Gavin the Gun Lover

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Yes sir he was just misunderstood......

Here’s Gov. Newsom’s problem. We have the receipts. Heck, everyone has the receipts. The firearm industry hasn’t forgotten the time California Attorney General Rob Bonta – working for Gov. Newsom -“leaked” the personal information of every California concealed carry permit holder. Gov. Newsom’s self-professed affinity for the Second Amendment is about as hollow as former Vice President Kamala Harris’ attempt to side with gun owners by saying she own’s a GLOCK handgun.

Proposed 28​

Perhaps Gov. Newsom thinks no one remembers his failed publicity stunt to nullify the Second Amendment with a proposed 28th Amendment. In 2023,
 
Gavin is getting the attention he needs, if only on this board.

But he still has to soundly put down the defunct Demo party and lead a new charge. He doesn't have much time left before the fascist regime begins to assert it's new powers.

Is the clever enough to lead a new America against the fascist threat?
Or is he just another darling of the moneyed class that caused the fascism problem in the first place?
 
Gavin is getting the attention he needs, if only on this board.

But he still has to soundly put down the defunct Demo party and lead a new charge. He doesn't have much time left before the fascist regime begins to assert it's new powers.

Is the clever enough to lead a new America against the fascist threat?
Or is he just another darling of the moneyed class that caused the fascism problem in the first place?
Despite the finest lies from the right, the Democratic party is not defunct and Gavin Newsom will probably not be the presidential candidate. Democrats aren't going to vote for a candidate who continues trying to pander to the right. If Newsom ends up the nominee, we'll see another election where 86 million people won't vote.
 
Yes sir he was just misunderstood......

Here’s Gov. Newsom’s problem. We have the receipts. Heck, everyone has the receipts. The firearm industry hasn’t forgotten the time California Attorney General Rob Bonta – working for Gov. Newsom -“leaked” the personal information of every California concealed carry permit holder. Gov. Newsom’s self-professed affinity for the Second Amendment is about as hollow as former Vice President Kamala Harris’ attempt to side with gun owners by saying she own’s a GLOCK handgun.

Proposed 28​

Perhaps Gov. Newsom thinks no one remembers his failed publicity stunt to nullify the Second Amendment with a proposed 28th Amendment. In 2023,
Okay, I will quote from your link and then unpack it.

His proposed amendment would have codified a national age-based gun ban by raising the minimum age to buy a firearm to 21 from 18. It would have also mandated universal background checks, which are unworkable without a national firearm registry. That’s prohibited by federal law. And the amendment would have also implemented a mandatory waiting period for all firearm purchases, immediately delaying the ability of law-abiding Americans to exercise their rights. It would have also banned ownership of Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs), or as California’s antigun politicians falsely label them – “assault weapons.”


California has a firearm death rate of 8.0 per 100,000. The United States has a firearm death rate of 13.7. It looks to me like we may have something to learn from California.



"unworkable without a national firearm registry".

Well, I would say that's exactly why Newsom proposed an amendment to the Constitution. It would be applicable to the whole country. Duh!

Universal background checks are overwhelmingly supported by Americans, including gun owners. Only the rabid NRA opposes them for God know why. They used to support gun control measures in the past.


"It would have also banned ownership of Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs)".

"Sporting Rifles" snicker

I have never seen anyone hunt with an AR-15 except for other humans and pests. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but an AWB would not bring hunting to a screeching halt.




"raising the minimum age to buy a firearm to 21 from 18"

I wonder how many more school shootings it will take for the holdout knuckleheads to see the wisdom of this idea.

If a kid wants to go hunting with dad, or plink some cans with dad, I have no problem supporting a carve-out allowing adult supervision while using a firearm.

I've taken all my kids out shooting, including with an AR-15. From the age of 6. And I intensely schooled them in gun safety beforehand. Literally with a chalkboard. More than once.




Now I have a couple links of my own:

Poll: A majority of Americans support universal background checks, gun licensing and an assault weapons ban

The McCourtney Institute for Democracy’s latest Mood of the Nation Poll, conducted from May 12-18, 2023, finds that 86 percent of American adults support U.S. Congress mandating background checks for all firearm sales and transfers.

Nearly three-quarters support Congress requiring gun owners to take a test, obtain a license and register their firearms, similar to the process of owning an automobile.
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[snip]
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It is noteworthy that the three firearm-restricting provisions included in this poll are supported by a majority of those who support eliminating “most current gun laws in order to protect Second Amendment rights.” Among these Second Amendment advocates, 77 percent support universal background checks, 60 percent support a testing, licensing and registering process for guns similar to that of automobiles, and 52 percent support an assault weapons ban.





Nearly 3 Out Of 4 Support Raising Legal Age To Buy Any Gun


Americans support 74 - 24 percent raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll of adults released today. Democrats (91 - 7 percent), independents (76 - 22 percent), and Republicans (59 - 39 percent) all support raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide.
 
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did the school shooters get their guns or steal them from home.....
 
Despite the finest lies from the right, the Democratic party is not defunct and Gavin Newsom will probably not be the presidential candidate. Democrats aren't going to vote for a candidate who continues trying to pander to the right. If Newsom ends up the nominee, we'll see another election where 86 million people won't vote.

I'm glad you're finally admitting that you believe supporting civil rights is "pandering to the right".

I knew you Nazis would let the mask slip eventually!
 
Okay, I will quote from your link and then unpack it.

His proposed amendment would have codified a national age-based gun ban by raising the minimum age to buy a firearm to 21 from 18. It would have also mandated universal background checks, which are unworkable without a national firearm registry. That’s prohibited by federal law. And the amendment would have also implemented a mandatory waiting period for all firearm purchases, immediately delaying the ability of law-abiding Americans to exercise their rights. It would have also banned ownership of Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs), or as California’s antigun politicians falsely label them – “assault weapons.”


California has a firearm death rate of 8.0 per 100,000. The United States has a firearm death rate of 13.7. It looks to me like we may have something to learn from California.



"unworkable without a national firearm registry".

Well, I would say that's exactly why Newsom proposed an amendment to the Constitution. It would be applicable to the whole country. Duh!

Universal background checks are overwhelmingly supported by Americans, including gun owners. Only the rabid NRA opposes them for God know why. They used to support gun control measures in the past.


"It would have also banned ownership of Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs)".

"Sporting Rifles" snicker

I have never seen anyone hunt with an AR-15 except for other humans and pests. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but an AWB would not bring hunting to a screeching halt.




"raising the minimum age to buy a firearm to 21 from 18"

I wonder how many more school shootings it will take for the holdout knuckleheads to see the wisdom of this idea.

If a kid wants to go hunting with dad, or plink some cans with dad, I have no problem supporting a carve-out allowing adult supervision while using a firearm.

I've taken all my kids out shooting, including with an AR-15. From the age of 6. And I intensely schooled them in gun safety beforehand. Literally with a chalkboard. More than once.




Now I have a couple links of my own:

Poll: A majority of Americans support universal background checks, gun licensing and an assault weapons ban

The McCourtney Institute for Democracy’s latest Mood of the Nation Poll, conducted from May 12-18, 2023, finds that 86 percent of American adults support U.S. Congress mandating background checks for all firearm sales and transfers.

Nearly three-quarters support Congress requiring gun owners to take a test, obtain a license and register their firearms, similar to the process of owning an automobile.
.
[snip]
.
It is noteworthy that the three firearm-restricting provisions included in this poll are supported by a majority of those who support eliminating “most current gun laws in order to protect Second Amendment rights.” Among these Second Amendment advocates, 77 percent support universal background checks, 60 percent support a testing, licensing and registering process for guns similar to that of automobiles, and 52 percent support an assault weapons ban.





Nearly 3 Out Of 4 Support Raising Legal Age To Buy Any Gun


Americans support 74 - 24 percent raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll of adults released today. Democrats (91 - 7 percent), independents (76 - 22 percent), and Republicans (59 - 39 percent) all support raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide.
CA leads the nation in school shootings

Most school shootings shooter took a parents weapon
 
CA leads the nation in school shootings

Most school shootings shooter took a parents weapon
A family member, not just parents.

One pair of parents has been held accountable and are in prison.

But I get your point.


That is a shocking number of school shootings.
 
Okay, I will quote from your link and then unpack it.

His proposed amendment would have codified a national age-based gun ban by raising the minimum age to buy a firearm to 21 from 18. It would have also mandated universal background checks, which are unworkable without a national firearm registry. That’s prohibited by federal law. And the amendment would have also implemented a mandatory waiting period for all firearm purchases, immediately delaying the ability of law-abiding Americans to exercise their rights. It would have also banned ownership of Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs), or as California’s antigun politicians falsely label them – “assault weapons.”


California has a firearm death rate of 8.0 per 100,000. The United States has a firearm death rate of 13.7. It looks to me like we may have something to learn from California.



"unworkable without a national firearm registry".

Well, I would say that's exactly why Newsom proposed an amendment to the Constitution. It would be applicable to the whole country. Duh!

Universal background checks are overwhelmingly supported by Americans, including gun owners. Only the rabid NRA opposes them for God know why. They used to support gun control measures in the past.


"It would have also banned ownership of Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs)".

"Sporting Rifles" snicker

I have never seen anyone hunt with an AR-15 except for other humans and pests. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but an AWB would not bring hunting to a screeching halt.




"raising the minimum age to buy a firearm to 21 from 18"

I wonder how many more school shootings it will take for the holdout knuckleheads to see the wisdom of this idea.

If a kid wants to go hunting with dad, or plink some cans with dad, I have no problem supporting a carve-out allowing adult supervision while using a firearm.

I've taken all my kids out shooting, including with an AR-15. From the age of 6. And I intensely schooled them in gun safety beforehand. Literally with a chalkboard. More than once.




Now I have a couple links of my own:

Poll: A majority of Americans support universal background checks, gun licensing and an assault weapons ban

The McCourtney Institute for Democracy’s latest Mood of the Nation Poll, conducted from May 12-18, 2023, finds that 86 percent of American adults support U.S. Congress mandating background checks for all firearm sales and transfers.

Nearly three-quarters support Congress requiring gun owners to take a test, obtain a license and register their firearms, similar to the process of owning an automobile.
.
[snip]
.
It is noteworthy that the three firearm-restricting provisions included in this poll are supported by a majority of those who support eliminating “most current gun laws in order to protect Second Amendment rights.” Among these Second Amendment advocates, 77 percent support universal background checks, 60 percent support a testing, licensing and registering process for guns similar to that of automobiles, and 52 percent support an assault weapons ban.





Nearly 3 Out Of 4 Support Raising Legal Age To Buy Any Gun


Americans support 74 - 24 percent raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll of adults released today. Democrats (91 - 7 percent), independents (76 - 22 percent), and Republicans (59 - 39 percent) all support raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide.
Reaganite republican always trying to take peoples rights away.
You leftists sicken me.
 
Reaganite republican always trying to take peoples rights away.
You strike me as someone who would call the banning of child porn "the libs are trying to take my First Amendment rights away".


You leftists sicken me.
Nice try.

Let's see what one of the most right wing Supreme Court justices had to say in the Heller decision:

Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. - Antonin Scalia.
 
There seems to us no doubt, on the basis of both text and history, that the Second Amendment conferred an individual right to keep and bear arms. Of course the right was not unlimited, just as the First Amendment’s right of free speech was not - Antonin Scalia, majority opinion, District of Columbia v. Heller
 
Despite the finest lies from the right, the Democratic party is not defunct and Gavin Newsom will probably not be the presidential candidate. Democrats aren't going to vote for a candidate who continues trying to pander to the right. If Newsom ends up the nominee, we'll see another election where 86 million people won't vote.
He's too slimy.
 
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Despite the finest lies from the right, the Democratic party is not defunct and Gavin Newsom will probably not be the presidential candidate. Democrats aren't going to vote for a candidate who continues trying to pander to the right. If Newsom ends up the nominee, we'll see another election where 86 million people won't vote.
Democrats worrying about votes to determine their nominee? They didn't worry a whole lot about that last year.
 
A family member, not just parents.

One pair of parents has been held accountable and are in prison.

But I get your point.



That is a shocking number of school shootings.
It is in living memory that a student or teacher could leave a firearm in their car when they went to school, no school shootings.
It is in living memory that a student could take a shooting course in school with live ammunition, no school shootings.
It is in living memory that you could order a firearm and ammo, have it delivered to your house in the mail, and no school shootings.

What changed? Not guns.
 
Yes sir he was just misunderstood......

Here’s Gov. Newsom’s problem. We have the receipts. Heck, everyone has the receipts. The firearm industry hasn’t forgotten the time California Attorney General Rob Bonta – working for Gov. Newsom -“leaked” the personal information of every California concealed carry permit holder. Gov. Newsom’s self-professed affinity for the Second Amendment is about as hollow as former Vice President Kamala Harris’ attempt to side with gun owners by saying she own’s a GLOCK handgun.

Proposed 28​

Perhaps Gov. Newsom thinks no one remembers his failed publicity stunt to nullify the Second Amendment with a proposed 28th Amendment. In 2023,
It was funny watching him trying to convince the public he was a moderate and then the LA riots happened, where he showed his true dark blue colors. Those in the middle now know he's full of shit. The right already knew it and the left love shit anyway.
 
You strike me as someone who would call the banning of child porn "the libs are trying to take my First Amendment rights away".
You are a sick ****.
Nice try.

Let's see what one of the most right wing Supreme Court justices had to say in the Heller decision:

Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. - Antonin Scalia.
Who cares what he said? He just made that shit up.
Of course, you dont give a damn about that as long as you agree with it. Obviously.
******* leftist.
 

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