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[Divine Wind]

One Ohio Ordnance BAR, one DPMS .308, one Ruger Mini-14, one Marlin 1895 45/70 lever action, one Glock 30 .45 ACP, one PARA Ordnance 1911, one Taurus PT92AF 9mm, one Ruger New Vaquero .357 Magnum revolver, one Ruger MKIII .22 Cal. Target pistol and one Pietta .44 Cal. 1858 Black Powder revolver. My collection is complete.

I wanted a Springfield Armory M1A, but couldn't quite justify the luxury and went with a DPMS instead:

Nice AR-10 there. I like the 1911 to. I'll be saving my centavos for one of those. I'm pretty close to having it paid for. I shoot a Bushmaster XM15-A2. Great gun, and very reliable.

My question for you is about that 1911. How tight is it, and have you shot any real crappy ammo through it?

It's tight. I love it. Had owned one before, but had to give it up about 20 years ago, so was happy to acquire another one. I like stock, mil-spec. Nothing fancy. Yes, Tulammo steel case. No problem.
TulAmmo Ammo 45 ACP 230 Grain Full Metal Jacket (Bi-Metal) Steel Case

My favorite shooter is an AK-47. I have two now, plus an SKS. All great for hunting hogs. all in either Tulammo SP or WPA JHP.

7.62x39mm ammo - MidwayUSA

Rifle Ammunition - Load Up Your AR & AK

 

[Divine Wind]

One of my AKs and my SKS at the range.

 

[Crixus]

One of my AKs and my SKS at the range.

You know, I remember back in the 90's I bought an SKS for $90 bucks. It was my bear gun. nice set up there.

 

[miketx]

Back in the day I had an SKS that came from the factory accepting AK mags. Sorry to say it was a pos.

 

[Divine Wind]

Back in the day I had an SKS that came from the factory accepting AK mags. Sorry to say it was a pos.

Who modified it? I think those who pimp out an SKS are messing with perfection. It's a great, tough carbine albeit slower to reload with 10 rounds from the top. OTOH, I've never been in a firefight with a wild hog, so 10 rounds is 8 too many.

 

[Crixus]

I don't like them to pimped out. would not have helped mine anyway. it was a crappy norinco. Where I hunted hogs at the time shots were loooong so I upgraded to a .270. My brother has that rifle now. I miss it.think I'll be getting g that one back here soon.

 

[Divine Wind]

I don't like them to pimped out. would not have helped mine anyway. it was a crappy norinco. Where I hunted hogs at the time shots were loooong so I upgraded to a .270. My brother has that rifle now. I miss it.think I'll be getting g that one back here soon.

The .270 is a great hunting round and bolt actions are very accurate and reliable. I was debating about buying one, but opted for more "all around" rifles...and more of them including a Yugo Mauser 24/48 and a Mosin-Nagant each with over 800 rounds of ammo. Both will end up on my wall for display and occasional shooting.

 

[Crixus]

I don't like them to pimped out. would not have helped mine anyway. it was a crappy norinco. Where I hunted hogs at the time shots were loooong so I upgraded to a .270. My brother has that rifle now. I miss it.think I'll be getting g that one back here soon.

The .270 is a great hunting round and bolt actions are very accurate and reliable. I was debating about buying one, but opted for more "all around" rifles...and more of them including a Yugo Mauser 24/48 and a Mosin-Nagant each with over 800 rounds of ammo. Both will end up on my wall for display and occasional shooting.

Man, those Mosin Nagants are another MilSurp golden oldie. I remember when you could buy them in lots of 5 for like a hundred bucks? Definitely a gun no gun owner has an excuse to not own and it wI'll seve equally as a baseball bat in the zombie apocalypse . If your looking for a decent rifle in .270 check out the rifles from CZ. For the money (which isn't allot) you get an extremely nice rifle.

 

[Divine Wind]

I don't like them to pimped out. would not have helped mine anyway. it was a crappy norinco. Where I hunted hogs at the time shots were loooong so I upgraded to a .270. My brother has that rifle now. I miss it.think I'll be getting g that one back here soon.

The .270 is a great hunting round and bolt actions are very accurate and reliable. I was debating about buying one, but opted for more "all around" rifles...and more of them including a Yugo Mauser 24/48 and a Mosin-Nagant each with over 800 rounds of ammo. Both will end up on my wall for display and occasional shooting.

Man, those Mosin Nagants are another MilSurp golden oldie. I remember when you could buy them in lots of 5 for like a hundred bucks? Definitely a gun no gun owner has an excuse to not own and it wI'll seve equally as a baseball bat in the zombie apocalypse . If your looking for a decent rifle in .270 check out the rifles from CZ. For the money (which isn't allot) you get an extremely nice rifle.

The Mosin is fun because of it's history. I have a bayonet for it too for the Zombie Apocalypse. Same for the Mauser.

The CZ 550 series looks interesting: http://cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cz-usa_2016-product-catalog.pdf

 

[Crixus]

I like the 527. Just sold one on .223, already regret it. I'm thinking I'll get another in 7.62x39.

 

[Divine Wind]

I like the 527. Just sold one on .223, already regret it. I'm thinking I'll get another in 7.62x39.

I love the 7.62x39 round much more than the 5.56/.223. Much better for hunting and much better for penetration in home defense.

Although for years I advocated a 12ga pump as the best home defense weapon, an article in American Rifleman convinced me to rethink that position. Even though he mentions an AR, the most common assault weapon in the US, I prefer the AK as more practical since it also makes a better hunting rifle for hogs.

The AR for Home Defense: One Expert's Opinion


A more general article on home defense weaponry.
Choosing a Home-Defense Gun

 

[Bonzi]

 

[Crixus]

I like the 527. Just sold one on .223, already regret it. I'm thinking I'll get another in 7.62x39.

I love the 7.62x39 round much more than the 5.56/.223. Much better for hunting and much better for penetration in home defense.

Although for years I advocated a 12ga pump as the best home defense weapon, an article in American Rifleman convinced me to rethink that position. Even though he mentions an AR, the most common assault weapon in the US, I prefer the AK as more practical since it also makes a better hunting rifle for hogs.

The AR for Home Defense: One Expert's Opinion


A more general article on home defense weaponry.
Choosing a Home-Defense Gun

Agree on the commie round, and with some good brass and some carefully worked

I like the 527. Just sold one on .223, already regret it. I'm thinking I'll get another in 7.62x39.

I love the 7.62x39 round much more than the 5.56/.223. Much better for hunting and much better for penetration in home defense.

Although for years I advocated a 12ga pump as the best home defense weapon, an article in American Rifleman convinced me to rethink that position. Even though he mentions an AR, the most common assault weapon in the US, I prefer the AK as more practical since it also makes a better hunting rifle for hogs.

The AR for Home Defense: One Expert's Opinion


A more general article on home defense weaponry.
Choosing a Home-Defense Gun

Another great thing about the 7.62x39 in a bolt gun is that you can buy primo brass for not allot of dollars. The bolt gun gives one more bullet options from cast bullets on up to primo hunting bullets. I think you get a little more room as far as length go's in the bolt guns magazine. This was not the case in my 556 version. Diddnt matter to much I just went single shot with it.

I am and have been devout to the AR platform since I was a kid. Good points in both articles though. For when my gun sits in home defense, or general vermin extermination mode, I load it with, 62 grain steel core green tip. With my barrels 1-9 rifling, I get that tumbling effect that many hate for the damage it does to flesh. One thing I noticed also it that this bullet tends to fragment when it hits. In a hog and deer, some times they blow through, but typically it comes apart on bone and is just devastating. The commie round does this to. Especially the hollow point ammo from Wolf. Sorry to ramble. The Commie round is nicer to shoot from a short rifle to. Every bit as nice as the 223 version. Now the, 7.62R is just loud no matter what. Sounds like a slamming screen door. The commie version of the 30/06. Brass is available and not so costly. All three rounds are great hunters and plinkers in a bolt gun and carefully worked hand loads. But, to do that one would be delving into gun nerddom. Tred carefully.

 

[Crixus]

I have an EAA witness. Can't beat it for the buck.

 

[Divine Wind]

I like the 527. Just sold one on .223, already regret it. I'm thinking I'll get another in 7.62x39.

I love the 7.62x39 round much more than the 5.56/.223. Much better for hunting and much better for penetration in home defense.

Although for years I advocated a 12ga pump as the best home defense weapon, an article in American Rifleman convinced me to rethink that position. Even though he mentions an AR, the most common assault weapon in the US, I prefer the AK as more practical since it also makes a better hunting rifle for hogs.

The AR for Home Defense: One Expert's Opinion


A more general article on home defense weaponry.
Choosing a Home-Defense Gun

Agree on the commie round, and with some good brass and some carefully worked

I like the 527. Just sold one on .223, already regret it. I'm thinking I'll get another in 7.62x39.

I love the 7.62x39 round much more than the 5.56/.223. Much better for hunting and much better for penetration in home defense.

Although for years I advocated a 12ga pump as the best home defense weapon, an article in American Rifleman convinced me to rethink that position. Even though he mentions an AR, the most common assault weapon in the US, I prefer the AK as more practical since it also makes a better hunting rifle for hogs.

The AR for Home Defense: One Expert's Opinion


A more general article on home defense weaponry.
Choosing a Home-Defense Gun

Another great thing about the 7.62x39 in a bolt gun is that you can buy primo brass for not allot of dollars. The bolt gun gives one more bullet options from cast bullets on up to primo hunting bullets. I think you get a little more room as far as length go's in the bolt guns magazine. This was not the case in my 556 version. Diddnt matter to much I just went single shot with it.

I am and have been devout to the AR platform since I was a kid. Good points in both articles though. For when my gun sits in home defense, or general vermin extermination mode, I load it with, 62 grain steel core green tip. With my barrels 1-9 rifling, I get that tumbling effect that many hate for the damage it does to flesh. One thing I noticed also it that this bullet tends to fragment when it hits. In a hog and deer, some times they blow through, but typically it comes apart on bone and is just devastating. The commie round does this to. Especially the hollow point ammo from Wolf. Sorry to ramble. The Commie round is nicer to shoot from a short rifle to. Every bit as nice as the 223 version. Now the, 7.62R is just loud no matter what. Sounds like a slamming screen door. The commie version of the 30/06. Brass is available and not so costly. All three rounds are great hunters and plinkers in a bolt gun and carefully worked hand loads. But, to do that one would be delving into gun nerddom. Tred carefully.

1) I don't don't reload, so paying extra for brass is a waste of cash.

2) Although I have a Mosin-Nagant and Yugo Mauser 24/48 for long range shots, I don't plan on using them much. Most hog shots are made at 100 yards or less. I'd take a 200 yard shot, but beyond that, I don't plan on walking that far nor risk just wounding an animal, even a varmint, to suffer from a misplace shot.

3) the .223/5.56 is great for small varmints like groundhogs, and I've killed pigs with it, but overall, it's unsuitable for hunting and banned from deer hunting in many states for good reason.

4) The M-16/5.56 was developed as a light weight assault rifle for the Air Force to guard their fences. It's not a battle rifle as far too many soldiers and Marines found out in the Great Southeast Asian war games.

5) I was on the JROTC rifle team in high school. One summer we went to two weeks of boot-like training at Ft. Leonard Wood and qualified with the M-14. With iron sights, we were shooting man-sized fiberglass targets at 700 yards. In 1975 when I attended my first increment of PLC training with the Marine Corps we also carried, fired and qualified with the M-14. We qualified at 200, 300 and 500 yard ranges. I dropped 4 points on qualification day. Two years later, we were issued the M-16. Unlike the M-14 which you could drop in the mud, pick up and fire, the plastic Mattel rifle would jam up if you looked at it wrong. On qualification day, I was doing great at the 200 and 300 yard ranges, but at 500 it was a 50/50 toss up as to whether or not I'd hit black or white.

6) The AK-47 and SKS are great field rifles. Fire'em all day, don't clean them at all and they'll keep firing. Sure, there's some slop in them and they don't even have the 500 range of the shitty M-16/AR, but they are far tougher and will last years longer than the AR platform.

7) The 7.62X39MM round is a great hunting round for up to 200 yards. Plenty of mass and punch to take down a hog or a deer. The .223, not so much.

8) The AR platform is very popular and, as such, there is a greater number of options to upgrade, pimp out and otherwise accessorize a person's AR. The AK has a large array of similar options, but still far less than the AR. Nonetheless, just because something is popular doesn't make it the best. It just helps make it cheap to buy.

9) For reloaders, the .223 is cheaper because there are plenty of brass cases available and also plenty of bullet options due to the popularity of the round. The 7.62X39 is much more limited for reloaders, but offers a lot of cheap options in purchasing. I buy mine as HPs/SPs in bulk at less than 25¢/round. Even reloaders would have to reload a shitload of rounds to pay for their equipment, time and expenses to match that price.

10) As the .45 vs 9mm argument displays, there is a lot of difference between not only performance but needs. It's not just a matter of opinion since the performance figures are easily found, but like choosing a car, it's a matter of one's individual needs. There is no perfect car which is simultaneously economical, an SUV, a pick-up and a sexy sports car cheap to drive, but has the power to go from 0 to 60 in a few seconds.

Firearms are the similar. There is not perfect gun, but there are different needs and performances. It's all a matter of trade-offs. IMO, the AK/SKS platforms and the 7.62X39mm round offer the best function and performance for the lowest cost. I can have fun all day busting caps, go hunting and have a great home defense weapon all wrapped in one rifle. YMMV

 

[Crixus]

That's cool, some like to reload, some don't. Like I said, I'm kind of nerdy about it. It's not much cheaper, but my "custom" ammo is definitely better then anything of the shelf. As far as the AR/AK debate, I stay out of that one for the most part except to say that the AR platform doesn't suck as bad as many say, and the AK isn't as tough as many think. And the M14 or 1A if you like, awesome launch pad for the 308, nice mag fed auto loader if you reload as there is plenty of room in the mags, and you can tweak the gas as well, but again, it ain't all its made out to be. Then the .556/.223 being a lousy round. My gripes with it are it's propensity to explode on impact. On pigs, this has required fast follow up shots, but many times they don't run far. Deer in my area are not huge. 80+- pounds dressed maybe. As long as I can make a hole going in and coming out I'm happy. I tend to switch to a 30/30 for deer season, but I'm confident that the Bushi will drop them. Has before. As far as the 556 for personal defense, there are lots of dead Haji's who would beg to differ on the issue of it not being a good killer. But that doesn't really apply for me. If I'm shooting a bad guy it will likely be inside my house. Any human takes four or five shots to the chest with even the lightest varmint rounds inside of 20“ I just don't think they will continue to misbehave. And my rifle in its varmint caliber will out perform any hand gun in that aspect too. And it is cheap as well. In the end, if I really want what I shoot to be legs up right now I use an 1856 Enfield musketoon repro. You wanna see a piggie get knocked the hell out now try a .58 Cal minie ball on top of 60 grains of 3f place powder. Big hole going in and out.

 

[Divine Wind]

For those on the fence about the AK vs AR debate, there are plenty of links and videos pointing out the pros and cons on the Internet. Some are listed below.

As for reloading, that's a simple math problem: Find the cost per cartridge of your favorite, most frequently fired firearm then compare it to how many cartridges you'd have to reload to break even by adding up the investment cost of reloading equipment (press, dies, power, bullets, cleaning supplies, primers, etc).

AK-47 vs AR-15 - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

The AK-47 vs AR-15: Which Rifle is Better? - The Prepper Journal

Infographic: AK-47 vs. AR-15

 

[Crixus]

reloading isn't about cost for me really. As was pointed out, not much you can really do to save money on commie rounds or 556. for me, I like reloading allot, and in my mind I will make better ammo.

as for penetration, the commie round beats 556 here especially on hard stuff. I have yet to find a 223 bullet that won't come apart on bone. Bamford quick human kills if one has a bad shot, but if you can manage at least 12 inches into flesh your good. I don't dislike the AK, I just know and prefer the AR/M16.

 

[PredFan]

Watching Midway on TV, eating lamb chops, and making ammo!

'Merica!

 

[Crixus]

what kind of ammo you making there?