)

Being too politically correct can be dangerous to your health and security. The Islamic Leaders have made a reputation for themselves, their culture, and the religion. We must be able to absorb what they are saying and give it the attention it is due.

Understanding the risk and the threat is the first step to protecting the peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

Why is there any issue with American troops being killed in Afghanistan?

The Taliban may well be a bunch of total bastards and I have no support for them at all but, it's their country and you invaded.
I think you have to accept some of your guys are going to die when you invade a country.

Tell me, Fred, did the Ahmadis invade some country that they have to be killed by your Sunni brethren? They aren't even treated so well in your own country. Such a shame that the Ahmadis say they only feel safe in America.

PAKISTAN: Ahmadis killed and gravely wounded in attacks; police ask for fictional 'No Objection Certificate' to prevent Ahmadis from praying ? Asian Human Rights Commission

 

[Coyote]

Coyote, et al,

On Wikipedia (not always the best source) there is a List of terrorist incidents, January–June 2012.

I realize it's far harder to think than it is to just hate blame an entire religion for the acts of a madman. Have at it Roudy.

(OBSERVATION)

January: 8/8 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 3 x Al-Shabab: Somalia-based cell of the militant Islamist group al-Qaeda,
• 2 x Islamic State of Iraq: It aims to establish a caliphate in the Sunni dominated regions of Iraq.
• 2 x Boko Haram: Islamic jihadist militant terrorist organisation
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant: Sunni Islamist Jihadists

February: 6/8 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x Al Shabaab
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant
• 1 x Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• 1 x Islamic State of Iraq
• 1 x Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
• 1 x Afghan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Unified National Liberation Front: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x East Turkestan Islamic Movement: Waziri based mujahideen organization

March: 11/18 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Pakistan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa: Alleged goal of spreading jihad further into areas of West Africa, recently broke with al-Qaeda.
• 2 x Islamic State of Iraq
• 1 x Shariat Jamaat: Largest Islamist organization in the Russian republic of Dagestan
• 2 x Patani United Liberation Organization: NOT ISLAMIC
• 2 x Mohammed Merah: NOT ISLAMIC
• 4 x Al-Shabaab
• 1 x Boko Haram
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant
• 1 x FARC: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula

April: 8/13 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 2 x Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
• 3 x al-Shabaab
• 3 x Boko Haram
• 2 x Afghan Taliban NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x PJAK: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x FARC: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Shining Path: NOT ISLAMIC

May: 4/7 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x al-Shabaab
• 1 x Terai People's Liberation Front: NOT ISLAMIC
• 2 x Afghan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Caucasus Emirate: al-Qaeda Associated
• 1 x Pakistani Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC
• 1 x Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant
• 1 x Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula

June: 3/5 Islamic related in those incidents where the perpetrator is known.

• 1 x Boko Haram
• 2 x Islamic State of Iraq
• 2 x Afghan Taliban: NOT ISLAMIC

(COMMENT)

I chose this list because it doesn't include any Palestinian data and I did not count any Taliban (Afghan or Pakistani) as Islamic related. But overwhelmingly, 50% of the incidents on the list are Islamic/Jihadist oriented (of known perpetrators). Now this is not a scientific finding by any means. This is just what the average person might see if they choose to look.

Additionally, there is a recent Think Tank type report that is circulating (BLIND TO TERROR: THE U.S. GOVERNMENT’S DISASTROUS MUSLIM OUTREACH EFFORTS AND THE IMPACT ON U.S. MIDDLE EAST POLICY) which everyone might like to read.

Why has the U.S. government called certain Islamic groups supporters of terror in federal court, and then turned around and called these same organizations “moderates” and embraced them as outreach partners? In a number of cases from the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, the leaders of these organizations (some of whom are now in federal prison) were under active investigation at the same time they were meeting with senior U.S. leaders at the White House and the Capitol and helping develop U.S. policy. Now these same Islamic organizations and leaders have openly encouraged a purge of counterterrorism training that have effectively blinded law enforcement, homeland security, and intelligence agencies to active terror threats as seen in the inaction of the FBI concerning the Boston bombing suspects and other terror cases. This study poses serious questions as to the efficacy and even security concerns about U.S. government outreach to Islamic groups, which often turn out to be Islamist militants, enemies of Islamic moderation, and even supporters of terrorism.

SOURCE: MERIA Journal Volume 17, Number 2 (Summer 2013)

There is a growing perception that America, and even its leadership, is playing too soft, too politically correct, with the dangers that are associated with this topic. To be politically correct, the observer cannot make the association between terrorist incidents and Muslims or Islam. Yet, there is an association.

In the case of the Cambridge, Massachusetts, mosque attended by the suspected Boston marathon bombers, when the plethora of extremist ties to the Islamic Society of Boston were reported, a mosque spokesman replied that they could not be extremists since they regularly participated in outreach programs with the FBI, Department of Justice and Homeland Security.

Several people who attended the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge, Mass., have been investigated for Islamic terrorism, including a conviction of the mosque's first president, Abdulrahman Alamoudi, in connection with an assassination plot against a Saudi prince.

Its sister mosque in Boston, known as the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, has invited guests who have defended terrorism suspects. A former trustee appears in a series of videos in which he advocates treating gays as criminals, says husbands should sometimes beat their wives and calls on Allah (God) to kill Zionists and Jews, according to Americans for Peace and Tolerance, an interfaith group that has investigated the mosques.
SOURCE: Boston suspects' mosque has ties to convicted terrorists, fugitives and radical speakers..

This exemplifies the chronic failure of the U.S. government’s outreach programs.

SOURCE: MERIA Journal Volume 17, Number 2 (Summer 2013)

Being too politically correct can be dangerous to your health and security. The Islamic Leaders have made a reputation for themselves, their culture, and the religion. We must be able to absorb what they are saying and give it the attention it is due.

Understanding the risk and the threat is the first step to protecting the peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

You can place the blame on extremism but to blame an entire religion for the acts of extremists has nothing to do with "politically correct". At this point, in history - the extremists happen to be Islamic. Once you start down the road of blame, you take a path that leads to scape-goating and the persecution of innocents and it happens all too often - just look at the rhetoric that surrounds us coming from mouths of such people as Pamela Geller and accepted by some of our own elected officials. It's the rhetorical and cultural paths that lead to the acceptance of things like the internment of the Japanese or the Holocaust. We should never forget those shameful aspects of our history or what our fellow man are willing to do to each other in the name of ignorance and fear. I feel very strongly about this and that is should be fought at every juncture just as strongly as extremism should be fought.