Gaza army

[Hollie]

Hamas is training 25,000 new fighters in gaza

Their way of planning for peace????

"Si vis pacem, para bellum".

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.​

Neither do the Fatah forces ruling the West Bank. But that is another story for another day.

Palestine has no army. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. are civilian militias. They are civilians defending their country.

What does the Geneva Conventions say about civilians defending their country? Interesting question.

Hamas has a military wing, thus your making excuses for Islamist terrorism is weak.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hamas is training 25,000 new fighters in gaza

Their way of planning for peace????

"Si vis pacem, para bellum".

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.​

Neither do the Fatah forces ruling the West Bank. But that is another story for another day.

Palestine has no army. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. are civilian militias. They are civilians defending their country.

What does the Geneva Conventions say about civilians defending their country? Interesting question.

Hamas has a military wing, thus your making excuses for Islamist terrorism is weak.

Hamas is a political party. It is not a government.

 

[Humanity]

A link to what doesn't exist?

You suffer from Shaken Baby Syndrome, right?

Do you believe that the Supreme Court of Israel is telling lies then when they say that Israel a "belligerent occupier"?

Are you aware that Israel does not occupy Gaza'istan or the West Bank?

Have you sought treatment for your condition?

I am aware that Israel does not occupy any of Gaza... Simply maintains control over air, land and sea.

Israel occupies WB, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem...

Irrefutable facts that everyone seems to accept, including Supreme Court of Israel...

Israel controls portions of the West Bank as do the islamics. You have no issue with islamist occupation.

Golan was seized as result of a failed war of aggression by Islamics.

Since when is East Jerusalem an Islamist waqf?

Congratulations on the back pedal and admitting that WB and Golan are occupied...

Now you just gotta get your heard around East Jerusalem being occupied...

 

[Hollie]

Hamas is training 25,000 new fighters in gaza

Their way of planning for peace????

"Si vis pacem, para bellum".

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.​

Neither do the Fatah forces ruling the West Bank. But that is another story for another day.

Palestine has no army. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. are civilian militias. They are civilians defending their country.

What does the Geneva Conventions say about civilians defending their country? Interesting question.

Hamas has a military wing, thus your making excuses for Islamist terrorism is weak.

Hamas is a political party. It is not a government.

So, for conveniences sake and to avoid having to take responsibility for Islamic terrorism, Hamas is not an elected entity charged with governing?

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Si vis pacem, para bellum".

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.​

Neither do the Fatah forces ruling the West Bank. But that is another story for another day.

Palestine has no army. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. are civilian militias. They are civilians defending their country.

What does the Geneva Conventions say about civilians defending their country? Interesting question.

Hamas has a military wing, thus your making excuses for Islamist terrorism is weak.

Hamas is a political party. It is not a government.

So, for conveniences sake and to avoid having to take responsibility for Islamic terrorism, Hamas is not an elected entity charged with governing?

Hamas was the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

 

[Hollie]

A link to what doesn't exist?

You suffer from Shaken Baby Syndrome, right?

Do you believe that the Supreme Court of Israel is telling lies then when they say that Israel a "belligerent occupier"?

Are you aware that Israel does not occupy Gaza'istan or the West Bank?

Have you sought treatment for your condition?

I am aware that Israel does not occupy any of Gaza... Simply maintains control over air, land and sea.

Israel occupies WB, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem...

Irrefutable facts that everyone seems to accept, including Supreme Court of Israel...

Israel controls portions of the West Bank as do the islamics. You have no issue with islamist occupation.

Golan was seized as result of a failed war of aggression by Islamics.

Since when is East Jerusalem an Islamist waqf?

Congratulations on the back pedal and admitting that WB and Golan are occupied...

Now you just gotta get your heard around East Jerusalem being occupied...

No backpedal. Just giving you the facts. The Golan being a spoil of war suggests no occupation. The West Bank is disputed territory.

Obviously your definition of occupation differs when applied to Islamic terrorists.

 

[Hollie]

Then why is the arab world so afraid that Israel might have a nuclear weapon?
Why do they object to Israel arming and controlling it's border and building fences and wall?
Why object to Israel controlling the 'free' flow of weapons into gaza?

they too are prepared if gaza attacks again

Gaza does not have the right to form it's own army. Any authorization for that would come from the PA.

Please don't give me that nonsense of gaza be voted to government. They were voted for seats in parliament, not to unilaterally take actions of military force or triggering a war with Israel. Gaza was taken by force.
Hamas' actions should have nullified any participation in parliament.
PLO renounced terrorism in 1988. Hamas is viewed as a terrorist group even by the PLO and is not a member.
Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.

Gaza does not have the legal authority to 'prepare for war'. They should not be armed at all.
It does not have a right to act on it's own at all

Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.​

Neither do the Fatah forces ruling the West Bank. But that is another story for another day.

Palestine has no army. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. are civilian militias. They are civilians defending their country.

What does the Geneva Conventions say about civilians defending their country? Interesting question.

Hamas has a military wing, thus your making excuses for Islamist terrorism is weak.

Hamas is a political party. It is not a government.

So, for conveniences sake and to avoid having to take responsibility for Islamic terrorism, Hamas is not an elected entity charged with governing?

Hamas was the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

Were they elected to govern?

 

[Humanity]

Do you believe that the Supreme Court of Israel is telling lies then when they say that Israel a "belligerent occupier"?

Are you aware that Israel does not occupy Gaza'istan or the West Bank?

Have you sought treatment for your condition?

I am aware that Israel does not occupy any of Gaza... Simply maintains control over air, land and sea.

Israel occupies WB, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem...

Irrefutable facts that everyone seems to accept, including Supreme Court of Israel...

Israel controls portions of the West Bank as do the islamics. You have no issue with islamist occupation.

Golan was seized as result of a failed war of aggression by Islamics.

Since when is East Jerusalem an Islamist waqf?

Congratulations on the back pedal and admitting that WB and Golan are occupied...

Now you just gotta get your heard around East Jerusalem being occupied...

No backpedal. Just giving you the facts. The Golan being a spoil of war suggests no occupation. The West Bank is disputed territory.

Obviously your definition of occupation differs when applied to Islamic terrorists.

Obviously your definition of occupation differs to the rest of the world (Oh except Israel's of course. But, you wouldn't expect the occupier to admit it would you!)

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hamas does not have the right to act without parliaments approval.​

Neither do the Fatah forces ruling the West Bank. But that is another story for another day.

Palestine has no army. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. are civilian militias. They are civilians defending their country.

What does the Geneva Conventions say about civilians defending their country? Interesting question.

Hamas has a military wing, thus your making excuses for Islamist terrorism is weak.

Hamas is a political party. It is not a government.

So, for conveniences sake and to avoid having to take responsibility for Islamic terrorism, Hamas is not an elected entity charged with governing?

Hamas was the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

Were they elected to govern?

Palestinian March 2007 National Unity Government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

There is a lot in here that does not hold up to scrutiny but it does show the basic structure.

 

[Hollie]

Are you aware that Israel does not occupy Gaza'istan or the West Bank?

Have you sought treatment for your condition?

I am aware that Israel does not occupy any of Gaza... Simply maintains control over air, land and sea.

Israel occupies WB, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem...

Irrefutable facts that everyone seems to accept, including Supreme Court of Israel...

Israel controls portions of the West Bank as do the islamics. You have no issue with islamist occupation.

Golan was seized as result of a failed war of aggression by Islamics.

Since when is East Jerusalem an Islamist waqf?

Congratulations on the back pedal and admitting that WB and Golan are occupied...

Now you just gotta get your heard around East Jerusalem being occupied...

No backpedal. Just giving you the facts. The Golan being a spoil of war suggests no occupation. The West Bank is disputed territory.

Obviously your definition of occupation differs when applied to Islamic terrorists.

Obviously your definition of occupation differs to the rest of the world (Oh except Israel's of course. But, you wouldn't expect the occupier to admit it would you!)

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

By what authority do your heroes in Hamas, an Islamic terrorist group and Pali squatters have to occupy portions of the West Bank?

Your definitions are skewed only to placate your insensate Joooooo hatreds. You always have the option to reannounce your allegiance to Islamic terrorism and pick up an AK-47, wannabe.

 

[Humanity]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

 

[Hollie]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

What "rest of the world"? You make these silly comments, totally unsupported and then backpedal when you're required to support them.

So, you backpeddled on defining who, exactly, gave the Pali squatters an entitlement to occupy parts of Gaza.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

 

[Hollie]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

And the UN considers Israel as "oppressing" women in Gaza as opposed to a politico-religious ideology with a 1,400 year history of true oppression of women.

Anything from the UN about the islamist occupation of portions of the West Bank?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

You, Tinmore, consider the whole of Israel to be occupied, so your opinion doesn't count.

 

[Humanity]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

What "rest of the world"? You make these silly comments, totally unsupported and then backpedal when you're required to support them.

So, you backpeddled on defining who, exactly, gave the Pali squatters an entitlement to occupy parts of Gaza.

hahahahaha...

Supported well enough Mr Occupation Denier!

No back pedaling here Hollie...

Want me to post ALL those links again? Surely not... hahahahahaha

 

[Hollie]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

What "rest of the world"? You make these silly comments, totally unsupported and then backpedal when you're required to support them.

So, you backpeddled on defining who, exactly, gave the Pali squatters an entitlement to occupy parts of Gaza.

hahahahaha...

Supported well enough Mr Occupation Denier!

No back pedaling here Hollie...

Want me to post ALL those links again? Surely not... hahahahahaha

I knew you would shuffle off when required to support your pointless "... rest of the world", nonsense.

You should consider trying out for the islamic terrorist swim team - the backstroke.

 

[Challenger]

Bleipriester, Roudy, et al,

As a coherent political policy concerning Palestine (the 1988 State of), Israel does not have a real firm future objective.

While the various political parties have their individual agendas, and positions, a collectively Israeli Foreign Policy really has not been formulated.

Israels long term agenda is the end of a Palestine area, so why should any Palestinian consider serious agreements with Israel?

(COMMENT)

The Israelis agree on the need to survive the long standing Arab Palestinian objective to evict the Jewish State. But much beyond that, the Israelis still are debating the future of their state and how it will develop regional relations.

The Arab Palestinians have formulated a long-term foreign policy based on the re-acquisition of the territory they believe is "their territory" as outlined by the Palestine Order in Council; within the boundaries determined by the Principal Allied Powers on the surrender of the Ottoman Empire. This has not changed substantially since 1948. And this is the contention the Israelis are still dealing with today.

As of yet, there is no reasonable expectation that any agreement made today with the Arab Palestinian will be honored for any length of time. The past history and behaviors of the Arab Palestinian has demonstrated that any agreed upon peace will be short term until the Arab Palestinians as mustered enough military might and political support to make another act of aggression to (in their eyes) liberate the territorial boundaries they consider their sovereign right; even though they have nothing that grants them that sovereign right.

The Arab Palestinians have made a solemn oath to continue the conflict until they liberate what they consider as Palestine. And until they abdicate that oath, they can be expected to be contained.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even Arafat wasn't negotiating in good faith, which is why the peace deal during Clinton's years fell apart. It hasn't been as much about establishing this mythical Palestine, as much as the desire to destroy the Jewish state. At its heart this conflict is about religious ideology and will remain so.

There is no jewish state.

Israel is a Jewish state and will always be. Deal with it, you asylum escapee.

Israel has not and is not and will not be a "jewish" state. From what I read its a secular state.

Not according to Nutandyahoo and his cronies, "ein volk, ein reich...." you know the rest. Zionist Israel is a Herrenvolk Democracy, Herrenvolk democracy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Humanity]

I wasn't aware you were tasked with offering definitions on behalf of the rest of the world.

No definition offerings required...

The rest of the world has already decided...

Including Supreme Court of Israel...

Keep back pedaling Hollie... It's great to watch!

What "rest of the world"? You make these silly comments, totally unsupported and then backpedal when you're required to support them.

So, you backpeddled on defining who, exactly, gave the Pali squatters an entitlement to occupy parts of Gaza.

hahahahaha...

Supported well enough Mr Occupation Denier!

No back pedaling here Hollie...

Want me to post ALL those links again? Surely not... hahahahahaha

I knew you would shuffle off when required to support your pointless "... rest of the world", nonsense.

You should consider trying out for the islamic terrorist swim team - the backstroke.

Schmuck!

Humanity Page 6 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Status of territories captured by Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
UN Security Council Calls for Lifting of Israeli Siege and Occupation - International Middle East Media Center
Court orders Israel s Finance Ministry to release report boycott could cost Israel 10 billion a year

You already seen these from another thread where you denied any "occupation"

How many countries have an embassy in Jerusalem? Not one!

Israel declared Jerusalem as it's capital... Not a single country recognises Jerusalem as the capital of Israel... Not even the USA!

Do you know why? Simply that East Jerusalem is under Israeli occupation...

Get pedaling Hollie...

 

[Challenger]

A link to what doesn't exist?

You suffer from Shaken Baby Syndrome, right?

Do you believe that the Supreme Court of Israel is telling lies then when they say that Israel a "belligerent occupier"?

Are you aware that Israel does not occupy Gaza'istan or the West Bank?

Have you sought treatment for your condition?

Actually some areas of the West Bank are still controlled by Israel. For instance, 80% of Hebron is controlled by Palestine and 20% by Israel. There are 3 areas in the West Bank, reflecting varying degrees of control.

Most of the Jordan valley is also a "military zone" or "firing zone" or "security zone" http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_firing_zone_factsheet_august_2012_english.pdf