Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[Asclepias]

Marriage is considered a sacrament by Christians, and our government cannot penalize us for not participating in sacrilege..unless in our refusal we are causing actual,

Who told you it was synonymous? Having trouble finding a quote?

"Its a deflection because its a lie."

You did.

I dont see the word synonymous. Are you absolutely sure you know what synonymous means? You could be telling me the price of gas and be truthful but it would still be a deflection if we are not talking about the price of gas.

No, it's not a lie, and it's not a deflection. Though you are certainly trying to make it one.

I don't blame you. You aren't faring well, but then, you never do.

If its not a lie why cant you quote me saying that? Crack getting to you again?

I'm looking for the lynching thread.

Maybe I confused you with Closed Caption. I can't tell you boys apart.

The crack lifestyle tends to do that to you. I would suggest you leave it alone so you wont get confused so easily.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Such is the nature of Relativism... and it is dangerous to nothing short of the viability of the culture:

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and, as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both of those being critical to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because a soundly reasoned morality is essential to Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice.

And here's how it works and why it is that SUCH a dangerous expression of the Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle:

Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting the free exercise [of religion]; or abridging the freedom of speech...

How does the Relativism 'interpret' THAT?

Benton County Superior Court Judge Alex Ekstrom rejected arguments from the owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland that her actions were protected by her religious freedom. He said that while religious beliefs are protected by the First Amendment, actions based on those beliefs aren't necessarily. Courts have long held that lawmakers can prohibit discriminatory conduct, and the judge said florist Barronelle Stutzman broke the law when she refused to sell flowers for a same-sex wedding in 2013.

Joe. My. God. WASHINGTON Anti-Gay Florist Found Guilty In Public Accommodations Case

See how that works?

Oh, jeez...Keys has gotten away from the orderlies again!

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

(Proving once again, that the key to defeating a Leftist in debate, rest only upon two fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.)

 

[BULLDOG]

One, the founding fathers would have scoffed at the idea that any government could force slave owners to free slaves against their will. I know you couldn't care less about the framers, but I just thought I'd mention that fact.

Two, why oh why oh why would anyone not want to serve gay customers at a flower shop? Decent, respectful, tolerant people don't do that to others. That's just common courtesy and tolerance for the beliefs of others.

Sound familiar?

One, you know nothing about our history. Slavery was always contentious. John Adams (the second president) was always against it, as were many others.

Two, it's been talked about at length, including here. You are unaware on that score as well.

Three, what about other people's feelings? Just go someplace else, everyone will be happy.

Nope, I'm enjoying your meltdown. I think I'll watch for a while.

 

[BULLDOG]

lol another example of people being too stupid to understand that your business is your property and thus you are supposed to have the right to do with it as you please.

"wah, I had to go to another florist"

And I ask yet again . What kind of dumb ************ wants to FORCE a business to take their money? Yep, that's exactly right the kind that are selfish motherfuckers who want to force someone to do something they don't want to do.

It's a bigger issue than that. A business serving the public has to serve everybody. What if you stopped for gas, and they said their religion wouldn't let them sell gas to crazy teabaggers who lie and say they are ex military

Go to the next gas station

Shouldn't have to.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

One, the founding fathers would have scoffed at the idea that any government could force slave owners to free slaves against their will. I know you couldn't care less about the framers, but I just thought I'd mention that fact.

Two, why oh why oh why would anyone not want to serve gay customers at a flower shop? Decent, respectful, tolerant people don't do that to others. That's just common courtesy and tolerance for the beliefs of others.

Sound familiar?

One, you know nothing about our history. Slavery was always contentious. John Adams (the second president) was always against it, as were many others.

Two, it's been talked about at length, including here. You are unaware on that score as well.

Three, what about other people's feelings? Just go someplace else, everyone will be happy.

Nope, I'm enjoying your meltdown. I think I'll watch for a while.

OH! Is 'Meltdown' the new code word for 'kicking the intellectual hell out of the Left'?

ROFLMNAO!

Now how precious is THAT?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

(Proving once again, that the key to defeating a Leftist in debate, rest only upon two fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.)

I'm not a "leftist" and you are hallucinating. Watch out, bub, the orderlies are getting close with those butterfly nets!

 

[Flash]

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Now that's ironic.....since you cannot even stand up for your faith in the face of illegal discrimination.

Discrimination should never be illegal. It should be a personal moral and intellectual choice.

Are you so dumb and morally deficient that you are incapable of deciding who you want to associate with and want the government to the make the decision for you? What is wrong with you? Did you vote for Obama? That may answer the question of your lack of intelligence and moral clarity.

 

[BULLDOG]

It's a bigger issue than that. A business serving the public has to serve everybody. What if you stopped for gas, and they said their religion wouldn't let them sell gas to crazy teabaggers who lie and say they are ex military

Wrong. Businesses can and do refuse service to people all the time. 28+ years, been there done that. Only there are state laws that protect classes so you either serve them or you refuse them for some other reason. Open to the public doesn't mean publicly owned.

But she didn't refuse for another reason. She refused to serve someone specifically because they were gay. That's a protected class, and serving them would be the decent thing to do anyway.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I'm not a "leftist" ... . !

ROFLMNAO!

Reader, it won't be long now before it will be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find a 'person' willing to admit they've EVER advocated for a 'mixed-economy'... or that Woman with Infants and Children NEED monies confiscated from those who produced it, to offset their limitations, which of course is balanced by their tender understanding that women NEED the right to murder their pre-born children.

Looks like the rats are already fleeing the sinking ship of Leftist State... but it won't help'em. They've registered to vote and forums like this are LOADED with e-mails connected to their ISP accounts.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The bigots want STRAIGHTS ONLY bakeries and florists and lunch counters.

They will need a sign like this one:

Comrade Jake, how would these bakeries and florists even know a customer was gay - unless the customer announces it?

Behavior <> skin color - even if your filthy party tries to make it so,

If it's homo men look for a lisp, limp wrist, sashaying and the use of the word fabulous. Women: look for lots of flannel, hairy lips and backs and men's haircuts

Does it HURT to be this stupid?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

(Proving once again, that the key to defeating a Leftist in debate, rest only upon two fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.)

I'm not a "leftist" ... . !

ROFLMNAO!

Reader, it won't be long now before it will be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find a 'person' willing to admit they've EVER advocated for a 'mixed-economy'...

Nope, never said that.

...or that Woman with Infants and Children NEED monies confiscated from those who produced it, to offset their limitations, which of course is balanced by their tender understanding that women NEED the right to murder their pre-born children.

Nope, never said that.

Looks like the rats are already fleeing the sinking ship of Leftist State... but it won't help'em. They've registered to vote and forums like this are LOADED with e-mails connected to their ISP accounts.

I'm sorry...you seem to be hallucinating again. Dude, only you can hear those voices in your head!

 

[BULLDOG]

One, the founding fathers would have scoffed at the idea that any government could force slave owners to free slaves against their will. I know you couldn't care less about the framers, but I just thought I'd mention that fact.

Two, why oh why oh why would anyone not want to serve gay customers at a flower shop? Decent, respectful, tolerant people don't do that to others. That's just common courtesy and tolerance for the beliefs of others.

Sound familiar?

One, you know nothing about our history. Slavery was always contentious. John Adams (the second president) was always against it, as were many others.

Two, it's been talked about at length, including here. You are unaware on that score as well.

Three, what about other people's feelings? Just go someplace else, everyone will be happy.

Nope, I'm enjoying your meltdown. I think I'll watch for a while.

OH! Is the new code word for 'kicking the intellectual hell out of the Left'... 'Meltdown'?

ROFLMNAO!

Now how precious is THAT?

As you well know, I don't directly interact with people as crazy as you very often, but I will this time. I don't see much ass kicking coming from your side, but I'm hoping to get an answer from iceweasel about that puckered anus.

 

[koshergrl]

Marriage is considered a sacrament by Christians, and our government cannot penalize us for not participating in sacrilege..unless in our refusal we are causing actual,
"Its a deflection because its a lie."

You did.

I dont see the word synonymous. Are you absolutely sure you know what synonymous means? You could be telling me the price of gas and be truthful but it would still be a deflection if we are not talking about the price of gas.

No, it's not a lie, and it's not a deflection. Though you are certainly trying to make it one.

I don't blame you. You aren't faring well, but then, you never do.

If its not a lie why cant you quote me saying that? Crack getting to you again?

I'm looking for the lynching thread.

Maybe I confused you with Closed Caption. I can't tell you boys apart.

The crack lifestyle tends to do that to you. I would suggest you leave it alone.

Marriage is considered a sacrament by Christians, and our government cannot penalize us for not participating in sacrilege..unless in our refusal we are causing actual,
"Its a deflection because its a lie."

You did.

I dont see the word synonymous. Are you absolutely sure you know what synonymous means? You could be telling me the price of gas and be truthful but it would still be a deflection if we are not talking about the price of gas.

No, it's not a lie, and it's not a deflection. Though you are certainly trying to make it one.

I don't blame you. You aren't faring well, but then, you never do.

If its not a lie why cant you quote me saying that? Crack getting to you again?

I'm looking for the lynching thread.

Maybe I confused you with Closed Caption. I can't tell you boys apart.

The crack lifestyle tends to do that to you. I would suggest you leave it alone so you wont get confused so easily.

Ahhh..you both stated that Republican Christians should be considered a menace to black people because they're white.

No wonder I can't tell you apart.

Lynching in America Confronting the Legacy of Racial Terror Page 39 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It's a bigger issue than that. A business serving the public has to serve everybody. What if you stopped for gas, and they said their religion wouldn't let them sell gas to crazy teabaggers who lie and say they are ex military

Wrong. Businesses can and do refuse service to people all the time. 28+ years, been there done that. Only there are state laws that protect classes so you either serve them or you refuse them for some other reason. Open to the public doesn't mean publicly owned.

But she didn't refuse for another reason. She refused to serve someone specifically because they were gay...

Yep... As such promotes the Normalization of Sexual Abnormality which undermines the viability of her culture. Therefore her CHOICE was prudent and shows that she is a discriminating individual... who understands evil, how it works and through which it is served.

 

[Flash]

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But she didn't refuse for another reason. She refused to serve someone specifically because they were gay. That's a protected class, and serving them would be the decent thing to do anyway.

The decent thing to do is not have the filthy ass government dictating who you have to do with business with. It is despicable to have the government tell you who have to associate with.

Not only is the decent thing for the government to stay out of the business of telling individuals who they have to associate with but also the moral and freedom thing.

It is just as bad for the US government to demand that you do business with someone that you don't want to as it was for the Nazi government to prohibit you from doing business with groups they didn't like. It is the same oppressive type of government.

The government needs to stay out of it.

 

[BULLDOG]

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But she didn't refuse for another reason. She refused to serve someone specifically because they were gay. That's a protected class, and serving them would be the decent thing to do anyway.

The decent thing to do is not have the filthy ass government dictating who you have to do with business with. It is despicable to have the government tell you who have to associate with.

Not only is the decent thing for the government to stay out of the business of telling individuals who they have to associate with but also the moral and freedom thing.

It is just as bad for the US government to demand that you do business with someone that you don't want to as it was for the Nazi government to prohibit you from doing business with groups they didn't like. It is the same oppressive type of government.

The government needs to stay out of it.

Then get the law changed dumbass. For now, that's the way it is, and all your whining is nothing more than great entertainment.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Does it HURT to be this stupid?

Well, you are the only one that can answer that... but I can tell you, it hurts to watch you being that stupid.

I hope that helps in some small way.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

(Proving once again, that the key to defeating a Leftist in debate, rest only upon two fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.)

I'm not a "leftist" ... . !

ROFLMNAO!

Reader, it won't be long now before it will be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find a 'person' willing to admit they've EVER advocated for a 'mixed-economy'...

Nope, never said that.

...or that Woman with Infants and Children NEED monies confiscated from those who produced it, to offset their limitations, which of course is balanced by their tender understanding that women NEED the right to murder their pre-born children.

Nope, never said that.

Looks like the rats are already fleeing the sinking ship of Leftist State... but it won't help'em. They've registered to vote and forums like this are LOADED with e-mails connected to their ISP accounts.

I'm sorry...you seem to be hallucinating again. Dude, only you can hear those voices in your head!

ROFLMNAO!

Of course you have. But at the end of the day, the denial of a Leftist has no value, as left-think rests entirely upon Relativism and a relativist has no means to even understand what honor is, let alone demonstrate such.

Whatever you say Karl.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

[


But she didn't refuse for another reason. She refused to serve someone specifically because they were gay. That's a protected class, and serving them would be the decent thing to do anyway.

The decent thing to do is not have the filthy ass government dictating who you have to do with business with. It is despicable to have the government tell you who have to associate with.

Not only is the decent thing for the government to stay out of the business of telling individuals who they have to associate with but also the moral and freedom thing.

It is just as bad for the US government to demand that you do business with someone that you don't want to as it was for the Nazi government to prohibit you from doing business with groups they didn't like. It is the same oppressive type of government.

The government needs to stay out of it.

This government is telling banks who they can do business with... even as we speak, the obama cult is requiring backs to cut off LONG STANDING credit accounts to US Gun Manufacturers and Retailers.

This in the heals of the obama cult abusing the power of the Executive branch to refuse to allow corporate filings for Americans who used words like "Patriot" and "Constitution" and "American" in their desired corporate name.

All PROFOUND violations of the US Constitution and here we find the "non-Leftists" here promoting the interests of their wedge cult: The Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality.

 

[Flash]

Then get the law changed dumbass. For now, that's the way it is, and all your whining is nothing more than great entertainment.

I demand that we stop voting for stupid Liberals that pass oppressive laws but you dumbass Libtrads won't listen. You embrace the oppressive laws.

You pass laws that kill children on demand, take the freedom of association away from Americans and tax the shit out of Americans and give the money to the welfare queens that elect the Liberals. You are the scum of America.