Hamas' 10 year cease fire proposal

[teddyearp]

Well here is the sound bite:

Hamas's conditions were the release of re-arrested Palestinian prisoners who were let go in the Schalit deal, the opening of Gaza-Israel border crossings in order to allow citizens and goods to pass through, and international supervision of the Gazan seaport in place of the current Israeli blockade.

Link:

Report: Hamas proposes 10-year cease-fire in return for conditions being met | JPost | Israel News

So, if this were accepted, would Hamas actually hold up their end? At the end of the article, the Qassam brigades said they rejected the text of the deal, but maybe that is in reference to the Egyptian one?

Thoughts?

 

[Roudy]

Well here is the sound bite:

Hamas's conditions were the release of re-arrested Palestinian prisoners who were let go in the Schalit deal, the opening of Gaza-Israel border crossings in order to allow citizens and goods to pass through, and international supervision of the Gazan seaport in place of the current Israeli blockade.

Link:

Report: Hamas proposes 10-year cease-fire in return for conditions being met | JPost | Israel News

So, if this were accepted, would Hamas actually hold up their end? At the end of the article, the Qassam brigades said they rejected the text of the deal, byut maybe that is in reference to the Egyptian one?

Thoughts?

It appears that Israel has checkmated Hamas. They did not anticipate that Israel now has the ability to block multiple rockets at the same time. Facing virtually no support from the Arab / Muslim world, no sympathy from the UN and the world, and a failed strategy, they now want this ten year break to possibly get their hands on a WMD or a new strategy that would bring Israel to it's knees.

Israel should be stupid to agree. Even the Hamas' own charter says "no agreements, negotiations, or peace treaties with the Zionist entity are accepted, unless it's a trick to advance it's ultimate destruction". They cannot be trusted. Israel should now go in for the kill in my humble opinion.

 

[Ibentoken]

Muslims lie.

 

[proudveteran06]

Two questions;Why is it only 10 years vs. a permanent cease fire?
What would the " Intrrnational Community" lol say if Hamas broke the " peace agreement" and Israel responded? Would there be any condemnation of Hamas? Of course not

 

[teddyearp]

Good questions proudveteran. As another said, the ten year part makes me suspicious as well. Maybe (and I'm being the devil's advocate) if Israel agreed to it on the terms that the international supervision of the Gaza seaport included making sure Hamas isn't abusing it to import more weapons and possible importation of WMD's. Because after all, wasn't there a video posted that said the rocket builders weren't affected by the blockade(s)?

 

[westwall]

Two questions;Why is it only 10 years vs. a permanent cease fire?
What would the " Intrrnational Community" lol say if Hamas broke the " peace agreement" and Israel responded? Would there be any condemnation of Hamas? Of course not

For the very reason ROUDY stated, ten years to build up their supplies and obtain a WMD. A ceasefire would only benefit HAMAS. Israel would be foolish to agree to it.

 

[skye]

Well here is the sound bite:

Hamas's conditions were the release of re-arrested Palestinian prisoners who were let go in the Schalit deal, the opening of Gaza-Israel border crossings in order to allow citizens and goods to pass through, and international supervision of the Gazan seaport in place of the current Israeli blockade.

Link:

Report: Hamas proposes 10-year cease-fire in return for conditions being met | JPost | Israel News

So, if this were accepted, would Hamas actually hold up their end? At the end of the article, the Qassam brigades said they rejected the text of the deal, but maybe that is in reference to the Egyptian one?

Thoughts?

These conditions obviously should not be met and would be a victory for Hamas, in any case, any agreement with Hamas is pointless in view of their history of breaking everyone of them.

At the end of the day, as long as Hamas refuses to aknowledge Israel's right to exist, there will be no peace.

 

[Daniyel]

Yeah how about Israel should throw up some preconditions?

 

[skye]

Yeah how about Israel should throw up some preconditions?

I agree, and the main precondition should be that Hamas finally abandonds its objective of the destruction of Israel from its charter, otherwise even talking to them is useless!

 

[Statistikhengst]

Well here is the sound bite:

Hamas's conditions were the release of re-arrested Palestinian prisoners who were let go in the Schalit deal, the opening of Gaza-Israel border crossings in order to allow citizens and goods to pass through, and international supervision of the Gazan seaport in place of the current Israeli blockade.

Link:

Report: Hamas proposes 10-year cease-fire in return for conditions being met | JPost | Israel News

So, if this were accepted, would Hamas actually hold up their end? At the end of the article, the Qassam brigades said they rejected the text of the deal, byut maybe that is in reference to the Egyptian one?

Thoughts?

It appears that Israel has checkmated Hamas. They did not anticipate that Israel now has the ability to block multiple rockets at the same time. Facing virtually no support from the Arab / Muslim world, no sympathy from the UN and the world, and a failed strategy, they now want this ten year break to possibly get their hands on a WMD or a new strategy that would bring Israel to it's knees.

Israel should be stupid to agree. Even the Hamas' own charter says "no agreements, negotiations, or peace treaties with the Zionist entity are accepted, unless it's a trick to advance it's ultimate destruction". They cannot be trusted. Israel should now go in for the kill in my humble opinion.

Yes, they should.

I don't believe a godd-mned word that Hamas says. Even before Hamas opens it's mouth, it's already lying.

And Hamas is in no position to be dictating any conditions.

The best thing that Hamas deserves is a "Henkersmahlzeit". (google it)

 

[Statistikhengst]

Yeah how about Israel should throw up some preconditions?

I agree, and the main precondition should be that Hamas finally abandonds its objective of the destruction of Israel from its charter, otherwise even talking to them is useless!

I think the precondition that Israel demands of Hamas should be exactly what Hamas keeps saying it's going to do to the Jews, namely, to force them into the sea.

I think Israel should say to Hamas that it should march itself into the sea, and if it doesn't drown as a result, then maybe they can talk to each other.

Sounds fair to me. I mean, after all, when Hamas screams at the top of it's lungs that it's going to force Jews into the sea, a lot of people don't even flinch, so I assume they think it's civilized. That being the case, it would therefore be perfectly reasonable to Israel to demand this of Hamas as a logical precondition.

 

[aris2chat]

five hour humanitarian ceasefire is over already?

hamas just couldn't wait? Iron dome caught two incoming.

 

[Statistikhengst]

five hour humanitarian ceasefire is over already?

hamas just couldn't wait? Iron dome caught two incoming.

Hamas is really bad with math.

You know why?

Cuz all the statistics studs are JEWS.

 

[Phoenall]

Well here is the sound bite:

Hamas's conditions were the release of re-arrested Palestinian prisoners who were let go in the Schalit deal, the opening of Gaza-Israel border crossings in order to allow citizens and goods to pass through, and international supervision of the Gazan seaport in place of the current Israeli blockade.

Link:

Report: Hamas proposes 10-year cease-fire in return for conditions being met | JPost | Israel News

So, if this were accepted, would Hamas actually hold up their end? At the end of the article, the Qassam brigades said they rejected the text of the deal, but maybe that is in reference to the Egyptian one?

Thoughts?

They cant be trusted to deal fair and square so Israel and the rest of the world need assurances that hamas will force its people to stick to the ceasefire. This includes any Palestinian engaging in suicide bombing to see his/her family executed and their bodies left out to rot.

 

[Phoenall]

Well here is the sound bite:

Hamas's conditions were the release of re-arrested Palestinian prisoners who were let go in the Schalit deal, the opening of Gaza-Israel border crossings in order to allow citizens and goods to pass through, and international supervision of the Gazan seaport in place of the current Israeli blockade.

Link:

Report: Hamas proposes 10-year cease-fire in return for conditions being met | JPost | Israel News

So, if this were accepted, would Hamas actually hold up their end? At the end of the article, the Qassam brigades said they rejected the text of the deal, byut maybe that is in reference to the Egyptian one?

Thoughts?

It appears that Israel has checkmated Hamas. They did not anticipate that Israel now has the ability to block multiple rockets at the same time. Facing virtually no support from the Arab / Muslim world, no sympathy from the UN and the world, and a failed strategy, they now want this ten year break to possibly get their hands on a WMD or a new strategy that would bring Israel to it's knees.

Israel should be stupid to agree. Even the Hamas' own charter says "no agreements, negotiations, or peace treaties with the Zionist entity are accepted, unless it's a trick to advance it's ultimate destruction". They cannot be trusted. Israel should now go in for the kill in my humble opinion.

Remember the last one were hamas stated that they could break the ceasefire at any time they thought they had the weapons to defeat Israel. And promptly lost when they did.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Two questions;Why is it only 10 years vs. a permanent cease fire?
What would the " Intrrnational Community" lol say if Hamas broke the " peace agreement" and Israel responded? Would there be any condemnation of Hamas? Of course not

For the very reason ROUDY stated, ten years to build up their supplies and obtain a WMD. A ceasefire would only benefit HAMAS. Israel would be foolish to agree to it.

Israel will do what America tell it to do.As with the five hour cease fire.

 

[toastman]

Death to Hamas !

 

[Kondor3]

The losing side in a war does not impose terms.

Hamas cannot be trusted.

Period.

If I were running Isreal, I'd tell Hamas "no chance in hell", and tell Hamas to phukk off.

I would then resume killing them in large numbers, until I obtained an unconditional surrender.

 

[teddyearp]

Israel will do what America tell it to do.As with the five hour cease fire.

Israel went into Gaza and launched mortars at itself???????

Isolated mortar fire hits Israel despite UN humanitarian cease-fire | JPost | Israel News

 

[westwall]

Two questions;Why is it only 10 years vs. a permanent cease fire?
What would the " Intrrnational Community" lol say if Hamas broke the " peace agreement" and Israel responded? Would there be any condemnation of Hamas? Of course not

For the very reason ROUDY stated, ten years to build up their supplies and obtain a WMD. A ceasefire would only benefit HAMAS. Israel would be foolish to agree to it.

Israel will do what America tell it to do.As with the five hour cease fire.

Israel could care less what the US says now. Obama has treated Israel like shit. Israel will do whatever they feel like doing because they know Obama hasn't got the balls to do anything about it.