Has Black Lies Matter Already Launched a Slow Civil War?

[Carla_Danger]

It's time for white people to start laughing when black people kill other black people.

How funny is that? The enemy is killing each other!

You are a disgusting racist and your perspective will only end in failure as it has been played against so many times with complete defeat for racists like you over the last century, it isn't even funny.

Welcome to my ignore/shun list, dude.

Wow, you know Tipsykook is racist slime, when even a racist like JimBob has to put her on ignore. That's like over the top, bottom of the barrel racist slime. lol

 

[JimBowie1958]

Allende was elected to office. The CIA, under Nixon, took him out in a coup and stalled Pinochet .. a war criminal.

There is no legitimate election of a dictator.

Allende should have been Drawn and Quartered.

 

[Asclepias]

That pretty much should have been the motto before Black Lives Matters was coined. As it is All Lives matter was only used to deflect away from police brutality in the Black community.

It has been the motto of decent humans for years and years. While I don't want to assign a motive to your posts, you SEEM to be trying to justify attacks on all police officers because some have been corrupt. But, isn't that just as incorrect as treating all black people as criminal because a few commit crimes? I hope that's just a misconception and not your intention.

Must not be that many decent humans around then. Weird how you seem to think descent humans shoot Black people out of fear. I'm glad you dont want to assign a motive but you do want to imply I support attacks on all police offers. Lets clarify. If a cop is dirty I'm glad he got his ass smoked. If not then I feel for him just as I would feel for the members of my family that are good cops.

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really think about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly know the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence. My opinion is based on reality. Not media manipulation.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Nothing proves white superiority better than the objections to the idea that black lives matter.

Perhaps the idea is that ALL lives matter and there shouldn't be a racial caveat to that statement.

Thanks for the example. All lives do matter. Some just not as much as others it seems , hence the qualifier.

I just can't agree.

Fine, it's not required.

 

[hunarcy]

It has been the motto of decent humans for years and years. While I don't want to assign a motive to your posts, you SEEM to be trying to justify attacks on all police officers because some have been corrupt. But, isn't that just as incorrect as treating all black people as criminal because a few commit crimes? I hope that's just a misconception and not your intention.

Must not be that many decent humans around then. Weird how you seem to think descent humans shoot Black people out of fear. I'm glad you dont want to assign a motive but you do want to imply I support attacks on all police offers. Lets clarify. If a cop is dirty I'm glad he got his ass smoked. If not then I feel for him just as I would feel for the members of my family that are good cops.

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Nothing proves white superiority better than the objections to the idea that black lives matter.

Perhaps the idea is that ALL lives matter and there shouldn't be a racial caveat to that statement.

Thanks for the example. All lives do matter. Some just not as much as others it seems , hence the qualifier.

I just can't agree.

Fine, it's not required.

There seems to be some confusion here as Hunarchy is speaking of an ideal standard, while you Hutch seem to be speaking of the effective standard put in place by todays media and society.

I'm a getting the tow of your correctly?

 

[Asclepias]

Must not be that many decent humans around then. Weird how you seem to think descent humans shoot Black people out of fear. I'm glad you dont want to assign a motive but you do want to imply I support attacks on all police offers. Lets clarify. If a cop is dirty I'm glad he got his ass smoked. If not then I feel for him just as I would feel for the members of my family that are good cops.

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

Thats a totally different deflection. My concern is with the Black community. Basically BlackLivesMatters. You just did the new All lives matters deflection. The problem is extremely common in Black communities. It has impacted our community way more than it will ever impact the white community. If you are going to deflect at least be less obvious about it.

What you call society does not reflect all of my values. Your society is different from my society in fundamental ways.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Must not be that many decent humans around then. Weird how you seem to think descent humans shoot Black people out of fear. I'm glad you dont want to assign a motive but you do want to imply I support attacks on all police offers. Lets clarify. If a cop is dirty I'm glad he got his ass smoked. If not then I feel for him just as I would feel for the members of my family that are good cops.

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

There are bad cops, true, but the war Black Lies Matter is waging now is on ALL peace officers, good and bad.

It is past time to stop quibbling about nuances and stand up for these good public servants.

This never would have happened when I was growing up because people understood the role of police to serve and protect in 99% of America. The use of police to collect government revenues with traffic fines and the seizure of private property has largely changed the perspective of many today, and that is a shame.

 

[Political Junky]

Allende was elected to office. The CIA, under Nixon, took him out in a coup and stalled Pinochet .. a war criminal.

There is no legitimate election of a dictator.

Allende should have been Drawn and Quartered.

He was shot instead.
Salvador Allende - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
known as the first Marxist to become president of a Latin American country through open elections.

 

[Asclepias]

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

There are bad cops, true, but the war Black Lies Matter is waging now is on ALL peace officers, good and bad.

It is past time to stop quibbling about nuances and stand up for these good public servants.

This never would have happened when I was growing up because people understood the role of police to serve and protect in 99% of America. The use of police to collect government revenues with traffic fines and the seizure of private property has largely changed the perspective of many today, and that is a shame.

I'm guessing you didnt grow up in a Black or Hispanic community full of dirty cops?

 

[ClosedCaption]

There are bad cops, true,

Now how would you feel if someone accused you of hating cops and making this about all cops from this factual statement?

Thats what the PC police are doing. I've asked several times whats the correct way to address the issue of bad cops and no one answers. But when bad cops are brought up the same people with no answers yell "YOU COP HATER!!!"

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Must not be that many decent humans around then. Weird how you seem to think descent humans shoot Black people out of fear. I'm glad you dont want to assign a motive but you do want to imply I support attacks on all police offers. Lets clarify. If a cop is dirty I'm glad he got his ass smoked. If not then I feel for him just as I would feel for the members of my family that are good cops.

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

I mostly agree with that with the exceptions being that I can't say that those actions are done without a racial component. Given that the black community is policed at far higher rates than whites shows that blacks are more likely to be the victims of this abuse of authority. I agree that society should judge them. That being said, we all only know what we know. The protests after Ferguson have brought quite a bit to light about how blacks are policed and handled in the criminal justice system. Police departments around the nation have revisited their policies as a result. Protest movements are how we inform society to better judge.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

There are bad cops, true, but the war Black Lies Matter is waging now is on ALL peace officers, good and bad.

It is past time to stop quibbling about nuances and stand up for these good public servants.

This never would have happened when I was growing up because people understood the role of police to serve and protect in 99% of America. The use of police to collect government revenues with traffic fines and the seizure of private property has largely changed the perspective of many today, and that is a shame.

Black Lives Matter is not waging a war, you idiot. The black community has never felt the police were there to protect, only to harass and heavily patrol their neighborhoods, which is why the black community rarely call the police for help, or offer information as witnesses. This distrust has been going on, right under your nose, for years. Thanks to the internet and cell phone recordings we are now able to see why there has been so much distrust throughout the years.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There are bad cops, true,

Now how would you feel if someone accused you of hating cops and making this about all cops from this factual statement?

Thats what the PC police are doing. I've asked several times whats the correct way to address the issue of bad cops and no one answers. But when bad cops are brought up the same people with no answers yell "YOU COP HATER!!!"

Are you serious?
Bad cops should be handled through internal affairs and the DA's office. They should not be executed in the street.

But this is way beyond that and you know it. This is a declared open war on ALL peace officers, regardless if they are good or bad. We need to stand up for these good public servants who put their lives on the line for us every day of the week.

Your obfuscation does not help in that effort and I think you realize it and that's your real point.

 

[the_human_being]

There are bad cops, true,

Now how would you feel if someone accused you of hating cops and making this about all cops from this factual statement?

Thats what the PC police are doing. I've asked several times whats the correct way to address the issue of bad cops and no one answers. But when bad cops are brought up the same people with no answers yell "YOU COP HATER!!!"

The Black Lives Matter movement is quickly turning law abiding citizen into concluding that Black Lives Don't Matter. They are showing Blacks in the worst possible light.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Excellent start. Now, how do we determine if a policeman is "dirty"? Do YOU decide or should you file charges and let society decide? Because if YOU are the one deciding, then you really don't have a lot of difference between yourself and those who decide to shoot a Black person out of fear.

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

I mostly agree with that with the exceptions being that I can't say that those actions are done without a racial component. Given that the black community is policed at far higher rates than whites shows that blacks are more likely to be the victims of this abuse of authority. I agree that society should judge them. That being said, we all only know what we know. The protests after Ferguson have brought quite a bit to light about how blacks are policed and handled in the criminal justice system. Police departments around the nation have revisited their policies as a result. Protest movements are how we inform society to better judge.

The police ARE SENT where the CRIMES are. So don't blame them for more heavily policing black communities. Most of the residents of those communities are not engaged in illegal activities but are victimized by it. They support the cops as they know what will happen if the cops leave; and that is the explosion of murder rates and other violent crime that is now going on in inner cities across the country, most of the victims being other blacks.

You say, "Protest movements are how we inform society to better judge." and sometimes that is true, but calling for the murder of peace officers is not acceptable protest.

 

[Asclepias]

"We" dont do the determining. If there is no clear proof either way then I am ambivalent. For instance a cop could be an upstanding man of the people in his white community. However, when policing Blacks, he is a raging racist cave ape. That guy I would laugh when he was killed. You probably would mourn him. So your little question really has no merit because you dont determine how I judge someone and I could care less how you judge them.

So, by taking that stand, you're actually saying that individuals should judge, not society and that society shouldn't interfere with that judgment. Your opinion seems to be based on race and anarchy. That's sad.

If you really thing about it. Society is not in a position to judge. They cant possibly no the entire story unless they were there. There is a reason the cops play up the good side of officers. Its called swaying public opinion. On the other hand they play up the negative side of anyone they happen to shoot. If you note neither actions have anything to do with what actually occurred. The supposedly "good" cop could have been a racist and shot the supposedly "bad" civilian simply because he wanted to. Thats why video of these events has become so important. Now we see cops on tape doing the things the Black community has long accused them of doing like planting evidence.

Cops that behave that way will plant evidence on anyone they choose to victimize, not just Blacks. Some years ago, a young man I knew was shot and killed in Houston and the policeman put a pistol on the ground beside him. He was a white kid. Had nothing to do with race. And, Society is the only entity that should judge because it's made up of ALL of us and reflects all of our values.

There are bad cops, true, but the war Black Lies Matter is waging now is on ALL peace officers, good and bad.

It is past time to stop quibbling about nuances and stand up for these good public servants.

This never would have happened when I was growing up because people understood the role of police to serve and protect in 99% of America. The use of police to collect government revenues with traffic fines and the seizure of private property has largely changed the perspective of many today, and that is a shame.

Black Lives Matter is not waging a war, you idiot. The black community has never felt the police were there to protect, only to harass and heavily patrol their neighborhoods, which is why the black community rarely call the police for help, or offer information as witnesses. This distrust has been going on, right under your nose, for years. Thanks to the internet and cell phone recordings we are now able to see why there has been so much distrust throughout the years.

Having grown up in a neighborhood plagued by the drug trade I have first hand knowledge of how it operates. The police are a very large component. They control who gets to sell the drugs and protects them from rivals in exchange for money. Everyone in the neighborhood knows this. When the cops are called on the drug dealer the cops tell the drug dealer who made the call. That is a big part of why Blacks dont trust cops. You dont know who is dirty or how high up it goes.

 

[Pete7469]

My regret is that Pinochet didn't get all of the Marxists who are now back in their larval stage waiting for another economic crisis.

And I think we have a third option here; strong executive leadership with isolated local declarations of martial law and military justice for designated terrorists.

I am only saying that I cannot blame the Death Squads any more. I am so outraged with the slaughter of these good peace officers that my blood just boils and this is true of most people I know.

The Democrats are digging themselves a hole that will last generations.

I hope we have time to wait for the third option. Maybe things will quiet down on their own, but without an adult in the room I don't see nap time on the horizon. I do know I stand behind the cops and have their back.

 

[JimBowie1958]

My regret is that Pinochet didn't get all of the Marxists who are now back in their larval stage waiting for another economic crisis.

And I think we have a third option here; strong executive leadership with isolated local declarations of martial law and military justice for designated terrorists.

I am only saying that I cannot blame the Death Squads any more. I am so outraged with the slaughter of these good peace officers that my blood just boils and this is true of most people I know.

The Democrats are digging themselves a hole that will last generations.

I hope we have time to wait for the third option. Maybe things will quiet down on their own, but without an adult in the room I don't see nap time on the horizon. I do know I stand behind the cops and have their back.

Amen, brother, amen.

 

[bucs90]

There are bad cops, true,

Now how would you feel if someone accused you of hating cops and making this about all cops from this factual statement?

Thats what the PC police are doing. I've asked several times whats the correct way to address the issue of bad cops and no one answers. But when bad cops are brought up the same people with no answers yell "YOU COP HATER!!!"

Are you serious?
Bad cops should be handled through internal affairs and the DA's office. They should not be executed in the street.

But this is way beyond that and you know it. This is a declared open war on ALL peace officers, regardless if they are good or bad. We need to stand up for these good public servants who put their lives on the line for us every day of the week.

Your obfuscation does not help in that effort and I think you realize it and that's your real point.

You're exactly right. They're desperate to walk it back and put this genie back into the bottle. Too late.