Ghetto Culture: The Downward Spiral

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1. Cora Daniels, in writing "Ghettonation," set out to examine how 'ghetto' became chic for all of us. Not limited to class or race, it is found in the inner cities, as well as in the suburbs; among those too young to understand, as well as those old enough to know better; from little white houses with picket fences, all the way to the White House. It is packaged and sold in the form of music, TV, books, fashion, and movies. It is contagious, and no one is immune, no matter how we like to suck our teeth and shake our heads at what we think is happening someplace else.

2. Someplace else? Really? There was the time the blond no-talent bimbo Paris Hilton, with a sex tape under her belt, winds up with a reality show, "The Simple Life." During one episode, she couldn't get a rusty truck's engine to turn over, and she exclaims: "This truck is so ghetto."

a. According to Forbes, her inheritance is estimated to be $50 million....yet she is some sort of arbiter of what is or isn't 'ghetto.' That moment, sitting in my home in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, where sometimes I have to struggle to hear the TV over the constant bounce-your-head beat, and mamas cursing their babies, and the occasional gunshot outside of my door, that moment, I realized that 'ghetto' was something larger than anyone knew.




3. OK...I am ghetto. Movies to me are BYOF (Bring Your Own Food): what could be better than having some Popeye's chicken, a bottle of orange soda, and a 25 cent bag of Cheez Doodles while watching an overpriced movie? Yes, I sit on my front stoop rather than in my backyard. And, yes, I consider a plastic shopping bag an acceptable carryall.

4. No...I am not ghetto. I have a husband instead of babydaddies. I drive a car that is completely paid off but so nondescript that even I forget what it looks like sometimes. And when I drive and listen to music, I can still hear the passengers speaking in the backseat. I also own only one pair of sneakers.




5. I suppose that makes me a 'straddler'....I finished high school, and went on to college (yup, Cheez Doodle-lovin' self on an Ivy League campus). I accepted that I was ghetto when I went to grad school, and embraced that I was ghetto when I started working. I realized that I was not ghetto when I returned back home. In keeping-it-real tradition, I live in gritty city streets, but I recognize the ghetto choices around me, from talking trash too loud on the subway, to choosing TV over books, or snacking on KFC biscuits over anything else.

a. Ghetto reasoning, or lack of reasoning, means the making of choices that don't make sense. Standing on the corner, the center of the world, even for the smallest ones. I no longer understand why they want to.

b. Or why the cashier at the grocery store insists on keeping her intricately painted, acrylic-enhanced nails so obscenely long that she needs a pencil to press the keys of her register.

6. I'm a New Yorker, so the subway is part of my life. But, as a journalist, I love the subway because it is the raw material of my work. I see the young mothers with kids hanging off their arms like accessories. I see them late at night and think how these women have been able to preserve their lives exactly as they were before they had children. Over the years, the language has changed from 'brother' to '******,' and from 'sister' to '*****.' And you know the word that has replaced 'the' as the most commonly used term in the English language. The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing?




7. As the train passes through gentrified regions, the complexions get lighter...but nothing else changes.
From "Ghettonation," by Cora Daniels

Ghetto isn't limited to class or race.
 
this country is going to hell in a handbasket
 
these kids today

I'm always amazed at how Leftists are able to swallow any and every debilitation of society, with nary an eyebrow-shrug.

This must be why you find it so much easier than I to carry on.



Then, there's this, from Dennis Prager:

A distinguishing characteristic of Liberals and Leftists is an aversion to recognizing or acknowledging evil and its permutations, i.e., communism. On another level, it explains the LeftÂ’s dislike for capitalism, a system which produces winners and losers, a painful fact that the Left would rather not see.

Pacifism is the proclivity to appease evil and ignore the sad facts of life. It is a form of wishful thinking.
 
hating your fellow Americans will not win your party votes
 
hating your fellow Americans will not win your party votes

I notice that whenever I send a specific and/or detailed post in your direction, you respond with some vague and amorphous statement, along the lines of what one might expect from Forrest Gump, or Chauncey Gardiner.


You should learn to focus like a laser!

Don't you agree?
 
Ms. Daniels writes: "The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing?"


This is exactly the theme that Charles Murray has written about in "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010."

He states that one change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.

His advice: The elites must preach what they practice. And that means the constant reminders that there are ways to speak, to dress, to behave that lead to success.

It means to jettison the view that every lifestyle is just as good as another.



The upper class, the successful, the leaders of society, must preach what they practice.
 
Ms. Daniels writes: "The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing?"


This is exactly the theme that Charles Murray has written about in "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010."

He states that one change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.

His advice: The elites must preach what they practice. And that means the constant reminders that there are ways to speak, to dress, to behave that lead to success.

It means to jettison the view that every lifestyle is just as good as another.



The upper class, the successful, the leaders of society, must preach what they practice.

Oh brother. You again? You know what? I live in Brooklyn, in Kensington to be exact... it is not a gentrified neighborhood. I ride the subway every day with these people depicted in this blog (that you obviously (once again) don't comprehend). My neighborhood is heavily Russian, Polish, Middle Eastern (HEAVILY Middle Eastern), Indian and any other race you can think of including caucasian and Hassid. You really shouldn't (re-)post things you know nothing about, especially from one person's BLOG. Every ethnicity has its quirks and traditions. You want to know the loudest people on the train? It's the elder Chinese ladies. And ALL of the teenagers on the train are loud and obnoxious, regardless of whether they hail from ritzy Carroll Gardens or poor-as-shit Brownsville. I guess what I'm trying to say (once again...) is STFU about things you know NOTHING about.
 
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Ms. Daniels writes: "The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing?"


This is exactly the theme that Charles Murray has written about in "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010."

He states that one change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.

His advice: The elites must preach what they practice. And that means the constant reminders that there are ways to speak, to dress, to behave that lead to success.

It means to jettison the view that every lifestyle is just as good as another.



The upper class, the successful, the leaders of society, must preach what they practice.

Oh brother. You again? You know what? I live in Brooklyn, in Kensington to be exact... it is not a gentrified neighborhood. I ride the subway every day with these people depicted in this blog (that you obviously (once again) don't comprehend). My neighborhood is heavily Russian, Polish, Middle Eastern (HEAVILY Middle Eastern), Indian and any other race you can think of including caucasian and Hassid. You really shouldn't (re-)post things you know nothing about, especially from one person's BLOG. Every ethnicity has its quirks and traditions. You want to know the loudest people on the train? It's the elder Chinese ladies. And ALL of the teenagers on the train are loud and obnoxious, regardless of whether they hail from ritzy Carroll Gardens or poor-as-shit Brownsville. I guess what I'm trying to say (once again...) is STFU about things you know NOTHING about.


You again!! I should have anticipated your entry when the air suddenly became cold, and hordes of black flies appeared out of nowhere, and green slime began oozing out of the walls.


So...what was your task today?

To convince all that you are not only a moron, Â…galactically stupidÂ…...but that you are a failure at comprehending what you read, as well?

Mission accomplished!




From the OP:
" As the train passes through gentrified regions, the complexions get lighter...but nothing else changes."

From your reeking-with-stupidity post:
"And ALL of the teenagers on the train are loud and obnoxious, regardless of whether they hail from ritzy Carroll Gardens or poor-as-shit Brownsville."


Once again proving that you excel at discovering what has already been discovered!


Read between the lines:
In a tub of Preparation H, you'd shrink down to thumb size.
 
Um, idiot. Please respond to YOUR drivel I addressed in my post, about how the elites should "dictate" behaviour. Good god, you're a moron. Obviously, I am not the one with reading comprehension issues (for example, no one would consider the WASPS from Carroll gardens as "ghetto").

Ms. Daniels writes: "The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing?"

This is exactly the theme that Charles Murray has written about in "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010."

He states that one change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.

His advice: The elites must preach what they practice. And that means the constant reminders that there are ways to speak, to dress, to behave that lead to success.
It means to jettison the view that every lifestyle is just as good as another.


The upper class, the successful, the leaders of society, must preach what they practice.

The State of White America? Holy shit... are these supposed to be the "elite" in your cut and paste idiocy?
 
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Um, idiot. Please respond to YOUR drivel I addressed in my post, about how the elites should "dictate" behaviour. Good god, you're a moron. Obviously, I am not the one with reading comprehension issues (for example, no one would consider the WASPS from Carroll gardens as "ghetto").

Ms. Daniels writes: "The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing?"

This is exactly the theme that Charles Murray has written about in "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010."

He states that one change in societal attitude has been the “ecumenical niceness”…don’t fight, share toys, take turns….and never, ever be judgmental. As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.

His advice: The elites must preach what they practice. And that means the constant reminders that there are ways to speak, to dress, to behave that lead to success.
It means to jettison the view that every lifestyle is just as good as another.


The upper class, the successful, the leaders of society, must preach what they practice.

The State of White America? Holy shit... are these supposed to be the "elite" in your cut and paste idiocy?



What?

You want to run away from this??

From the OP:
" As the train passes through gentrified regions, the complexions get lighter...but nothing else changes."

From your reeking-with-stupidity post:
"And ALL of the teenagers on the train are loud and obnoxious, regardless of whether they hail from ritzy Carroll Gardens or poor-as-shit Brownsville."


In the words of the Brown Bomber:

"You can run, but you can't hide."
 
What?

You want to run away from this??

From the OP:
" As the train passes through gentrified regions, the complexions get lighter...but nothing else changes."

From your reeking-with-stupidity post:
"And ALL of the teenagers on the train are loud and obnoxious, regardless of whether they hail from ritzy Carroll Gardens or poor-as-shit Brownsville."


In the words of the Brown Bomber:

"You can run, but you can't hide."

Good god, you are so dense. *sigh* In the first post, she/you (since you have not one original thought in your jobless head) called all the kids "ghetto". YOU posted that all the "successful elites" should dictate behaviour to these "ghetto" kids (ghetto meaning BLACK or "black acting", obviously - did you even read that opinion blog?) - and to dictate that their lifestyles (aka cultures & ethnicities) are, ahem, unacceptable. Not all kids horsing around and making noise are "ghetto", as I pointed out. Moron. Your sentence and my sentence are in two separate contexts. Again, moron.

From your post:

The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing
 
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What?

You want to run away from this??

From the OP:
" As the train passes through gentrified regions, the complexions get lighter...but nothing else changes."

From your reeking-with-stupidity post:
"And ALL of the teenagers on the train are loud and obnoxious, regardless of whether they hail from ritzy Carroll Gardens or poor-as-shit Brownsville."


In the words of the Brown Bomber:

"You can run, but you can't hide."

Good god, you are so dense. *sigh* In the first post, she/you (since you have not one original thought in your jobless head) called all the kids "ghetto". YOU posted that all the "successful elites" should dictate behaviour to these "ghetto" kids (ghetto meaning BLACK or "black acting", obviously - did you even read that opinion blog?) - and to dictate that their lifestyles (aka cultures & ethnicities) are, ahem, unacceptable. Not all kids horsing around and making noise are "ghetto", as I pointed out. Moron. Your sentence and my sentence are in two separate contexts. Again, moron.

From your post:

The adults just shake their heads, a few dare to shoot dirty looks at the young people....but no one tells the kids to curb their tongues. So, who is more ghetto, the teenagers who don't know any better, or the rest of us who do and say nothing


What?

You don't want to confess to being a total idiot?

Don't worry about it.....heck, everyone knows already!


I donÂ’t dislike you personallyÂ…itÂ’s just that IÂ’m a member of the Partnership For An Idiot Free America, so youÂ’re on my list.
 
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So, what do you propose, 'Chic? Nuke the 'hoods'?

Myself, I wouldn't even call the attributes you mention 'culture', just as I don't see much grafitti as 'art' or much rap as 'music'. At most, it is 'junk culture', short-lived and due to be thrown out very soon. How long can pants that fall down and backwards baseball caps last? OK, for me it is already too long, but it can't go on forever (please, someone assure me!).

Making all this into some sort of martyr, though, will only prolong it. Let this unprocessed fertilizer go its way.
 
So, what do you propose, 'Chic? Nuke the 'hoods'?

Myself, I wouldn't even call the attributes you mention 'culture', just as I don't see much grafitti as 'art' or much rap as 'music'. At most, it is 'junk culture', short-lived and due to be thrown out very soon. How long can pants that fall down and backwards baseball caps last? OK, for me it is already too long, but it can't go on forever (please, someone assure me!).

Making all this into some sort of martyr, though, will only prolong it. Let this unprocessed fertilizer go its way.


I hate to give you a serious answer, as the opposite has always been so much fun....but this is a serious matter.

In Murray's book, mentioned earlier, he argues that, while the upper classes have abandoned the kinds of behavior that is disastrous for success in life ....they still largely pretend to endorse same.

As a result, the upper cultural class, which has stabilized by returning to more traditional ways, survives, yet these individuals will not criticize the behaviors which are destroying the lower cultural class.

a. “For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage” http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html

b. “One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, …” Ibid.


Conservatives faced pop culture contumely for warning about same.
For a glimpse at what was championed earlier.....


"IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, DAN QUAYLE DESERVES POINTS for audacity. In modern America taking on a popular TV character, even a fictional one, is politically more precarious than taking a clear stand on a substantive campaign issue. And yet the Vice President dared to argue last week in a San Francisco speech that the Los Angeles riots were caused in part by a "poverty of values" that included the acceptance of unwed motherhood, as celebrated in popular culture by the CBS comedy series Murphy Brown."
Dan Quayle vs. Murphy Brown - TIME


There are hordes of fools who still cannot read the handwriting on the wall.
 
The only thing Quayle could possible merit 'points' for is for being so evidently absent from the scene since the embarassing epoch that he was VP. I don't consider him a positive reference for a poster.
 
Pants falling down sure look dumb to me.

Then too, so does cowboy hats and big belt buckles.
 
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