Gun nuts intimidate mothers in parking lot

[Vox]

And what is your problem?

It is legal to open carry long guns in Texas it is also legal to protest peacefully.

or it is only legal to protest for the leftard groups?

 

[koshergrl]

They're supposed to send the moms advance warning of their presence, so the moms won't be alarmed by the sight of weapons.

 

[koshergrl]

If the moms are that touchy, I wonder if maybe a ptsd group wouldn't be more fulfilling to them that a protest group.

 

[Warrior102]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/12/u...escalating-battle-over-texas-gun-culture.html

“I was terrified,” said the woman who helped coordinate the meeting and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because she said she feared for her safety. “They didn’t want to talk. They wanted to display force.”

The armed group of men, women and children was made up of members of a gun rights organization called Open Carry Texas, and they stayed in the parking lot about 10 or 15 minutes to protest the Moms Demand Action meeting and then left.

40 Armed Gun Advocates Intimidate Mothers Against Gun Violence In A Restaurant Parking Lot | ThinkProgress

According to a spokeswoman for Moms Demand Action (MDA), the moms were inside the Blue Mesa Grill when members of Open Carry Texas (OCT) — an open carry advocacy group — “pull[ed] up in the parking lot and start[ed] getting guns out of their trunks.” The group then waited in the parking lot for the four MDA members to come out. The spokeswoman said that the restaurant manager did not want to call 911, for fear of “inciting a riot” and waited for the gun advocates to leave. The group moved to a nearby Hooters after approximately two hours.

MDA later released a statement calling OCT “gun bullies” who “disagree[d] with our goal of changing America’s gun laws and policies to protect our children and families.” The statement added that the members and restaurant customers were “terrified by what appeared to be an armed ambush.” A member of OCT responded by tweeting, “I guess I’m a #gunbullies #Comeandtakeit.”

Open Carry Advocates Stand Outside Moms Against Gun Violence Meeting: Tell Us if You Think They Went Too Far | TheBlaze.com

Armed protesters rattle Texas moms' gun-control meeting

Police monitored the incident at the Blue Mesa Grill in Arlington, Texas, but took no action because it is legal to carry long guns openly in Texas.

"We are aware that a group did gather in a shopping area in Arlington Saturday," Tiara Ellis Richard of the Arlington Police office of communication said in an e-mail to USA TODAY. "Officers were notified and arrived at the location. There were no issues that we are aware of, and no arrests occurred."

A ticking time bomb.

So?

 

[PredFan]

So now exercising your right to prove a point in public is being an asshole?

It depends. In this case yes.

and trying to remove my rights is not being an asshole?

I support 2nd amendment rights just as much as you do, but I'm also honest enough to call a spade a spade. This was a completely assholish stunt. Wipe the bias from your eyes and maybe you'll let a little truth shine through.

As was pointed out in one of the links, they refused to meet and talk with the mothers. All they wanted was to scare people. And, in view of the daily gun death news articles, I'm sure they succeeded.

There are better ways of getting your point across. Better than appearing in a peaceful place and hauling out rifles.

BTW, this was in Texasss.

You just can't admit that you have been shown to be an utter fool. You should quit digging a bigger hole for yourself idiot.

 

[PredFan]

It depends. In this case yes.



I support 2nd amendment rights just as much as you do, but I'm also honest enough to call a spade a spade. This was a completely assholish stunt. Wipe the bias from your eyes and maybe you'll let a little truth shine through.

As was pointed out in one of the links, they refused to meet and talk with the mothers. All they wanted was to scare people. And, in view of the daily gun death news articles, I'm sure they succeeded.

There are better ways of getting your point across. Better than appearing in a peaceful place and hauling out rifles.

BTW, this was in Texasss.

yeah, where does it state that?

From one of the articles, however, there is this:

“The president of Open Carry Texas, CJ Grisham, is issuing an open invite and challenge to MDA President Shannon Watts to debate the issue of ‘gun sense’ (gun control) versus gun rights (supporting the Constitution). Since we are issuing the challenge, Shannon may pick anywhere in the State of Texas to hold the event and OCT will pay for the venue.

“We will also accept the Texas Chapter President of MDA if Shannon doesn’t feel intelligent or confident enough to handle an open debate. OCT will NOT be open carry at the event so MDA can feel safe and secure in its ignorance and false sense of safety. Shannon may email her response CJ directly from her official email to [email protected]. The ball is in your court,” the group wrote

Just keep lying luddy.

The moron keeps getting owned but is too stupid to know it.

 

[PredFan]

The biggest assholes are the people who try to take away the rights of others. There are no bigger assholes than that. Period.

 

[birddog]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/12/u...escalating-battle-over-texas-gun-culture.html

“I was terrified,” said the woman who helped coordinate the meeting and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because she said she feared for her safety. “They didn’t want to talk. They wanted to display force.”

The armed group of men, women and children was made up of members of a gun rights organization called Open Carry Texas, and they stayed in the parking lot about 10 or 15 minutes to protest the Moms Demand Action meeting and then left.

40 Armed Gun Advocates Intimidate Mothers Against Gun Violence In A Restaurant Parking Lot | ThinkProgress



Open Carry Advocates Stand Outside Moms Against Gun Violence Meeting: Tell Us if You Think They Went Too Far | TheBlaze.com

Armed protesters rattle Texas moms' gun-control meeting

Police monitored the incident at the Blue Mesa Grill in Arlington, Texas, but took no action because it is legal to carry long guns openly in Texas.

"We are aware that a group did gather in a shopping area in Arlington Saturday," Tiara Ellis Richard of the Arlington Police office of communication said in an e-mail to USA TODAY. "Officers were notified and arrived at the location. There were no issues that we are aware of, and no arrests occurred."

A ticking time bomb.

So?

The honey in your avatar would be far more dangerous for me!!

 

[Vox]

How are you any different from Southern Women in the 30's who were intimidated by the mere presence of black men?

Your irrational fear does not equate to intimidation.

perfect example

 

[PredFan]

I have no problem with people spreading their message, I do have a problem with people trying to disrupt the beliefs of others while they are doing so.

I'm sure [MENTION=45779]lakeview[/MENTION] will be along eventually to condemn Open Carry Texas for disrupting MDA's attempt to spread their message.

Thanks for the mention, I probably wouldn't have bothered to read this thread otherwise.

Come on marty, they were being assholes, plain and simple.

Just because something is within one's rights doesn't make it right.

I agree with you 100%. The only reason the Open Carry folks showed up where they did when they did was to screw with another groups meeting.

That's typical closed minded liberal non-thinking. The reason they showed up was to counter what the MDA was doing. You are a liberal a d not too bright so let me help you. Counter protests are commonplace, commonplace and completely legal. You lefties do it all the time.

No charge for the education.

 

[Vox]

Point taken but that does not change the fact that people have the right to being safe from armed gangs - no matter what their stated purpose is.

I would not knowingly sit in a restaurant with these people.

But, just like the rw hysteria over which bathroom transgender people are using, its very likely that I have been in restaurants where people were armed and did not know it.

As usual, the nutters want to protect their own rights at the expense of other people's rights.

they were safe.

If they have irrational anxiety attacks maybe they should see a psychiatrist?

 

[lakeview]

That's typical closed minded liberal non-thinking. The reason they showed up was to counter what the MDA was doing. You are a liberal a d not too bright so let me help you. Counter protests are commonplace, commonplace and completely legal. You lefties do it all the time.

No charge for the education.

If you, the Open Carry folks, or anyone else thinks that those mothers are a threat to firearms ownership or to carry of any kind in Texas then you are deluded. I know counter-protests are common but that doesn't make them good form and in this case I don't for a second believe that anyone was defending their right to carry because that right isn't in any danger.

 

[Yurt]

Good. Their intimidation was met with a higher level of intimidation. That's excellent. I'll intimidate anyone who tries to restrict my Constitutional rights.

Why do you fools insist on saying stupid crap like this?

This gang of heavily armed thugs in a parking lot outside a restaurant restricts other people's right to safety. Look at that photo.

The people who want to eat there as well as the owners of the restaurant and any passersby have the right to be safe from gangs of armed thugs.

OTOH, at least they have the gumption to open carry so people can choose to get to a safer place.

What's funny to me is that if they were all black, you hypocritical nutters would be screeching a different tune.

did they actually threaten anyone?

good lord you are beyond stupid and dishonest. i don't ever want to hear how you are not anti gun.

 

[Vox]

If you, the Open Carry folks, or anyone else thinks that those mothers are a threat to firearms ownership or to carry of any kind in Texas then you are deluded. I know counter-protests are common but that doesn't make them good form and in this case I don't for a second believe that anyone was defending their right to carry because that right isn't in any danger.

neither were the moms in any danger as well.

what's the problem?

 

[koshergrl]

That's typical closed minded liberal non-thinking. The reason they showed up was to counter what the MDA was doing. You are a liberal a d not too bright so let me help you. Counter protests are commonplace, commonplace and completely legal. You lefties do it all the time.

No charge for the education.

If you, the Open Carry folks, or anyone else thinks that those mothers are a threat to firearms ownership or to carry of any kind in Texas then you are deluded. I know counter-protests are common but that doesn't make them good form and in this case I don't for a second believe that anyone was defending their right to carry because that right isn't in any danger.

Of course they're a threat. They lobby for restrictions on our constitutional right to bear arms. They are a direct threat to our right to do so. So of course it's reasonable to let them know that we don't agree with them, and to show solidarity..because trust me, they are busy misrepresenting the shit out of us, and using their particular status as "moms" and "moms of dead children" to do it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you, the Open Carry folks, or anyone else thinks that those mothers are a threat to firearms ownership or to carry of any kind in Texas then you are deluded. I know counter-protests are common but that doesn't make them good form and in this case I don't for a second believe that anyone was defending their right to carry because that right isn't in any danger.

Those women were there for the express purpose of stripping civil rights from others.

Whether they were likely to be successful at that very moment is irrelevant. The shameful democrats have launched a full scale war on civil rights, and must be confronted at every offense.

The American seeks to revoke the bill of rights - yes, that makes them bad people.

 

[peach174]

That's typical closed minded liberal non-thinking. The reason they showed up was to counter what the MDA was doing. You are a liberal a d not too bright so let me help you. Counter protests are commonplace, commonplace and completely legal. You lefties do it all the time.

No charge for the education.

If you, the Open Carry folks, or anyone else thinks that those mothers are a threat to firearms ownership or to carry of any kind in Texas then you are deluded. I know counter-protests are common but that doesn't make them good form and in this case I don't for a second believe that anyone was defending their right to carry because that right isn't in any danger.

Yes they are.
Those Mom's want to Ban assault weapons and ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
They want to forbid anyone who walks into stores or coffee shops from open carry.
They want to ban online sales of guns and ammunition.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

That's typical closed minded liberal non-thinking. The reason they showed up was to counter what the MDA was doing. You are a liberal a d not too bright so let me help you. Counter protests are commonplace, commonplace and completely legal. You lefties do it all the time.

No charge for the education.

If you, the Open Carry folks, or anyone else thinks that those mothers are a threat to firearms ownership or to carry of any kind in Texas then you are deluded. I know counter-protests are common but that doesn't make them good form and in this case I don't for a second believe that anyone was defending their right to carry because that right isn't in any danger.

Did they hurt your feewings?

 

[TemplarKormac]

You know, if you have a problem with someone else's Constitutional right to bear arms, that's just too bad.

 

[WinterBorn]

Good. Their intimidation was met with a higher level of intimidation. That's excellent. I'll intimidate anyone who tries to restrict my Constitutional rights.

Why do you fools insist on saying stupid crap like this?

This gang of heavily armed thugs in a parking lot outside a restaurant restricts other people's right to safety. Look at that photo.

The people who want to eat there as well as the owners of the restaurant and any passersby have the right to be safe from gangs of armed thugs.

OTOH, at least they have the gumption to open carry so people can choose to get to a safer place.

What's funny to me is that if they were all black, you hypocritical nutters would be screeching a different tune.

Did they brandish they guns in a threatening manner or point them at anyone?

Or is the mere presence of firearms now considered threatening? These citizens can lawfully own and carry firearms. They were not there to rob or harm anyone. The threat is in the minds of the fearful, and not the problem of those who are not afraid of armed citizens.