GDP misses on Q4

[Marener]

Supposedly things can't possibly get any better according to Trump, except perhaps any of the objective economic data.

Real GDP growth in Q4 is only 1.4%. On the year, GDP growth was 2.2%. This is down a little from GDP growth in 2024 which was 2.4%, and that was supposedly a total disaster.

The economy this year is a lot shakier than the economy last year and this is another data point to show this.

Fourth-quarter U.S. GDP up just 1.4%, badly missing estimate; inflation firms at 3%

The core PCE price index was expected to increase 3% from a year ago in December. GDP was projected to rise at a 2.5% pace in Q4.

www.cnbc.com

GDP (Advance Estimate), 4th Quarter and Year 2025 | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 1.4 percent in the fourth quarter of 2025 (October, November, and December), according to the advance estimate released today by the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP increased 4.4 percent.

www.bea.gov

 

[Hafar1014]

Remember democrats shut down the government and disrupted the economy lowering GDP

 

[Marener]

Remember democrats shut down the government and disrupted the economy lowering GDP

Please explain how the government shut down disrupted the economy and lowered GDP.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Remember democrats shut down the government and disrupted the economy lowering GDP

Both parties disagreed, so there was a shutdown.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Please explain how the government shut down disrupted the economy and lowered GDP.

Please explain that after considering the impact of the shutdown, the GDP was still low.

 

[Hafar1014]

Both parties disagreed, so there was a shutdown.

Democrats shut down the government then and again today because all they can do is obstruct they have no solutions since they create all our problems

 

[Marener]

Democrats shut down the government then and again today because all they can do is obstruct they have no solutions since they create all our problems

Again, please explain how the government shut down caused GDP to be lower.

 

[Hafar1014]

Please explain that after considering the impact of the shutdown, the GDP was still low.

Travel is disrupted millions in wages are not paid. People stop spending

 

[Marener]

Please explain that after considering the impact of the shutdown, the GDP was still low.

I mean, he's not wrong about the shutdown reducing GDP.

But the exact same thing goes for any reduction in government spending. Government spending is part of GDP.

They don't want to admit that they're complaining about doing the thing they want to do.

 

[Marener]

Travel is disrupted millions in wages are not paid. People stop spending

Travel was not disrupted.

Government wages were not paid, that's true. However, you guys badly want to cut millions of government jobs anyway, so the effect of your desired policy is to reduce GDP.

 

[Hafar1014]

Travel was not disrupted.

Government wages were not paid, that's true. However, you guys badly want to cut millions of government jobs anyway, so the effect of your desired policy is to reduce GDP.

Yes it was I was traveling at the time. thousands of flights were canceled it was total nightmare

 

[drudge X]

Again, please explain how the government shut down caused GDP to be lower.

You need someone to explain this common sense to you?

 

[Marener]

Yes it was I was traveling at the time. thousands of flights were canceled it was total nightmare

Hey, you're right, I was wrong. But the effect was tiny compared to the whole government. Estimates is $6 billion.

It's nice to see you guys admit that your goals of reducing government spending will lower GDP.

 

[Marener]

You need someone to explain this common sense to you?

I just want to hear you guys explain that reductions in government spending will shrink the economy.

Because whenever I bring this up, the right freaks out and hides from common sense.

 

[Hafar1014]

You need someone to explain this common sense to you?

Millions of wages not paid travel disrupted people stopped spending

 

[drudge X]

I just want to hear you guys explain that reductions in government spending will shrink the economy.

Because whenever I bring this up, the right freaks out and hides from common sense.

Why aren’t you putting your common sense to work then? As Conservative Georgia pointed out that despite the long shut down, the GDP is doing extremely well. If that the case, then you should be advocating gutting more useless government workers.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Why was the forecast 3%?

I just want to hear you guys explain that reductions in government spending will shrink the economy.

Because whenever I bring this up, the right freaks out and hides from common sense.

Why was the forecast 3% including shutdown effects and why why did miss so much?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Millions of wages not paid travel disrupted people stopped spending

That doesn’t explain why there was a 3% expected GDP that included the shutdown effects, and it came at 1.4%. Why was it 1.4 instead of 3? what explains the large miss when the shutdown was already baked in?

 

[Rawley]

Travel was not disrupted.

Not in mom's basement, evidently.

 

[Marener]

Why aren’t you putting your common sense to work then? As Conservative Georgia pointed out that despite the long shut down, the GDP is doing extremely well. If that the case, then you should be advocating gutting more useless government workers.

GDP is was doing significantly better under Biden.

2024 was better on almost every metric but was considered a total disaster by the right.